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Vista SP1

  • 27-04-2008 1:26pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭


    Anyone installed it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Yep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭masterwriter


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Yep.
    is it working OK for you? I am a bit wary some say it causes trouble


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    No complaints here

    If you search the windows forum you should find a good few threads on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    is it working OK for you? I am a bit wary some say it causes trouble
    The beta caused me problems alright and i've read od problems unless your drivers are up to date. About to install the full version shortly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Installed it yesterday, copying and pasting no longer takes an enternity, and performance is a bit better

    It screwed up my msn and other apps though :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Installed it from a clean install an hour ago. So far it's sexual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭shockwave


    Anyone know when its going to show up on windows update?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭-annex-


    shockwave wrote: »
    Anyone know when its going to show up on windows update?

    It came up on mine about a month ago, although I know it hasn't shown up for a lot of people. Microsoft have an article on it that might help explain: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭masterwriter


    shockwave wrote: »
    Anyone know when its going to show up on windows update?
    It showed up for me after I solved the problem at http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055282585


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Its been working fine for me well over a month now (64 bit). Network file transfer speeds have improved a lot over the RTM version.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Shows in Windows Update for me too.


    -

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    Workin A1 here too, Vista 64bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,383 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Has anyone noticed any major differences? Or any at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭god's toy


    1 more for all things good with SP1 on Vista 64


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 slayerdiabolus


    It recovers from Sleep a lot faster. The load time between entering your password and having the pc fully booted is reduced. They're the 2 major things I notice most


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    dulpit wrote: »
    Has anyone noticed any major differences? Or any at all?
    Not noticed anything yet. I was fairly happy before SP1 though. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ru


    It now utilises 4GB RAM if installed, pre SP1, it could only use and show 3GB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,165 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Ru wrote: »
    It now utilises 4GB RAM if installed, pre SP1, it could only use and show 3GB

    SP1 does not utilise any more RAM than before, it just reports what is installed in the machine, it still has the same 3/3.5GB limit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ru


    astrofool wrote: »
    SP1 does not utilise any more RAM than before, it just reports what is installed in the machine, it still has the same 3/3.5GB limit.

    CHEEKY GITS!!!!!!!!!

    I just checked BIOS and it states 3GB installed!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Ru wrote: »
    CHEEKY GITS!!!!!!!!!
    not really
    back in the days of DOS this was normal
    you couldn't use all of the 1MB of RAM in your machine , because other stuff was using it.
    There were tricks to remap memory like the High Memory Area and it is was done on Windows server too

    microsoft would rather sell 64bit OS's than keep 32 bit OS's alive


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,165 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Ru wrote: »
    CHEEKY GITS!!!!!!!!!

    I just checked BIOS and it states 3GB installed!

    Ths bios also states the actual amount of memory you have. You cannot have more memory reported in Windows than in the bios (although there was the memory hole setting for OS/2 that played havoc with installed RAM reporting, but lets not go these).


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wonder if this change would also affect PCs and laptops with shared video memory? That is, would it show 1GB of RAM rather than 992MB for example?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,383 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Not noticed anything yet. I was fairly happy before SP1 though. :)

    Oh me too, it works brilliant, but i just haven't noticed any difference between Vista pre and post SP1..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Soundman


    Still can't install it. It is now showing on Windows Update but it keeps saying "Can't install update. Reverting changes"

    Grrrrrrrr....

    Think it might have something to do with my trying to install the standalone version when it wasn't ready. I think it borked my MBR, also it is saying that some of my system files are corrupt. Going to have to do a back up and reinstall, then re-update everything including drivers.

    Grrrrrrrr again....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Soundman


    While I think of it....

    Is there any QUICK way of backing up just the system settings? I don't need files backed up as I periodically do that anyway. I would just like a way to do a fresh install then load back up the settings so I don't have to re-tweak and reset the OS back to the way I had it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Soundman


    Soundman wrote: »
    While I think of it....

    Is there any QUICK way of backing up just the system settings? I don't need files backed up as I periodically do that anyway. I would just like a way to do a fresh install then load back up the settings so I don't have to re-tweak and reset the OS back to the way I had it.

    Anyone any suggestions?

    I found a program called BackRex Expert Backup, but I am not sure if it is going to do what I need it to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭wayne040576


    I installed SP1 a few weeks back. I have an Nvidia Nforce sata controller on my board. SP1 installed a dodgy driver version resulting in constant blue screens due to the driver crashing. I fixed it by manually installing a different version. See here:

    http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=63287&st=0

    I'm also still having the odd nvidia graphics driver crash when playing games. This doesn't kill the system outright but I get a black screen for a few seconds until the driver recovers\restarts.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I hate NVIDIA's SATA drivers for Vista. They detect the disks as SCSI disks and don't allow access to the SMART data. Seems they're actually RAID drivers. If RAID isn't in use I always change them to the generic IDE controller instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭god's toy


    Use 64 bit if you want to utilize all the RAM in your Computer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,165 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Karsini wrote: »
    I hate NVIDIA's SATA drivers for Vista. They detect the disks as SCSI disks and don't allow access to the SMART data. Seems they're actually RAID drivers. If RAID isn't in use I always change them to the generic IDE controller instead.

    Are you sure they're not configured as RAID in the bios?

    I have a few nVidia boards with Vista, and all show up correctly, along with SMART data. Which chipset? (nVidia make crap IDE devices anyway, and has lead me to stay away from them at all costs of late).


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    astrofool wrote: »
    Are you sure they're not configured as RAID in the bios?

    I have a few nVidia boards with Vista, and all show up correctly, along with SMART data. Which chipset? (nVidia make crap IDE devices anyway, and has lead me to stay away from them at all costs of late).

    Nope, RAID is off in the BIOS - I've tested it on two machines, one with a 650i and another with a 570 SLI. If I use the generic IDE driver the disk is detected as "ST3250820AS ATA Device" with SMART readable. If I use the XP MediaShield driver that works fine too but I don't know whether to trust it stability-wise. Yet if I use the default NVIDIA storage driver which comes with Vista or the MediaShield one in the nForce driver package it shows up as a "ST3 250820AS SCSI Disk Device" with SMART unreadable. One of the drivers offered by Windows Update actually put the SATA controllers in the SCSI category.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,165 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I have an Intel P35 board here, 3 hard drives attached, 2 in RAID. The standalone drive is SMART accessible. nVidia have really dropped the ball on their motherboards and their drivers imo.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    astrofool wrote: »
    I have an Intel P35 board here, 3 hard drives attached, 2 in RAID. The standalone drive is SMART accessible. nVidia have really dropped the ball on their motherboards and their drivers imo.
    I agree, as a result I've been looking at a P35 or P45 board for my own rig. I have the 650i board mentioned in my previous post, an Abit Fatal1ty FP-IN9 SLI, but the thing bugging me most about it is a buggy BIOS more than the chipset but the chipset does have some woes too.

    Anyway back on topic, I did a clean install of Vista Business SP1 last week. There's some very slight cosmetic changes to the installation procedure but nothing obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Soundman


    Finally got it working thanks to a long and arduous process.

    Back up important files.
    Reinstall Vista Business.
    Tweak it back to the way I like it.
    Update through Windows Update as far as I could go.
    Update every driver possible using a program called Driver Detective.
    Install a few programs.
    Notice that SP1 is now available.
    Do an official drive back-up image just in case.
    Install SP1 with fingers crossed.
    Shout Woo Hoo when it worked.

    Haven't noticed anything as of yet being differrent, but I haven't had a chance to mess about much.


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