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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Crowd surfing banners are allowed and are coming in the near future. Personally I've not seen any flags on poles in any premier league ground this season, thats not to say they don't exist but I've not seen them. On the way into the shed many times I've seen flags and horns etc.. being taken off people.

    The reason given by the FA has always been that its against crowd safety regulations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Club organised displays.:rolleyes:

    Yea not like most of the teams in the Eircom League

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    iregk wrote: »
    Crowd surfing banners are allowed and are coming in the near future. Personally I've not seen any flags on poles in any premier league ground this season, thats not to say they don't exist but I've not seen them. On the way into the shed many times I've seen flags and horns etc.. being taken off people.

    The reason given by the FA has always been that its against crowd safety regulations.


    Well going from experice on the KOP there has been large flags waved at the front for league games.

    I think the OP was trying to get at teams like Liverpool and Man Utd the fans make and pay for the flags that appear in and around the grounds on match days. Where as Chealsea as a club have done it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    I think the OP was trying to get at teams like Liverpool and Man Utd the fans make and pay for the flags that appear in and around the grounds on match days. Where as Chealsea as a club have done it.

    There are a couple reasons why I thought this was noteworthy. The main reason was actually not aimed at the fans, but at the club. Why do they feel this is necessary? Trying to emulate the big boys instead of forging their own identity. If I was a Chelsea fan, I would be embarassed by this fake, contrived display. Basically telling the fans that they are crap, here's a token to make you better, more like some of those "good" fans we see on tv.
    As far as I can see it is for the tv cameras, and reeks of a deep seeded insecurity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,714 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Like you're a Liverpool fan trying to get a rise out of Chelsea fans.

    What Chelsea fans? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,167 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Yea not like most of the teams in the Eircom League

    Displays in our league are organised and paid for by the fans, not by some club's PR guru desperate to please tv executives.

    And btw, Chelsea have some of the most passionate supporters around (by English standards anyway). I just suppose many of them aren't permitted inside football grounds any more or would rather the atmosphere in the pub than be surrounded by the clueless Johnny-come-latelys morons with their faces painted who believe Soccer AM is footballing heaven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Displays in our league are organised and paid for by the fans, not by some club's PR guru desperate to please tv executives.

    And btw, Chelsea have some of the most passionate supporters around (by English standards anyway). I just suppose many of them aren't permitted inside football grounds any more or would rather the atmosphere in the pub than be surrounded by the clueless Johnny-come-latelys morons with their faces painted who believe Soccer AM is footballing heaven.

    I was agreeing with GavinShels about Chelsea the club paying and organising the display where as over here its the fans who do it and i know as i am a Derry City fan

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Displays in our league are organised and paid for by the fans, not by some club's PR guru desperate to please tv executives.

    And btw, Chelsea have some of the most passionate supporters around (by English standards anyway). I just suppose many of them aren't permitted inside football grounds any more or would rather the atmosphere in the pub than be surrounded by the clueless Johnny-come-latelys morons with their faces painted who believe Soccer AM is footballing heaven.

    Some of the most passionate supporters around aren't allowed in?I think there is a name for those type of 'supporters'

    Or passionate supporters who go to the pub instead of the match out of choice!!!!!:D

    I often wondered why there were hundreds of empty seats at Chelsea matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,167 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I was agreeing with GavinShels about Chelsea the club paying and organising the display where as over here its the fans who do it and i know as i am a Derry City fan

    Sorry man, I thought you were being sarcastic!!! :o
    dobsdave wrote: »
    Some of the most passionate supporters around aren't allowed in?I think there is a name for those type of 'supporters'

    Or passionate supporters who go to the pub instead of the match out of choice!!!!!:D

    I often wondered why there were hundreds of empty seats at Chelsea matches.

    You don't have to be a hooligan to be banned from grounds in England. Simply be being deported by a foreign state while at a football match (or being in and around one) can you get you a banning order. Believe or not, not every England fan deported whilst abroad has been involved in trouble.

    The poor atmosphere/banning orders (fair and unfair)/scandalous ticket prices/no unreserved sections have all lead to hardcore fans assembling in pubs to watch games instaed of going. Believe me, it happens (in England).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Plastic flags sum up everything I despise about modern football., Having to hand out flags to the fans as they cant make their own. To get them make an atmosphear? If they cant figure that out by themselves then god help the world. Consumers the whole ****ing lot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    This thread has it all.

    The "Chelsea fans are boring" brigade
    Man U fan sniping at pool fans and forgetting last nights borefest in Barca.
    The lone EL fan taking a bitter swipe at the EPL.

    Every Soccer forum cliche rolled into one thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    I'm not making a swipe at the EPL, im merely saying it has turned into a consumer orientated wankfest. When you have to help fans create an atmosphear and this goes for any league so pull yer knickers back on something has gone horribly wrong somewhere.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    just like Phil Neville cant buy style, chelski cant buy atmosphere


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Hilarious stuff. I've all ready explained exactly how it started and it happens now and still people ignore it saying its the club in a desperate attempt to "buy" athmosphere.

    Also as a shed end regular I'd challenge anyone on this board to sit in the shed and tell me after 10mins never mind 90 that stamford bridge has no athmosphere. Also a lot of the CHH (the hardcore fans) were given lifetime bans by ken bates back in the mid 90's. The result of this is a lot of real blue bloods not being allowed into the ground. Some have been allowed back in the past season or two but most are still barred. There is talk of a campaign to allow them back but people are pretty much on the fence as to whether this is a good or bad thing. These guys used to own and run everything that happened in the shed end and in the bridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Talking of Chelsea and CHH, anyone ever read the book Steaming In.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭growler


    Plastic flags sum up everything I despise about modern football., Having to hand out flags to the fans as they cant make their own. To get them make an atmosphear? If they cant figure that out by themselves then god help the world. Consumers the whole ****ing lot.

    so getting free flags from a club you've just paid £45+ to see is worse that buying a hat / scarf / flag from some bloke outside the groud ?

    :confused:


    anyway the flags are pretty poor, always seems to come off the pole for me, maybe i haven't got the knack or am waving to much , anyway I now have a large collection of poleless flags gathering at home ready for a great big sewing job should i ever learn to sew.

    And

    Spurs fans got free flags at wembley also this year, bad spurs, plastic fans, fake atmosphere.. blah blah

    Tour Guides , WOW , imagine a club that has people come to take guided tours of the ground that actually has employees to guide them about, boggles the mind, when i went to old trafford (missus made me) they had guides there too, really pissed me off coz I fancied wandering around on my own for a few hours and repainting the goal lines for em, oh and they have guides at the cameldome, the san siro, nou camp, anfield ... weird eh ?


    And, I do kinda agree that its more a manufactured atmosphere , and while i personally don't agree with it and think it pretty naff, I don't see any harm in the club trying to get some interaction out the large number of attendees (not true cfc fans in my book) at the bridge that don't know our songs and haven't got the courage of the likes of Hicks and Son to mime along to our famous CFC anthems.

    btw CHH are all well past it these days, most couldn't run for a bus never mind take on the ICF :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    I just look forward to the day when it all comes caving in for all the clubs. When you have a situation where locals fans have a hard time affording match prices, having hassle to get the tickets due the amount being bought up by overseas things have gone wrong and this is not a patchetic Eircom Leaguers rant as most of you will think.

    I myself used to love supporting liverpool I knew no different I still keep a good eye on them but it hit home the last game I ever went to when at a stag party the same day as the Liverpool - Chelsea game in which Liverpool won 2-0. **** all scouse accents around me. twats there who couldnt sing YNWA even with printed words they would struggle. Band wagon jumping tossers the lot. And I thought to myself my being at this game means some local lad wont be. **** that.
    My experience that day reminded me how much I hated the way the game has gone. I would sooner be in a crumbling stadium somewhere surrounded by fans who would go through hell and know what it meant to be there. These tossers, twats, monkeys in jester hats. They follow a trend. The same people whom would have applauded leeds until their demise.

    Football does not need these peple IMO, ok there is the money aspect but why sell your soul to the devil? They will merely move on when the next big things happen and while their money will be missed by the big four clubs so what,

    Give football back to the fans. And whatever dark road that leads one down then it is a road worth following.


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