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Whispered

I need your advice please. The night before last I had a nightmare in which my father had a heart attack and I couldn't get an ambulance. I got through to 999 who told me "I wont get an ambulance to you tonight, it will be May 19th". The fact I remember it so clearly is worrying me.

Then my sister was reading the tarot for my mam, neither of then knew about this dream. The first card she pulled was the death card, which can mean new beginnings, so they took out another which was the widow card. Then they stopped.

Think we should be worried? (no ridiculing please)

El_mariachi

Listen Helena its more than likely nothing more than a particularly vivid dream. I have had very vivid dreams of going to hell, my girlfriend turning into a demon and trying to kill me and my friends be possessed, I know they are scary but try not to get worried about random coincides.

Please do not put too much stock in your dream or the people who will say it's a warning especially if it is something as serious as your fathers health.

If your father is at risk of heart problems get a first aid manual, do a cpr course and research on the net alittle so you be able act if god forbid anything happens.

In the mean time, If you still have a concern please, actually No, I insist you get your father to get a check up by a qualified professional. No one here is able nor should they give you medical advice. Make him see a doctor if you are concerned. Its the only choice to make sure everything is ok, which it will be.

congo_90

+1 El_mariachi

op, get your father checked out. Don't let the dream worry you too much though. I've had some awful dreams before so clear i had to ask the people in waking life if it happened or not. just try and not think about it. It probably doesn't mean anything except some worries or stress related issues in your life

Oryx

I read tarot a bit. Ive never recognised one of the cards as specifically a widow card. Perhaps a subconcious fear of losing your father influenced the way the cards were read?
What both this and your dream suggests to me that in your family at the moment you all have a level of concern for your fathers health which you may not even talk about much, but feel. Ive had dreams like yours with dates, but theyre rarely significant, please dont put much store on it.

But ask your dad to visit the doc (without scaremongering ) and hopefully it will set you all at ease.

Whispered

Thanks, we've had another development. My 9 year old sister (who obviously knew nothing about this) had a nightmare last night. Mam was crying, there were loads of people around, then Dad said that we had to go to the church. The fact that he was in the dream is a good thing. My baby sister has had amazing "success" at predicting things through dreams. One time saying "*insert name here* is dead" in her sleep - person died that night. :eek:

He's heading to the doc on friday - I know he doesn't believe a word of it, but I'm glad he's going to ease our minds - aw bless.

karynp

helena sweetheart,dont worry about the dream.
I would say your dad is actually very healthy, dreaming of the illness ect and not being able to get an ambulance when you dialled 999,is more to do with the state of your own mind rather than an actual heart attack for your dad, its saying you are in a rather vunerable place right now,in relationships,be it very close ones or ones that are not so close but there is a helplessness that you are feeling over a situation out of your control.
as for the tarot cards,am i to understand the card your sis viewed as a widow card was actually the five of cups please? try not to push any emotions onto the cards when they are being read. i would really think all this is an emotional issue that needs to be addressed somehow.
did you actually dial 999 in the dream,can you remember doing it? its a cry for help somehow,only you can know where.
as for the date, i would take the date as important,many may not,but from experience,when i have remembered a specific date from a dream its usually significant.
do you drive by any chance? the date is something which may stress you out a little but i definitely wouldnt see it as a death or anything.
Also,try to look within for the answers you seek and value your own opinion as your mind is telling you that you dont need outside help with something that the answers are within.

El_mariachi

karynp wrote: »

helena sweetheart,dont worry about the dream.
I would say your dad is actually very healthy, dreaming of the illness ect and not being able to get an ambulance when you dialled 999,is more to do with the state of your own mind rather than an actual heart attack for your dad, its saying you are in a rather vunerable place right now,in relationships,be it very close ones or ones that are not so close but there is a helplessness that you are feeling over a situation out of your control.
as for the tarot cards,am i to understand the card your sis viewed as a widow card was actually the five of cups please? try not to push any emotions onto the cards when they are being read. i would really think all this is an emotional issue that needs to be addressed somehow.
did you actually dial 999 in the dream,can you remember doing it? its a cry for help somehow,only you can know where.
as for the date, i would take the date as important,many may not,but from experience,when i have remembered a specific date from a dream its usually significant.
do you drive by any chance? the date is something which may stress you out a little but i definitely wouldnt see it as a death or anything.
Also,try to look within for the answers you seek and value your own opinion as your mind is telling you that you dont need outside help with something that the answers are within.

First off karynp, I suspect you're not qualified to give psychological advice so please don't its not a good idea. You shouldn't install such idea's or fears into a person. Poor helena has had a horrible night mare. Its quite simple, not deep rooted issues as your implying

Helena there is nothing to worry about, a dream does not imply psychological problems or emotional issues. You just have a healthly case of paranoia about a loved one which is completely natural and something I would have in my mind too after such a dream.

Oryx

El_mariachi wrote: »

First off karynp, I suspect you're not qualified to give psychological advice so please don't its not a good idea. You shouldn't install such idea's or fears into a person. Poor helena has had a horrible night mare. Its quite simple, not deep rooted issues as your implying

Helena there is nothing to worry about, a dream does not imply psychological problems or emotional issues. You just have a healthly case of paranoia about a loved one which is completely natural and something I would have in my mind too after such a dream.

Not totally fair comment imho. I thought karens post was quite positive and was trying to remove rather than add to helenas fear. Remember this is posted in paranormal, not PI, so obviously helena may have wanted a reply which can take into account any possible divinatory meanings.

El_mariachi

KtK wrote: »

so obviously helena may have wanted a reply which can take into account any possible divinatory meanings.

Hello?

karynp wrote: »

i would really think all this is an emotional issue that needs to be addressed somehow.

Telling someone they might have serious emotional issues is not something to joke about and can have ill effects. So because she wants a paranormal slant on advice, Based on a dream, we should tell her there is some cause for alarm or worry?

I am all for a paranormal/divinatory meaning for the dreams but claiming this

karynp wrote: »

i would really think all this is an emotional issue that needs to be addressed somehow.

is dangerous.

stevenmu

El_mariachi, if you have an issue with a persons post, use the report post button, do not tackle them on thread about it.

As it stands I am quite happy with the content in karynp's reply. It adds to the paranormal aspect of the discussion in terms of dream interpretation and tarot cards. I understand your concern about the discussion of 'emotional issues', but that is a very broad and generic term which can range in meaning anywhere from being a tiny bit worried or stressed or upset about something to 'serious' emotional issues. What I take from karynp's post is that she is simply suggesting that the dream may be the result of some unconcious stress or worry, which I feel is a perfectly valid and appropriate suggestion for here, and is not attempting to diagnose or advise based on that (which of course would not be allowed)

So please, back on topic, and if anyone has further issue please bring it up with me via pm, or use our feedback thread if you prefer.

karynp

oh dear, i didnt think i would have to defend myself so dramatically over what is simply my humble opinion of a dream,which i may say,i have a lot of experience with dream analysis. Some people think there nothing but dreams,others,me included see them as other fasades of the mind which we either refuse or cannot deal with in waking moments.
And yes, i am trying to help helena see it for what it is,am most certainly not implying any psychological disorders or deep mental issues.
Something small in an emotion can come into our dreams at night blown out of all proportion and usually there is a simple explanation.Our subconscoius minds try to deal with things as we sleep.I am not a qualified psychologist nor do i claim to be.
Im sure what ive written will give a different perspective to helena and hopefully help her out.If i have offended helena then i will appologise.

El_mariachi

I wil reply here as I wish to make my intentions clear to all

I was posting it here to stop people needlessly worrying Helena.
Dream interpretation is not a valid way of judging the emotional state of anyone. Regardless of it being appropriate for this forum it's not a good idea EVER to tell someone they have emotional issues especially when you're not qualified in any way to judge.

Helena asked should she worry, I said no and added what she should do to remove or lessen her worries.

Karynp said No but you might have issues.

stevenmu

Ok well I hope everyone has that out of there systems and it's all sorted,any more off topicness on this thread will lead to bannings.

Whispered

Karynp, you didn't offend me in any way, thank you for your post. There are more details in the dream which I would like to tell you if you are interested in interpeting. I could send you dream start to finish as there were one or two more details which might be relevant. And you are possibly right, I do hold a lot of worry for my parents and over the past couple of years there has been unexpected deaths in the family which I am still working through. If it was the dream alone I would be likely to ignore it. It's the dream my baby sister had and the reading (I don't know what card she was referring to) my other sister gave that has me worried. It seems very coincidental, considering none of us knew about the others until after it happened.

El_mariachi, I see where you are coming from and thank you. But I think most people have issues so don't take it as an insult at all. If she said "I think you're a raving lunatic" then I would be offended. I appreciate all the answers. Thank you everyone.

karynp

helena.ryan wrote: »

Karynp, you didn't offend me in any way, thank you for your post. There are more details in the dream which I would like to tell you if you are interested in interpeting. I could send you dream start to finish as there were one or two more details which might be relevant.

Hi Helena
I will gladly help throw a different perspective on the dreams for you,pm me alll the details and i will take a look.
Sometimes in dreams we are letting a lot go,emotionally, and for our mind to have a rational view on whats going on it formats into things we can digest a bit more easliy,sometimes the dreams are frightening or quite upsetting,usually it is an emotion of some sort working its way through the only way it can. Most people remember the dreams that have an impact on them and theres usually a more acceptable interpretation of them that makes a hell of a lot more sense than the dream itself,the important thing is not to worry about it.

MizzLolly

The Queen of Swords can represent a widow or divorcee. Can also be somebody who's healing from a lost relationship. Next to the death card, it can point to a death.


Could also be a birth. Or start of a new phase.:)

Whispered

Yes I know Mizzlolly as I read them myself, but the way it was told to me was the death card followed by the "widow card", so I assumed that is the way it was interpeted at the time of the reading.