Getting sick during gym

Size=everything

Hey

So I have decided to considerably up the intensity these past few days in the gym, pushing myself harder than ever before.

Only problem in the last two sessions I got sick and nearly got sick last night :eek:

Is there anyway to avoid getting sick i.e drinkin less water during my workout or something

i think it cud possibly be my diet as well sometimes i eat up to 3 steaks and lots of lean burgers throughout the day before my session but not sure

thanks

Colm_OReilly

What exactly were you doing when Pukie came to town?

Have you puked before during workouts?

What was your diet like the day of the Pukie incidents? Timing of gym after eating as well please?

Pen1987

it could be that youre doing an unhealthy amount of excercise, pushing your body to far and probably doing damage to your muscle not strengthening them because the fibres can rebuild. Muscles dont grow during the excercies they grow during the recovery process.

omb0wyn5ehpij9

Size=everything wrote: »

Hey

i think it cud possibly be my diet as well sometimes i eat up to 3 steaks and lots of lean burgers throughout the day before my session but not sure

And how long before you train do you eat? That is a huge amount of food to have before working out

Size=everything

Colm_OReilly wrote: »

What exactly were you doing when Pukie came to town?

Have you puked before during workouts?

What was your diet like the day of the Pukie incidents? Timing of gym after eating as well please?

Biceps, was completely pushing through the pain barrier nearly fainted on last set before the puking incident went real red, got bloodshot in my eyes just managed to get my last rep went to get some water and puked in the bin.

I puked a few times during endurance training for Rugby when we were doing heavy fitness but then again so did most people this is the first time I've gotten sick during weights though.

diet was
9am - 4 eggs
11am - Steak
1pm - Steak
3pm - Steak
5pm - 2 burgers
6.30pm - 50g Whey Protein
7.30pm - 2 burgers

gym at 8.15pm

Size=everything

BrynW wrote: »

And how long before you train do you eat? That is a huge amount of food to have before working out

45mins usually. And its a huge amount of food but am seeing fantastic results from it, dropping fat whilst gaining considerable amounts of muscle people have asked me if I'm on test boosters lol so can't complain.

omb0wyn5ehpij9

You aren't leaving enough time between eating and going to the gym, which means you're food is digested.

g'em

Size=everything wrote: »

diet was
9am - 4 eggs
11am - Steak
1pm - Steak
3pm - Steak
5pm - 2 burgers
6.30pm - 50g Whey Protein
7.30pm - 2 burgers

Do you eat any fruit? Any vegetables? Is this a typical days' diet?

Size=everything

pretty much after that it goes

9pm - 50g whey
10pm - Steak/ 2 burgers
11pm - Burger


I throw in some bananas here and there to help avoid cramping, take a few table spoons of olive oil at random intervals, take fish oils, drink LOTS of water, take multivitamins and amino acids and milk thistle

brianthebard

BrynW wrote: »

You aren't leaving enough time between eating and going to the gym, which means you're food is digested.

I don't think that's true, I've trained several times after eating a half hour beforehand without pucking. OP, perhaps you should up the rest periods, sometimes I feel sick at the end of a workout but I'd be there up to 80 mins. I think you pretty much answered your own question with your description of your training-being close to fainting isn't what I'd call ideal. 2c.

dave80

Biceps, was completely pushing through the pain barrier nearly fainted on last set before the puking incident went real red, got bloodshot in my eyes just managed to get my last rep went to get some water and puked in the bin.

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ive puked from squating before but no way you should be puking from bicep training, dont forget to breath while doing your reps, you get bloodshot eyes and red faced from not breathing during sets! this could be why your puking?

omb0wyn5ehpij9

brianthebard wrote: »

I don't think that's true, I've trained several times after eating a half hour beforehand without pucking. OP, perhaps you should up the rest periods, sometimes I feel sick at the end of a workout but I'd be there up to 80 mins. I think you pretty much answered your own question with your description of your training-being close to fainting isn't what I'd call ideal. 2c.

People digest foods at different rates. 2 burgers 45 mins before working out isn't going to help the op unless he digests foods quickly. Ive also been told by coaches in the past not to eat large amounts of meats 2 hours before playing a match

g'em

A diet that consists of nothing but protein and saturated fat is not good for you. You're an ideal candidate for malnourishment. A few bananas here and there and substituting fresh wholefoods with multivitamins isn't the same thing and it's entirely feasible that it is your diet and lack of nutrients that is causing you to be ill.

You have a good physique and a great training attitude but a diet like that will cause you long term ill-effects. There's a big difference between eating a little bit of crap and out-training it and not providing the vitamins, nutrients and minerals that your body needs to grow. You're young so while you may get away with it in the short-term, now is when you need wholefoods more than ever before.

Saabdub

Wow if I ate that much red meat during the day I'd puke too:eek:. I find if I exercise strenuously with a full (or nearly full) stomach I get indigestion or gastrointestinal reflux and that can bring up some food. I would eat a sandwhich 2 hrs before a workout and then get maybe 20-30gm of whey in 30 mins before, but that's it. Then I have my after-exercise shake (60gm simple carbs and 30gm whey) and 1-2 hrs after that (when I'm fairly hungry) have a good meal (chicken, some starch and veg). But then I don't work out any later than 6pm, so a late meal doesn't affect my sleep.

Saabdub

kevpants

Size=everything wrote: »

diet was
9am - 4 eggs
11am - Steak
1pm - Steak
3pm - Steak
5pm - 2 burgers
6.30pm - 50g Whey Protein
7.30pm - 2 burgers

gym at 8.15pm

All I can think about is how hard it must be for you to take a crap. No wonder the blood vessels in your eyes are bursting! Enjoy bowel cancer!

lindak

Enjoy bowel cancer!

:eek::eek::eek:

Size=everything

kevpants wrote: »

All I can think about is how hard it must be for you to take a crap. No wonder the blood vessels in your eyes are bursting! Enjoy bowel cancer!

sacrifices have to be made in order to excel at something. Right now with this diet I am seeing amazing gains. I'll have a pic up at the end of the week to show how I'm coming along but its certainly working.


G'em could you list some vegetables that have no carbs or do all vegies have carbs

tribulus

Green veg is the best bet. Fibrous carbs so you don't have to worry about any insulin spikes. Munch on it as much as you can, although the only one I can stomach is broccoli.

g'em

Size=everything wrote: »

sacrifices have to be made in order to excel at something. Right now with this diet I am seeing amazing gains. I'll have a pic up at the end of the week to show how I'm coming along but its certainly working.

Just don't make sacrifices so big that your health suffers. I'm not being alarmist here but a diet that's so devoid of fruit and veg is comparable to a diet that is composed of pizzas and take-aways in terms of vitamin content - vegetables in particular are jam packed with flavanoids, antioxidants, vitamins, minerals and fibre plus with the addition of nuts and seeds you'll tend to have a diet that's more evenly balanced between saturated and unsaturated fats.

Size=everything wrote:

G'em could you list some vegetables that have no carbs or do all vegies have carbs

Essentially all veg are carb-based, but as trib has said the green vegetables contain more fibre than carbs proportionally so you can happily eat as much broccoli as you can stomach without any fear of excess calories. Here's some reading material to explain more about the topic:
Bodybuilders and vegetables 1
Bodybuilders and vegetables 2
Bodybuilders and vegetables 3
Bodybuilders and vegetables 4

Saabdub

Size=everything wrote: »

sacrifices have to be made in order to excel at something. Right now with this diet I am seeing amazing gains. I'll have a pic up at the end of the week to show how I'm coming along but its certainly working.


G'em could you list some vegetables that have no carbs or do all vegies have carbs

No carbs? Are you in a building phase or trying to get cut?

If you included oats in your diet it might soak up some of the saturated fat from those steaks and keep it out of your bloodstream. I add a powdered/tastelese fibre to mine to slow down the digestion and keep me regular:D

t-ha

Size=everything wrote: »

diet was
9am - 4 eggs
11am - Steak
1pm - Steak
3pm - Steak
5pm - 2 burgers
6.30pm - 50g Whey Protein
7.30pm - 2 burgers
9pm - 50g whey
10pm - Steak/ 2 burgers
11pm - Burger

In general, eating the same thing all the time is never a good idea. Veggies have carbs but you'ld need to eat a tonne of them before you'ld get any appreciable amount of carbs out of them. They won't stop you from dropping bodyfat or being in ketosis, and may just help you avoid constipation. I don't even consider how many of them I eat when trying to lose fat.

Edit: Hopefully you're aware that this diet will probably make your blood pressure go up & you shouldn't do it for very long. When I did something similar I ate organ meats too for the inflammatory acids and the whole thing worked great in terms of adding muscle and losing fat. Unfortunately I had a blood pressure of 140/100 (that's bad btw) after a couple of months and decided never to do that again.

Insanesomeone

Blood vessles breaking are common enough in lifting meets, where the lifters are exerting themselves to their max and beyond. Popping a few vessles while curling would have me thinking your not breathing correctly. Adopt this as a thumb rule: exhale during the more strenuous part of the exercise, inhale during the less strenuous.
As regards getting sick, it's happened to me on a few occasions while doing HITT or heavy squat days, my advice is less water before you lift ( though don't set yourself up for dehydration) and leave a little gap between your work out and your pre-work out meal.

Money Shot

Not sure why you are taking the whey. You are supplementing a diet consisting almost entirely of protein with protein shakes.

What you are basically doing is the Atkins diet - and that's not something your body will tolerate for long. You need to ask yourself if looking 'Buff' is more important than your long term, and possibly short term health. Besides, it's not like you can't achieve what you want with a more sensible diet - it might just take longer.

I'd imagine working out will begin to more difficult too when you're energy levels dipp and you start getting headaches.

Size=everything

Saabdub wrote: »

No carbs? Are you in a building phase or trying to get cut?

If you included oats in your diet it might soak up some of the saturated fat from those steaks and keep it out of your bloodstream. I add a powdered/tastelese fibre to mine to slow down the digestion and keep me regular:D

Cutting whilst adding muscle, i know people say its impossible to do that but for me anyway its working so basically no carbs though I have begun to have 26g of carbs before a workout, so basically my carb intake daily is 26g now.

Once every week I have a high carb meal.

Size=everything

t-ha wrote: »

In general, eating the same thing all the time is never a good idea. Veggies have carbs but you'ld need to eat a tonne of them before you'ld get any appreciable amount of carbs out of them. They won't stop you from dropping bodyfat or being in ketosis, and may just help you avoid constipation. I don't even consider how many of them I eat when trying to lose fat.

Edit: Hopefully you're aware that this diet will probably make your blood pressure go up & you shouldn't do it for very long. When I did something similar I ate organ meats too for the inflammatory acids and the whole thing worked great in terms of adding muscle and losing fat. Unfortunately I had a blood pressure of 140/100 (that's bad btw) after a couple of months and decided never to do that again.

I'm gona start trying to eat some vegies


Also my understanding is that the resulting loss of fat will result in actually lower blood pressure and cholestral levels despite the high intakes of fats.

I have started taking hawthorne berry as well however

g'em

Are you by any chance a fan of Dave Palumbo?

Size=everything

Insanesomeone wrote: »

Blood vessles breaking are common enough in lifting meets, where the lifters are exerting themselves to their max and beyond. Popping a few vessles while curling would have me thinking your not breathing correctly. Adopt this as a thumb rule: exhale during the more strenuous part of the exercise, inhale during the less strenuous.
As regards getting sick, it's happened to me on a few occasions while doing HITT or heavy squat days, my advice is less water before you lift ( though don't set yourself up for dehydration) and leave a little gap between your work out and your pre-work out meal.

Hey man, No I breathe fine during exercises I know all about that I think I just pushed myself too hard. I go a little crazy on the weights I just keep going until I physically cant hold on anymore.

Size=everything

g'em wrote: »

Are you by any chance a fan of Dave Palumbo?

I certainly am

Size=everything

Money Shot wrote: »

Not sure why you are taking the whey. You are supplementing a diet consisting almost entirely of protein with protein shakes.

What you are basically doing is the Atkins diet - and that's not something your body will tolerate for long. You need to ask yourself if looking 'Buff' is more important than your long term, and possibly short term health. Besides, it's not like you can't achieve what you want with a more sensible diet - it might just take longer.

I'd imagine working out will begin to more difficult too when you're energy levels dipp and you start getting headaches.

Just because its easier and it contains lots of amino acids.

Also it is not the atkins diet, theres carb up refuels and theres much more fat than protein its more the keto diet or Anabolic Diet



Also my energy levels haven't dipped at all after the first week if anything I find I have more energy

g'em

Size=everything wrote: »

I certainly am

Thought as much

The keto will work, that's a certainty, but you may need to accept that it's not a long-term strategy. Enjoy the benefits of it for now, but don't neglect your body's nutrient needs - fibre, fibre and more fibre. The carb content of two cups of vegetables four times a day will have negligible effects on your diet, but maximum effect on your health. Fibre is an undigestible carb so essentially you can subtract the fibre content from the whole carb content of a vegetable. Green vegetables tend to be most fibrous (and therefore least carb) so eat, eat, eat.

Size=everything

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Just some more progress, I blacked out the back round so people wont know what gym I'm in.

Taken yesterday after a back workout so unfortunately no pump I'll try get a fully pumped one up next week

Size=everything

g'em wrote: »

Thought as much

The keto will work, that's a certainty, but you may need to accept that it's not a long-term strategy. Enjoy the benefits of it for now, but don't neglect your body's nutrient needs - fibre, fibre and more fibre. The carb content of two cups of vegetables four times a day will have negligible effects on your diet, but maximum effect on your health. Fibre is an undigestible carb so essentially you can subtract the fibre content from the whole carb content of a vegetable. Green vegetables tend to be most fibrous (and therefore least carb) so eat, eat, eat.

O.K I think I'll I am going to incoperate some veggies in with my eggs every morning and with my pre workout meal

Saabdub

Size=everything wrote: »

Cutting whilst adding muscle, i know people say its impossible to do that but for me anyway its working so basically no carbs though I have begun to have 26g of carbs before a workout, so basically my carb intake daily is 26g now.

Once every week I have a high carb meal.

<26g a day:eek: How long have you kept that up for? I never managed to cut below 100g. My wife would make toast and the smell would drive me insane:pac: And I was soooo narky and low on energy.

Saabdub

Roper

Size=everything wrote: »

some progress.JPG


Just some more progress, I blacked out the back round so people wont know what gym I'm in.

Taken yesterday after a back workout so unfortunately no pump I'll try get a fully pumped one up next week

That's great progress all right, and well worth your long-term health

In all seriousness, the results you're seeing are the result of your high protein intake, and adding vegetables will not adversely affect that.

Pen1987

Are you by any chance named Ger?

Dave Palumbo is a hero. I look like him, 'cept bigger. (ie I look like a muscley homeless man most of the time)

you must be getting carbs from somewhere other than your 26g, thats not healthy man...

Cookpasbabtridg

Hi,

size=everything what kind of stuff are you doing for your arms? Youre in great shape alright.

Im in the gym 4 days a week at the moment and noticing good results but I have not been very strict on my diet, so I'm not getting the most returns for the work Im putting in. Its a combination of lack of organisation, laziness about preparing food and a busy work day.

I really need to get a diet plan in place and stick to it. I thought about getting a personal trainer to sit down and go through one but tbh I havent gone to one so far and would like to keep it that way.

Im allergic to eggs but, that aside, I will eat anything.

Im 28, 6'1 in height, 15 stone and I reckon i need to lose a stone in fat whilst keeping up the training.

any advice would be great.

Roper

Cookpasbabtridg wrote: »

Hi,

size=everything what kind of stuff are you doing for your arms? Youre in great shape alright.

Im in the gym 4 days a week at the moment and noticing good results but I have not been very strict on my diet, so I'm not getting the most returns for the work Im putting in. Its a combination of lack of organisation, laziness about preparing food and a busy work day.

I really need to get a diet plan in place and stick to it. I thought about getting a personal trainer to sit down and go through one but tbh I havent gone to one so far and would like to keep it that way.

Im allergic to eggs but, that aside, I will eat anything.

Im 28, 6'1 in height, 15 stone and I reckon i need to lose a stone in fat whilst keeping up the training.

any advice would be great.

Firstly, Michael did a great job disguising your username

Secondly, I thin you've answered all your own questions really. Clean up the diet and if you're already doing the work you should see results.

Phaetonman

How much do you spend a day on all that food?

My biggest issue with eating lots is the cost. That and the lack of taste.

Saabdub

Phaetonman wrote: »

How much do you spend a day on all that food?

My biggest issue with eating lots is the cost. That and the lack of taste.

Yes, think of the CO2 footprint, probably the same as an entire African viilage;):D

Saabdub

Size=everything

Pen1987 wrote: »

Are you by any chance named Ger?

Dave Palumbo is a hero. I look like him, 'cept bigger. (ie I look like a muscley homeless man most of the time)

you must be getting carbs from somewhere other than your 26g, thats not healthy man...

Hey,

To answer your first question no I'm not Ger.

In regards to carbs before recently I was on 0g carbs I decided to add 26g of carbs in my pre workout meal as I learned that the carbs would instantly be burned during the workout and thus would not effect my keto.

I have one high carb meal once a week though just to spike my insulin

Size=everything

Cookpasbabtridg wrote: »

Hi,

size=everything what kind of stuff are you doing for your arms? Youre in great shape alright.

Right now this is what I am doing,

Biceps

3 sets of Bicep curls close grip
3 sets of Biceps curls wide grip
3 sets of seated dumbell curls
3 sets of chin ups
2 sets of 21s

If my biceps still dont feel worked i'll throw in some more curls until I can't move my arms

Triceps
4 sets of nosebreakers
4 sets of weighted dips
3 sets of pull downs with bar
3 sets of pull downs with rope
3 sets of close grip bench press
3 sets of kick backs

If my triceps dont feel worked I do dips until I struggle to get even one

Im in the gym 4 days a week at the moment and noticing good results but I have not been very strict on my diet, so I'm not getting the most returns for the work Im putting in. Its a combination of lack of organisation, laziness about preparing food and a busy work day.

Listen diet is everything. You can work tirelessly in the gym but unless your diet is right you wont see the results you deserve. Its not hard to prepare when you get home... Buy some cans of tuna, you dont even have to prepare anything just crack them open and dig in. Protein Shakes, simple enough. Baked Ham, just buy a pack and carry it with you, protein and fat for the day. Nuts etc. I could go on the point is you dont have to be slaving away cooking big chicken dishes to be getting good sources of proteins.

I really need to get a diet plan in place and stick to it. I thought about getting a personal trainer to sit down and go through one but tbh I havent gone to one so far and would like to keep it that way.

I recommend looking up the keto diet. But if thats not for you then just try lower the amount of carbs and calorie intake and cut out sugars completely, increase protein and fats you should see results.

Im 28, 6'1 in height, 15 stone and I reckon i need to lose a stone in fat whilst keeping up the training.

any advice would be great.

It can easily be done, but you must sort out your diet

Size=everything

Phaetonman wrote: »

How much do you spend a day on all that food?

My biggest issue with eating lots is the cost. That and the lack of taste.

I get a massive slab of meat for 10euro that usually amounts to 4 steaks worth. Then I can get 6 burgers for 3euro so its really not that expensive. roughly 90euro a week which is cheaper than what my brother spends on food with his lucozades, deli rolls, MnS Dinner dishes etc. so you might find you actually SAVE money


As for taste I grate cheese onto the burgers and cover the steaks in butter personally I think its delicious.

I dont eat the following because I dont like how the sodium makes you bloat but on my diet if I wanted to I could also eat stuff like sausages and bacon its really not that bad at all

Mickk

Size=everything wrote: »

I get a massive slab of meat for 10euro that usually amounts to 4 steaks worth. Then I can get 6 burgers for 3euro so its really not that expensive. roughly 90euro a week which is cheaper than what my brother spends on food with his lucozades, deli rolls, MnS Dinner dishes etc. so you might find you actually SAVE money


As for taste I grate cheese onto the burgers and cover the steaks in butter personally I think its delicious.

I dont eat the following because I dont like how the sodium makes you bloat but on my diet if I wanted to I could also eat stuff like sausages and bacon its really not that bad at all

Minced meats are generally muck, they cut out all the cuts of meat and whatever is left, (as a mate of mine described it lips and bumholes) get minced up and sold as burgers and sausages, I would avoid and go for real cuts of meat. I used to do what you do with meat only diet and I did gain ****loads of mass but it was quite low quality gains, then again I was eating 2lbs of steak and 2 litres of full fat milk right before bed every night...

itsallaboutheL

Off topic question but still relevant.............
You mentioned at some stage that you aim to play 20s rugby next year.... im going to guess as an openside, maybe a small hooker (its possible a massive hooker hard to judge height etc from pic) is this still your goal?

i've some observations to make if you still are going to play 20s.........i.e eat a carb or 300, have a beer and relax!

Size=everything

Mickk wrote: »

Minced meats are generally muck, they cut out all the cuts of meat and whatever is left, (as a mate of mine described it lips and bumholes) get minced up and sold as burgers and sausages, I would avoid and go for real cuts of meat. I used to do what you do with meat only diet and I did gain ****loads of mass but it was quite low quality gains, then again I was eating 2lbs of steak and 2 litres of full fat milk right before bed every night...

Yeah I was thinking of lessening the amount of burgers and throwing in another steak or two in there.

Man don't talk to me about milk, I love milk but right now cant drink it because of all the sugars in it. Anyways tomorrow I get a meal where I can eat anything I want, Cant wait

Size=everything

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Off topic question but still relevant.............
You mentioned at some stage that you aim to play 20s rugby next year.... im going to guess as an openside, maybe a small hooker (its possible a massive hooker hard to judge height etc from pic) is this still your goal?

i've some observations to make if you still are going to play 20s.........i.e eat a carb or 300, have a beer and relax!

I've played prop but I am thinking of going for open side, I'm 6'1 by the way. However if I get my body to where I want it to be I may try compete in either bodybuilding or powerlifting but only time will tell if I have the genetics.

And yeah I'll be eating lots of carbs again if I start playing 20s so my performance wont be affected.

As for beer its so hard not drinking right now....parties and big nights all over the place whilst I stay at home sober making sure I don't miss my meals its tough but I am sure it will pay off.

itsallaboutheL

prop to openside haha operation tranformation............ have a craic at hooker all the fun of openside with none of the running!