moderators/silencers

alcon1984

Just a quick one,
Is it a big deal or easy to get a rifle threaded for a moderator. It will be a .22. I know ill have to go to a gunsmith and have the permission from the garda but is it a quick easy thing, or an expensive big deal and is there much risk that he/she could make a mess.
Im looking at two rifles, one is factory threaded and the other is not,if its a big thing ill go for the factory threaded one and if not ill go with the other.

Cheers in advance:D

maglite

any engeneering shop worth its salt can do it

all it is is threading pipe, and most wil do it to a higher tolerance than a smith

Vegeta

Is there a huge difference in the factory threaded and non threaded rifles, price or functionality wise?

personally I'd get it factory threaded if I could

alcon1984

sweet, thanks for that.

no its not the price, one is a .22lr ans the other is a .22wmr, the lr is threaded and the wmr is not.

bob lee swagger

Vegeta wrote: »

Is there a huge difference in the factory threaded and non threaded rifles, price or functionality wise?

personally I'd get it factory threaded if I could

a fella lambert in wexford uses to thread barrels does a better job than factory, around 60 quid to do it

Grizzly 45

all it is is threading pipe, and most wil do it to a higher tolerance than a smith[/quote]

Not Quite... I had a barrel fuked up on a rifle,by using that thought process of using any old machine shop.Yes it is pipe all right.But it is how the lathe is set up to do the job.It has to be done between live centers and usually with a 4jaw chuck.The actual cutting is about five mins.The lathe perapation if the shop hasnt done it before about a half hour.Thats what you are paying for. Would rather a gun smith do it who knows his stuff.

Vegeta

bob lee swagger wrote: »

a fella lambert in wexford uses to thread barrels does a better job than factory, around 60 quid to do it

I agree on the craftsmanship bob lee, a good tool maker or fitter will do a top notch job. I'd just be worried about a come back.

The only reason I'd like to buy it factory threaded is incase the gun smith or anyone else fcuks up the job and ruins your rifle.

What kind of come back do you have then?

Possible cut and recrown needed.

At least with it factory fitted if the thing is spraying rounds like a shot gun you can go back to the shop and change the rifle

clivej

NOT quite like treading a pipe, a pipe is parallel, both sides even, a barrel is tappered. The barrell is held in the chuck and a rotating tappered guide at the musel end. Then you have to work out how to hold the barrel to put the thread.

bob lee swagger

Vegeta wrote: »

I agree on the craftsmanship bob lee, a good tool maker or fitter will do a top notch job. I'd just be worried about a come back.

The only reason I'd like to buy it factory threaded is incase the gun smith or anyone else fcuks up the job and ruins your rifle.

What kind of come back do you have then?

Possible cut and recrown needed.

At least with it factory fitted if the thing is spraying rounds like a shot gun you can go back to the shop and change the rifle

id imagine if you go through your gun dealer for this work when purchasing the gun that he is responsible for your man messing up the barrel

johngalway

I'd prefer to have mine done by a gun****h to be honest. No offence to any engineering outfits, I just think it's the safest yet probably more expensive way to go.

What's not allowed about g*u*n*s*m*i*t*h? lol

bunny shooter

John Greene Waterford 086 3554425 - top notch

Rovi

johngalway wrote: »

I'd prefer to have mine done by a gun****h to be honest. No offence to any engineering outfits, I just think it's the safest yet probably more expensive way to go.

What's not allowed about g*u*n*s*m*i*t*h? lol

Hmmmm... gunsmith.

Seems to work now, and over on the Test forum.

Are you sure you spelt it correctly?
I'm thinking that substituting the 'm' for an 'h' would give the profanity filter something to get its teeth into.

clivej

bunny shooter wrote: »

John Greene Waterford 086 3554425 - top notch

Was talking to John on Monday good man, all the right gear for threading your barrel, a lot of dearlers use him. AND you should see the custom rifle stocks he makes a work of art to the highest degree.
I was also looking at custom rifle's he makes/made beautiful pieces of work that anyone would love to own. IMHO only.
I'm dropping my sons CZ Lux 223 in to get threaded and fitted for a T4/T8 mod next week, not sure which one until my son see's them both.

johngalway

Rovi wrote: »

Hmmmm... gunsmith.

Seems to work now, and over on the Test forum.

Are you sure you spelt it correctly?
I'm thinking that substituting the 'm' for an 'h' would give the profanity filter something to get its teeth into.

Very possibly so Rovi as my typing does seem to have gone entirely to smit lately!

cooperjeff9

clivej wrote: »

Was talking to John on Monday good man, all the right gear for threading your barrel, a lot of dearlers use him. AND you should see the custom rifle stocks he makes a work of art to the highest degree.
I was also looking at custom rifle's he makes/made beautiful pieces of work that anyone would love to own. IMHO only.
I'm dropping my sons CZ Lux 223 in to get threaded and fitted for a T4/T8 mod next week, not sure which one until my son see's them both.

T4 is for rifles up to and including .223, T8 for rifles above .223. There is a weight difference and slight length variation between both but the the T4 should do the job fine on a .223.

Vegeta

cooperjeff9 wrote: »

T4 is for rifles up to and including .223, T8 for rifles above .223. There is a weight difference and slight length variation between both but the the T4 should do the job fine on a .223.

I was under the impression that the diameter of the hole (cant think of a better word) in the mods comes in different sizes depending on caliber.

So you can get a mod suitable for a .308 but it will not be as effective if used for a .223 etc

I am not sure why I think this about the T4/T8, I will look into it and clarify

Hezz700

Vegeta wrote: »

I was under the impression that the diameter of the hole (cant think of a better word) in the mods comes in different sizes depending on caliber.

So you can get a mod suitable for a .308 but it will not be as effective if used for a .223 etc

I am not sure why I think this about the T4/T8, I will look into it and clarify

I from regularly looking at the advertisements in shooting sports and target sports. I would be lead to believe that most fullbore moddys are divided into 2 groups. those that will suit any .22 centerfire up to 25-06 and those that accommadate the of .30 cals.

Vegeta

Hezz700 wrote: »

I from regularly looking at the advertisements in shooting sports and target sports. I would be lead to believe that most fullbore moddys are divided into 2 groups. those that will suit any .22 centerfire up to 25-06 and those that accommadate the of .30 cals.

That's what I am on about yeah, thank you for that

milkerman

Whats the point in getting a .22WMR threaded? Are these not supersonic rounds so the noise reduction is probably going to be minimal at best. Or am I talking total smit?

bunny shooter

milkerman wrote: »

Whats the point in getting a .22WMR threaded? Are these not supersonic rounds so the noise reduction is probably going to be minimal at best. Or am I talking total smit?

not total smit :pac:

Hezz700

milkerman wrote: »

Whats the point in getting a .22WMR threaded? Are these not supersonic rounds so the noise reduction is probably going to be minimal at best. Or am I talking total smit?

Only .22's firing subsonic ammo truly benefit from the use of mods. Try a few hi velocity rounds through a modified .22 and see how little the noise is reduced.

As regards modifying a centerfire rifle the real benefit is to your own ears, since the loud bang is effectively muffled but sonic boom is still present in the form of a protracted crack.