Lipotrim

Cilla557

Hey everyone.
VERY new to this! Have just started the lipotrim maintenance diet today! Trying to loose a little weight to get me motivated and kick started. Have 2 stone to loose! :eek:

g'em

Cilla there's a Search Function that you can use to see has your topic been spoken about before:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055263240&highlight=lipotrim
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055251194&highlight=lipotrim
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054901147&highlight=lipotrim
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055070944

As a word of warning though, Lipotrim and similar meal replacement diets aren't highly regarded here - we place an emphasis on healthy nutrition, education and excercise for weight loss.

Saruman

whatever about the maintenance diet, do NOT go on the full thing.

Cilla557

Have no intentions of going on the Total Food Replacement, love my food too much and i'm not morbidly obese! Just 11stone but i haven't been this weight since i was about to give birth. My son is 3 so i can't use that excuse anymore!! Was 9 1/2 stone before and after pregnancy but then my weight increased dramatically when i got the coil in... So here goes!

Trena543

Hi!!
Good luck with the diet! Im on it at the moment and its not bad.

FGR

Best of luck to those on this diet. That said, however; I'll take reduced/improved eating habits + running three times a week over the sacrifices needed to make Lipotrim work.

I commend you all on your will power, though. It's definately not easy.

rubadub

Lipotrim is extremely expensive. Compare it calorie wise to fillet steaks. €80 for about 3000kcal for the week. Fillet steaks have around 2000kcal per kilo, so 3000kcal of that would cost you a lot less. Cheaper to go to a restaurant everyday and eat a 450kcal starter!

If people find lipotrim "works" then they have the same problem most have, portion control. The packets are portioned out. The disgustingly deceitful faux-pharmaceutical marketing means people are probably less likely to eat more of the packets, treating it like medicine. There is NOTHING to stop them selling lipotrim in supermarkets, but that would do away with the "medically approved" illusion they create.

Since portion control is most people problems they would be far better off investing in a digital scales, and calculating calories for themselves, all the info is on the packets these days. -and of course exercising!

EileenG

If you are prepared to do something very restrictive like Lipotrim, why not do a Velocity diet or even some version of PSMF instead? Same principles, but better quality food. I managed to dig up the ingredients of Lipotrim sachets and bars, and they are processed crap. I couldn't believe how many of them contained sugar! On such a low cal diet, sugar is a pure waste.

mum6

can i ask what this is?i am thring to lose my tum,i look about 6 months pregnant and don`t want to lose weight anywhere else as 5.7ins and 10 .2lbs,i eat very healthily,drink my home made smoothies,tuns of veg,but after 6 children cant shift my tum,hate being asked am i pregnant,was thinking of having something done but scared of hospital procedures,is this something that would suit me?

EileenG

No, definitely not. Lipotrim is a meal replacement system for the obese. In theory, it is medically supervised, but I have my doubts about that. You buy little bars or sachets from a chemist, and they are all you eat. Eventually, you add in extra meals of real food. It's the sort of thing you do if you have five or six stone to lose and the alternative is surgery.

It's extremely low calorie. Most of the Lipotrim meals are less then 150 calories each. They are also pretty crappy quality. You could put together much better meals with whey and flaxseeds or other nuts.

Can you post your diet and your exercise routine? Maybe something will jump out at us. A lot of people think they are eating a very healthy diet, but don't realise they need more protein or healthy fats, and less bread and cereals. Smoothies can add a lot of calories without giving that much quality nutrition.

An exercise that a lot of bodybuilders do is called stomach vacuums. Sit or stand tall, then suck in all your stomach muscles as hard as possible. Try to stick your belly button to your spine. If you are doing it right, you'll only be able to take shallow breaths. Try to hold it for 20 seconds, working up to 40. Do this five times, and you will feel it! It's also great practice for sucking in your tummy when you want to look good.

rubadub

EileenG wrote: »

No, definitely not.

+1
Check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_calorie_diet

EileenG wrote: »

You buy little bars or sachets from a chemist, and they are all you eat.

They only allow a chemist to sell it so it has this medical feel to it, many presume it "must be good" since it is only in a chemist, like how people will use this logic to think over-the-counter (OTC) drugs will be stronger than ones in supermarkets. It is not flashy looking so seems less faddy than some diets, yet is far more dangerous than most faddy diets.

The Irish Medicines Board (IMB) investigated lipotrim, but they cannot do anything about it. This is since it is simply food! there is nothing magical about it, it is just small portions of food. It is not a OTC product, and certainly not approved by the IMB. Kelloggs could legally tell you to eat 1 bowl of cornflakes a day and the IMB could do nothing either.

Dudess

EileenG wrote: »

No, definitely not. Lipotrim is a meal replacement system for the obese. In theory, it is medically supervised, but I have my doubts about that. You buy little bars or sachets from a chemist, and they are all you eat. Eventually, you add in extra meals of real food. It's the sort of thing you do if you have five or six stone to lose and the alternative is surgery.

Jesus. And the chemist happily took my friend's money when she had about two and a half, three stone to lose. That's like something out of The Simpsons. It causes disgusting breath too. I'd rather have the flab hanging around a while longer (and thus, less likely to come creeping back) than for people to reach for the clothes pegs every time I open my mouth.

Dudess

Dudess wrote: »

Jesus. And the chemist happily took my friend's money when she had about two and a half, three stone to lose. That's like something out of The Simpsons. It causes disgusting breath too. I'd rather have the flab hanging around a while longer (and thus, less likely to come creeping back) than for people to reach for the clothes pegs every time I open my mouth.

A load of the girls at work did it to lose weight for their upcoming nuptuals.
Not one of them could be classified as overweight at all.

EileenG

I think it is highly significant that it's so easy to buy but so hard to get a list of ingredients of Lipotrim. As I mentioned, when I eventually managed to get a list, it was full of sugar and modified maize starch and general crap. It's not cheap either.

If you want to replace a couple of meals with something more diet friendly, there are lots of good things you can do with whey powder and flaxseeds or even cottage cheese and some flavouring. Hell, I make an ultra low cal chocolate icecream with egg whites.

Have you got a recipe for that Eileen?

EileenG

Beat a couple of egg whites until they are stiff and fluffy.

Make a smooth paste with some leftover coffee, a good teaspoon of cocoa powder and a little sweetener (as if you are were going to make a mug of cocoa), then fold it into the egg white until it is brown all over.

Divide into two or three containers (old yogurt pots maybe) and freeze. Take one out of the freezer a couple of minutes before you want to eat it, but it doesn't take long until you can dig your spoon in.

Tastes like a cross between chocolate icecream and chocolate mousse and only about 20 calories a serving.

2fat

hi everyone. Is this thread still active. Doesnt seem to be anyone on it since a few months ago. Im on Lipotrim and if anyone out there is on it and would like to chat about it please reply
Thanks lorr

rubadub

2fat wrote: »

Doesnt seem to be anyone on it since a few months ago.

They all died from malnutrition

There is a more active thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055070944

applemacman

Hi Everyone,

This is my first time using Boards. I want to start a diet and it's either going to be Lipotrim or Celebrity Slim. One of my friends used Lipotrim and he lost 3 stone and he looked very very drained after it. It's a month since he came off it, he said it has changed his life and the best thing he ever did. I am 5'7", late 30's and 19.5 stone. I need to loose weight, I just don't know which of the two diets are best to go with. I have read a huge number of posts from people who said how bad the diets are and to be honest, I tried the gym and it worked for a while, but you need tremendous will power to stick with it. I just want to try these for four or five months. I know this is an old request, but I would really appreciate some advice.

Thanks

rubadub

applemacman wrote: »

I want to start a diet and it's either going to be Lipotrim or Celebrity Slim... I just want to try these for four or five months.

I would recommend you read all of this thread
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=52968704

It is very long so will take a while, but if you are going to dedicate 4-5months to it then it is well worth reading it all the way through.

What did you do in the gym? I would highly recommend weights/resistance training for fat loss. Helped me hugely, have a look at www.simplefit.org for exercises with just bodyweight.

Serafijn

Applemac, would you not try something like Weight Watchers instead? It controls the amount you eat by giving all foods a points value, which you have a certain allowance of per day. It means you get to eat proper food instead of processed bars and shakes which has to be a good thing!

Have a look in the Food Diary section, there's a few people on it who are losing a good amount of weight.

castle

Lipotrim does indeed work and I found it was not as bad as people here suggested.The main thing is if you stick to the guidelines of lipotrim you will lose weight no question.My advice is to start to do some exercise when you start lipotrim this will get you ready for when you stop using lipotrim.If you had 3 stone to lose,on a normal diet with exercise it could take anything up to a year to do this,alot of people would have giving up well before they got anywhere near their weight loss goal.On lipotrim with exercise you could do this in less than 3 months easily,when you lose the weight you then need to eat really healthy and exercise at least 3 times a week.It is easy for people who have never had weight issues to preach about this and that but unless you where that person that was fat for what seem like forever then you dont know how it feels.I know many people who have done lipotrim and have kept their weight of and I also know people who have put it back on just like every other diet.Some people give outen we would all beabout lipotrim without any facts that it is unhealthly etc .It has worked for me I loss 3 stone over 3 years ago on lipotrim and I have managed to keep it off,this is I could not do on any other diet exercise programm before.I do eat more healthy and exercise every week,people will say but if you had done that all along then you would not be over weight,if only it was that easy.It has changed my life for the better so for that reason I suggest you do it but make sure you also change your eating habits.If it was easy to be healthy and slim then way we would all be that way.Remember to surround yourself with positive people and not negitive people who want you to fail.

rubadub

castle wrote: »

If you had 3 stone to lose,on a normal diet with exercise it could take anything up to a year to do this,alot of people would have giving up well before they got anywhere near their weight loss goal..

But they would have been following common doctors & nutirionalists advice of 1-2lb fat loss per week.

castle wrote: »

It is easy for people who have never had weight issues to preach about this and that but unless you where that person that was fat for what seem like forever then you dont know how it feels.

I think you will find the majority preaching/advising about it had done such fad diets in the past, and are warning others not to waste their time too, they have spent years on yo-yo diets before figuring out what is best.

Some people give outen we would all beabout lipotrim without any facts that it is unhealthly etc

Experts warn that no-food rapid weight-loss product is 'dangerous'

A NEW rapid weight-loss programme described by health experts as "dangerous" is being investigated by the Irish Medicines Board (IMB).
The IMB - which licenses medicines - is looking into the sale of Lipotrim, a UK-based product that is available in up to 100 pharmacies nationwide.

Lipotrim is the controversial weight-loss programme nicknamed the "no-food diet" as it replaces meals with nutrient-complete formula drinks.

After a few days, the body becomes accustomed to the regime and those on the programme no longer feel hungry.

Lipotrim does not require a prescription, but pharmacists who stock the product will only sell it to those with serious weight problems.

Nutritionists and eating disorder specialists have warned that the programme - on which slimmers can expect to lose a stone a month - is unhealthy.

Gerry Campion of the Marino Therapy Clinic for eating disorders said such "quick-fix" weight-loss products should be approached with caution.

"Any kind of dramatic weight-loss is dangerous," said Mr Campion. "The body cannot cope with such a huge change in diet.

"I would advise anyone contemplating using this product to be careful."

He said reported Lipotrim side-effects - such as hair-loss, headaches and feeling cold - are symptoms caused by depriving the body of the food it needs.

"These symptoms are caused by a lack of fuel and are usually experienced by those who are denying themselves food," he explained.

Dietician Aveen Bannon of the Dublin Nutrition Centre said she would never recommend this kind of diet to a patient.

She said the weight reportedly lost by those on Lipotrim is too much, too quickly.

"These kind of weight-loss programmes mess around with people's metabolism. The body becomes confused - one moment is is being starved, then the next it is being fed again.

"As soon as people return to normal eating the weight piles back on."

The IMB, will look into Lipotrim and assess if the product is making medical claims or has an active ingredient.

Products making medicinal claims or containing active ingredients must have a licence before they can be sold on the market.

"The IMB's will be handing the matter to its classification committee," said spokeswoman Siobhan Molloy.

However, Valerie Beeson, Lipotrim programme director, said she is confident the IMB will find no wrongdoing.

"Lipotrim is not a drug and has no active ingredient. It is completely above board.

"Only those people who have serious weight issues need to go on the full Lipotrim programme.

"Other people can mix the formulas with food."

From http://www.lipotrim.co.uk/

Lipotrim involves the use of nutrient-complete formula total food replacement products, developed in Britain by qualified nutritionists and experts in weight management

I wonder what qualifications they have. I am 5'11'' 12.5stone, the lipotrim site tells me

You are overweight, action is required. Consider using Lipotrim maintenance formulas.

Now I wonder how many qualified nutritionalists would put me on lipotrim. I am bang in the middle of the OK region on this chart http://www.ashwell.uk.com/shapechart.pdf

Remember to surround yourself with positive people and not negitive people who want you to fail.

I have never seen any people on here hoping people fail to lose weight...

Snuggle Bunny

A friend of mine was hospitalised last Christmas after using Lipotrim for 6 wks, her bowel and liver had abnormal function and the dr absolutely went nuts at her for following this 'diet'. If you are using Lipotrim make sure and take plenty of fibre drinks and vitamins, as my friend also started to lose her hair, which is another side effect.

amy12

Hi Guys!!

I'm new to this... Have decided to try the lipotrim diet and was wondering if anyone has any helpful hints? I know it will be very hard but I'm going to give it my all!! :rolleyes:

rubadub

amy12 wrote: »

Have decided to try the lipotrim diet and was wondering if anyone has any helpful hints?

I would read all of this thread, it is long but worth reading.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=52968704

It should not be you who "decides" to try it, it should be your doctor who prescribes it. It is certainly not something to be taken lightly, and no decent doctor would recommend it unless the immediate side effects/problems of your obesity outweigh the side effects of going on such a drastic diet.

amy12

Thanks Rubadub..
Have read the thread and think I may have to re-think this one!! Thanks!:D

aare

EileenG wrote: »

I think it is highly significant that it's so easy to buy but so hard to get a list of ingredients of Lipotrim. As I mentioned, when I eventually managed to get a list, it was full of sugar and modified maize starch and general crap. It's not cheap either.

If you want to replace a couple of meals with something more diet friendly, there are lots of good things you can do with whey powder and flaxseeds or even cottage cheese and some flavouring. Hell, I make an ultra low cal chocolate icecream with egg whites.

It's actually dead easy to get the ingredients (they are on the carrier bags), and, as you can see for yourself, from the attachment I have had permission to post on "fitness", there is no sugar, or modified maize starch at all.

If you are going to talk about the ingredients, lets talk about the real ingredients, not guess at them??

Lipotrim works by combining low carb with very low calorie diet (vlcd). That is about 430 calories per day for a woman...BUT, research shows that, when it comes to VLCD, there is no significant difference in weight loss between 400 and 800 calories, so you could have half a dozen eggs with that every day, or a big piece of meat, without losing any less weight. You could also have a fairly generous portion (or two) of asparagus, celery or spring cabbage...that have very few calories or carbs (there are other green vegetables like this, but CHECK first as they are not always the ones you expect).

Of course, when you are paying £63 per week for Lipotrim that gets a little pricey...also, though lipotrim is low carb, with 45 grams of carbs per day, total, it's not certain you will remain in ketosis (which is how your body converts fat to energy, so that you don't feel too tired ill or hungry while you diet, which makes it easier to stick with) if you add any more carbs at all (depends - some people might get away with it, others not).

I am personally sick to death of living on miserable diets while my weight creeps up anyway (I am carb intolerant, which predates lipotrim, and is, not only, the reason I suddenly got fat, but also the reason why I cannot lose weight any other way), so I have decided to find a miserable diet that lets me LOSE weight, use up my last 3 weeks supply of lipotrim and then explore other ways to get the same effect.

I came across this lady:
http://www.freewebs.com/pixiedietstore/

She seems to have a lot of experience of VLCDs like "lighter life", "Cambridge" and "Lipotrim" and the kind of open mind that observes, asks questions and learns, because the information on her site is real, down to earth, and includes every little trick I discovered from my own long term use of Lipotrim, as well as a few I didn't.

She is also charging half as much as Lipotrim (though, unfortunately, plus shipping for us), for products, some of which seem virtually identical, ingredient for ingredient, but with far more variety.

She has also obviously sat down and come up with a variety of plans that are more detailed and varied than celebrity slim, and, though she trusts you to make your own choices, she will not let you stay on the total food replacement plan for longer than 12 weeks without taking a month off (and even on total food replacement she recommends that you eat a portion of green vegetables every day).

The only "BMI calculator" links to one on a Brit Government site.

Now, for a lady, running a cottage industry, often through ebay, not pharmacies, and WITHOUT the excruciatingly embarassing TV advertising CS use, that is pretty darned impressive (I don't know her at all, I am just VERY impressed).

So I feel that if you want to consider something like Lipotrim, or celebrity slim, you will be a LOT better off going with Pixie and one of her diet plans.

As the only member of my family who wasn't always something of a nutritional expert, my metabolic problems have been a crash course in nutrition and diet, and I have come to the conclusion that, if you need to lose weight, you need to use the method that works best with you, your metabolism, personality and lifestyle.

Losing the weight is only about 25% of the battle, because when you have lost the weight, even losing it through "healthy diet and exercise" will not guarantee you keep it off that way.

If you lose weight fast, you are going to have a second, much longer, "refeeding" battle, stabilising your metabolism and establishing a healthier lifestyle. If you lose weight slowly, you STILL won't be able to go back to your old eating habits, ever again, if you want to keep it off.

Both are options, neither is painless or "lazy", or "lacking in willpower", there are no "perfect, one-size-fits-all" solutions to weight problems.

My metabolism crashed itself, as far as anyone can establish due to "an unfortunate series of physiological events". If that had not happened, and I could still count on actually losing weight by eating more healthily, I do not think that I, personally, would risk crashing my own metabolism with ketosis and VLCD...but you may feel differently.

The choice is yours...but however you choose to deal with your weight problems...good luck...

amy12

Thanks Aare!!
your message was vert informative.