Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

The Students (dun dun dun...)

  • 18-04-2008 11:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭


    Ok, first of all - Mr. Xiney is a student at the IT. So I know right off the bat that this doesn't apply to all of them.

    But seriously, (some of) the students in Sligo are a menace.



    Perhaps the curriculum is not challenging enough? Perhaps they aren't paying enough of their own money to take it seriously? Maybe it's just down to the culture all told?


    But something's gotta give. I'm rapidly turning into the oldest, crankiest 22 year old on the face of the planet. I know it's in the Champion every week but nothing is ever done - the college won't accept responsibility for their charges and there's no way of knowing which of the students is causing the problems.

    So is there a solution?


«1

Comments

  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Of course the college doesn't take responsibility for them, why would they? People are responsible for their own actions not the educational institution they attend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,556 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    What are the problems you refer to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭kerash


    Whats goin down is Slig OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    muffler wrote: »
    What are the problems you refer to?

    The fact that Ash Lane is paved in glass is my main concern, coupled with other random vandalism - they've broken half a dozen young trees in the Mulberry Park residential estate. (Ballinode)

    Drunken students in general making a nuisance of themselves on the pavements and the roads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Big_Mac


    Xiney wrote: »
    The fact that Ash Lane is paved in glass is my main concern, coupled with other random vandalism - they've broken half a dozen young trees in the Mulberry Park residential estate. (Ballinode)

    Drunken students in general making a nuisance of themselves on the pavements and the roads.


    Drunken students is, as drunken students does. For years sligo has been moaning about the behaviour of the student population. Look at any of the local papers around rag week and you will see a plethora of articles of this member of the council sounding off about the possibility of this, and reporters writing about students goind down hills in wheelie bins there. Its always been the same and the nature of students is to act like pillocks when drunk, but they are generally harmeless - to an extent.

    I certainly don't condone their behaviour, but with a town/city that has has such a rapid increase in its student population over the last few years, what do you expect when their pissed and in the masses?

    You can differenciate between Students and piss heads on a saturday night by the fact that Students (they are a jovial lot) get sloshed and get up to general scullduggery or minor petty vandalsim. (I wouldn't be surprised if it was some other group of youths that vandalised the trees, and not the students). Pissheads knock seven shades out of other people in the middle of the town.

    I don't believe the students are to blame here specifically, as compared to the non student general crowd, they are a more fun loving and general mick acting group. Its society's attitude to drink that is causing the problem (Hang on, need to dig out my soap box.....nnnnngh..........aah there it is)

    I was recently asked in a poll if earlier drinking hours in pubs and clubs in sligo wold cure the anti social behaviour that goes on. I don't think so. The attitude to drink nowadays is to shovel as much into you as you can before the bar closes. Having worked in a night club in a previous life, its amazing to see the amount of people that order three drinks each when the bar closes, and the can never finish them. Its greed. Moving closing hours to an hour or two earlier will just bring forward the time that the anti social behaviour happens.

    I realise that I have digressed from the original point here, but I think its relevant to the broader issue.

    I do think that there is a solution. 24 hour drinking. Sure the country would go bonkers for a few weeks, but the novelty will soon wear off, and because there is no 'Kicking Out' time, there will be no reason for the masses to congregate on the streets and cause anti social behaviour.

    Sorry, went on a bit of a rant there........:)


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭kerash


    Xiney wrote: »
    The fact that Ash Lane is paved in glass is my main concern, coupled with other random vandalism - they've broken half a dozen young trees in the Mulberry Park residential estate. (Ballinode)

    Drunken students in general making a nuisance of themselves on the pavements and the roads.

    Ah, good to hear old traditions are still being upheld!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    There's always been that sort of stuff going on, but the students number about 4,500 all in. That's an additional 20% on the town's population. They're a valuable resource to the town, but the amount is hard to absorb in a small town. That said, thousands of well monied, heavy drinking kids, for want of a better word, is something you would expect to be policed heavily, and it's just not. Changing laws with regards to pubs and clubs would neither help or be right. The hours of drinking would adjust accordingly. Anyway, the best policed place they will be on their travels will be the club. It's on the streets where the vandalism, fights and general mess happens.
    There is a real sense of a change in attitudes amongst the student population as well. There is little or no respect for elders, bar staff, Gardai or bouncers. There's an element of "you can't touch me" and "lay a finger on me and you'll be getting a solicitor's letter". Makes them too arrogant imo. There was a time when obstinance, aggression or cheek would have resulted in a swift kick in the pants.
    Without trying to be in any way snobbish about who attends college, there is also the fact that the government has created a place for everybody who wants one at this stage. That may be a good thing but it means all sorts of people, who previously did not attend third level end up as students. I'm not referring to economically disadvantaged people, but when college places were earned rather than dished out, people tended to work a little more at their course. Many of the students are there for the craic and the course is seen as an annoying distraction from their social life. If they fail miserably, there's always next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Apart from Accommodation and Alcohol, I don't think students make much difference to the economy of the town.

    I do agree though that they don't seem to appreciate the chance they are being given. When I was that age only the well-off could afford to go to college. It was never mentioned in my childhood, the possibility of me going on to third level education iirc. I went back to college at 35 part-time and really, it was a different world to me, so many opportunities these kids have, so much choice and support. The fact that you can study something that interests you, and can make a successful life doing it is fantastic.

    It beats cleaning toilets in a grotty hotel in London, which is what I was doing at that age.

    I do think that if they had to work harder to get to that position, there might be a bit less acting the maggot. In my own experience, I didn't want to stay a chambermaid, and years later I was running a (lovely)hotel. I didn't want to stay a part-time sales assistant and I ended up running my own shop. Nothing whatsoever was handed to me, I worked hard to change it. How can you appreciate anything in life if you haven't worked hard to achieve it?

    I know I can't say all students are like this, I'm sure they're not, but it can be a bit irritating having them bellow in your face p*ssed, while your going about your business. It often strikes me that its Mummy and Daddys fault for giving the brats too much, and not teaching them to respect what they can achieve.

    Disclaimer: I really know a lot of students are not like this, and it is a section of them that give the whole lot a bad name. Like most other groups in society...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Xiney wrote: »
    But something's gotta give. I'm rapidly turning into the oldest, crankiest 22 year old on the face of the planet. I know it's in the Champion every week but nothing is ever done - the college won't accept responsibility for their charges and there's no way of knowing which of the students is causing the problems.

    So is there a solution?
    Your 22!!!???:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    The trees (and glass) seem to get broken at the start of semesters and during rag week. I'm certain it's the students - there aren't any other youths in the area of Mulberry Park/Ashbury lawn.

    Thing is, when I'm cycling home from work at 11 pm, if I encounter a group of students that includes some of the male persuasion, they have a tendency of yelling stupid things at me as I go past on the shared cycle lane. I don't want to take the road there because the cars are going too fast - and I'm not going fast enough. And frankly, there's a cycling lane - I should be entitled to use it.

    It's only a matter of time before someone throws a bottle at me.

    It's only a matter of time before someone tries to be funny and plays "chicken" and I run them over with my bike.

    I had someone think they were especially funny, yelling out the side of a car door while passing, "FLAT TIRE". So of course, knowing it's a distinct possibility what with all the glass everywhere, I stopped, took a look, and nothing... but then I had to get going again, uphill :mad:. Like I said, I'm cranky. And old. And I'd just worked 10 hours and I haven't had a day off since last Wednesday and had that idiot been within slapping distance I doubt I would have been able to control myself.
    Gillie wrote: »
    Your 22!!!???:eek:

    Yeah, but like I said. Old and cranky. Get off my lawn, you kids.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Big_Mac


    Xiney wrote: »
    The trees (and glass)
    Thing is, when I'm cycling home from work at 11 pm, if I encounter a group of students that includes some of the male persuasion, they have a tendency of yelling stupid things at me as I go past on the shared cycle lane. I don't want to take the road there because the cars are going too fast - and I'm not going fast enough. And frankly, there's a cycling lane - I should be entitled to use it.

    It's only a matter of time before someone throws a bottle at me.

    It's only a matter of time before someone tries to be funny and plays "chicken" and I run them over with my bike.

    I can get you a tweed blanket and a stick if you want? you can sit in the corner shaking it giving out that you're old and should be listend to :D:D:D:D:D:D

    The above is news to me. My experience of students (albeit a few years ago) was that they were a jovial lot; pissheads but harmless. Its starting to look like they are following the growing trend of the youth in the town (or at least the ones who give them a bad name) No respect, and couldn't care less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Xiney wrote: »

    Yeah, but like I said. Old and cranky. Get off my lawn, you kids.

    Sounds like my kinda woman!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    il gatto wrote: »
    Without trying to be in any way snobbish about who attends college, there is also the fact that the government has created a place for everybody who wants one at this stage. That may be a good thing but it means all sorts of people, who previously did not attend third level end up as students. I'm not referring to economically disadvantaged people, but when college places were earned rather than dished out, people tended to work a little more at their course. Many of the students are there for the craic and the course is seen as an annoying distraction from their social life. If they fail miserably, there's always next year.


    I agree with this - it's why I've begun to think the courses aren't challenging enough.

    If they were more challenging, the students would have to work harder, drink less and focus on college. Where I went to University, only first years went drinking every week (almost nobody went every day!) and then you either flunked out (ie, got kicked out for marks that were too low) or settled down to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    XINEY
    Yer lucky you were not here in the early 90's, if you think today is wild its a old folks home compared to then, even thought the student community is way larger now.
    Between the clarence, the southern and equenox the pubs were full of students pretty much every week night (drink was cheap) with house parties following, i know there are a lot more parties now (due to drink being dear)
    but i was in town other night and place was empty on what would usually be considered a student night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    elshambo wrote: »
    XINEY
    Yer lucky you were not here in the early 90's, if you think today is wild its a old folks home compared to then, even thought the student community is way larger now.
    Between the clarence, the southern and equenox the pubs were full of students pretty much every week night (drink was cheap) with house parties following, i know there are a lot more parties now (due to drink being dear)
    but i was in town other night and place was empty on what would usually be considered a student night

    It was more fun then too. It's the behavior that's bad more than just sheer numbers. Used to be very few fights or aggression. More laid back.
    Sueme, I realise they don't spend a huge amount outside of rent and drink, but imagine the amount of fresh money coming into Sligo and then being spent via the people who rent them accomodation as well as all the staff in pubs, shops and clubs who make their living off them. It must be worth tens of millions every year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    il gatto wrote: »
    Sueme, I realise they don't spend a huge amount outside of rent and drink, but imagine the amount of fresh money coming into Sligo and then being spent via the people who rent them accomodation as well as all the staff in pubs, shops and clubs who make their living off them. It must be worth tens of millions every year.

    Good point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    il gatto wrote: »
    It was more fun then too. It's the behavior that's bad more than just sheer numbers. Used to be very few fights or aggression. More laid back.
    Sueme, I realise they don't spend a huge amount outside of rent and drink, but imagine the amount of fresh money coming into Sligo and then being spent via the people who rent them accomodation as well as all the staff in pubs, shops and clubs who make their living off them. It must be worth tens of millions every year.

    Since they are not around the town, most of the trouble in the student housing estates?

    Feed of drink is supposed to make you sleepy, Vodka red bull
    Fat frogs and the far superiour and slightly less bad of you "Chilli Pepper"(yum yum) dont get you drunk its sugar/booze poisioning, ive had the tingly arm think on the red bull (scary out)
    ban this cr*p like the french did
    Tv feeding false lives to the kiddies also fuels their discontent!?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59OJ17raqWw (contains some swearing)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    ...what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Think i'm gonna take a trip to Sligo soon, sounds like a right aul craic, if I see you OP i'll be sure to scream at you, might even pull me kacks down too

    Although it would be more likely that you see me, when you're twitching your curtains looking out, you old fogey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Think i'm gonna take a trip to Sligo soon, sounds like a right aul craic, if I see you OP i'll be sure to scream at you, might even pull me kacks down too

    Although it would be more likely that you see me, when you're twitching your curtains looking out, you old fogey

    Oh a "hilarious" student. :rolleyes:


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    sueme wrote: »
    Oh a "hilarious" student. :rolleyes:
    I'll see you too, ya f*cking dry sh*te


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    Xiney wrote: »
    ...what?

    booze mixed with energy drinks makes you hyper instead of tired

    Hyper drunk more likely to be involved in things at night than tired one

    Modern life stress nonsence xfactor/big brother/holyoaks cr*p lot of kids buy into can lead to them being unhappy (not directly, its a build up type thing)

    Unhappy hyper drunk can cause trouble when meets Unhappy hyper drunk
    whereas Unhappy tired drunk meets Unhappy tired drunk is less likely to cause trouble

    French banned RedBull

    Kiddies section of the local library is supposed to be very good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    Think i'm gonna take a trip to Sligo soon, sounds like a right aul craic, if I see you OP i'll be sure to scream at you, might even pull me kacks down too

    Aye but unless I was cycling with a magnefying glass I doubt I'd notice anything out of the ordinary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Xiney wrote: »
    Aye but unless I was cycling with a magnefying glass I doubt I'd notice anything out of the ordinary.
    Well what are you f*cking crying about here so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Xiney wrote: »
    Aye but unless I was cycling with a magnefying glass I doubt I'd notice anything out of the ordinary.


    Human Bonsai!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Think i'm gonna take a trip to Sligo soon, sounds like a right aul craic, if I see you OP i'll be sure to scream at you, might even pull me kacks down too

    Although it would be more likely that you see me, when you're twitching your curtains looking out, you old fogey
    I'll see you too, ya f*cking dry sh*te
    Well what are you f*cking crying about here so

    Give Daddy back his laptop son!

    Gob$hite!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Sounds like there's a lot of people on here who are bitter about having to work all week as us students are on the tear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Hardly!

    People are simply discussing whether students add to anti-social problems in Sligo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Gillie wrote: »
    Hardly!

    People are simply discussing whether students add to anti-social problems in Sligo.


    Its such a shame what happened to the Lady Erin statue, I haven't been near there lately, did they manage to clean the graffiti off?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Was that students though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Ah I don't know for sure - but comes under the anti-social behaviour banner!

    Blame students anyway...:D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    il gatto wrote: »
    Sueme, I realise they don't spend a huge amount outside of rent and drink, but imagine the amount of fresh money coming into Sligo and then being spent via the people who rent them accomodation as well as all the staff in pubs, shops and clubs who make their living off them. It must be worth tens of millions every year.

    Apparently it's €40 million a year.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055154734


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird




    Yeah, but, but...




    Alright so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Have to agree with all of what Il Gatto said earlier in the thread. Many of the students in Sligo are here because its so easy to get a place in college nowadays. Add that to the parents bank-rolling them and you've got a small minority of students who are here just for the piss-ups and the craic. In my last job I came into contact with students from the IT on a daily basis, and while many of them were decent kids there to study (whilst going out and doing all the things we associate with student life as well), there were plenty of what I can only describe as thick-as-pig-****e morons that would, 9 times out of 10, end up leaving their course by Christmas and end up staying around as long as Mammy and Daddy provided the reddies for them to do so. A lot of these children have no respect for property or other people and only serve to help alienate the rest of the student body from the local population. Also, there are many students that are obviously so unintelligent that when somebody complains about a section of them and their behaviour around the town, their only response is one of petty insults and no real arguments.* These people really don't help the student's cause either.

    I have absolutely no problem with people going out and getting off their chops on whatever the hell it is that people like to get off their chops on. God knows, I do it myself on a regular basis. What I do have a problem with, however, is people getting off said chops and abusing other people and property. I don't care how washing-machined I've been, I can never remember a time when I thought it'd be great craic to start smashing glasses and bottles in the street or picking a fight with the first person I saw.

    It must also be said though, that this type of behaviour is not exclusive to students.

    *see a certain poster above for example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Big_Mac


    el_weirdo wrote: »

    It must also be said though, that this type of behaviour is not exclusive to students.

    Nail... Head.... Hit...On..... Its not just the students that should take the blame for this (I'm not insinuating that anyone on this post has suggested this) but the youth of Sligo, and the country in general has a lot to answer for. How many times has anyone here been through town for whatever and has been jeered at for no aparrant reason? The all too familiar sound of 'Hey you!' or 'What are you saying hey!' springs to mind:(


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    Unfortunately, the students are surely to blame for the situation in Ballinode.

    It was so quiet and clean when I first moved in. Idyllic, really. A week later the students moved in: glass EVERYWHERE, (it's actually not bad now compared to what it was in September) trees broken and in the middle of the street (someone even went into a yard and broke off a palm tree, I've never gardened in Ireland but aren't those things expensive?)

    I got to thinking, I couldn't even have a dog around here even if my landlord would let me, because I wouldn't be able to walk him on the pavements. Glass + dog feet = disaster + expensive vet bills. I got to thinking as well, that it's a good thing Mr Xiney and I don't have children - because they wouldn't be able to play in the little green areas around, as glass has been swept into them.


    It IS (a small number of) the students that are causing these problems here. Incidents coincide beautifully with the times of less strenuous study. Elsewhere, there are others creating problems no doubt. But the only people under 25 around here are students, pretty much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I hate students.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo



    Maybe, someone should take into account the costs of cleaning up the streets, replacing and repairing vandalised public property and policing on "student nights". Not to mention the misery that non-student tenants in many of the private housing estates around the college go through for 9 months of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    el_weirdo wrote: »
    Maybe, someone should take into account the costs of cleaning up the streets, replacing and repairing vandalised public property and policing on "student nights". Not to mention the misery that non-student tenants in many of the private housing estates around the college go through for 9 months of the year.

    Sligo doesn't spend squat cleaning up anything. Hence being Ireland's filthiest town.:pac::D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    I miss being a student *sighs and waits for acceptance into a postgrad*. I've skimmed through the thread but can anyone actually say for sure that the problems Xiney is talking about is all or even mostly caused by students? I don't go out in Sligo so I don't know what its like at night, but we never did that much drinking outside when I was at uni, that was usually underage kids and sometimes foreigners (personal experience only people!) And also, have you reported any of this to the guards Xiney?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    Yes, I'm sure it's the students. If you lived here, you'd understand. Quiet as a mouse while exams are on, or if the students are back home, but most other times (especially when coming back after a long absence, see: Christmas) it's crazy.

    I haven't reported any of the vandalism to the guards because frankly, they're aware of the vandalism but without positive identification of the individual who perpetrated it, they can't do a thing.

    Should the harassment become a problem I will phone 999 - there was an issue with a drunk student who grabbed my breast as he was walking past me and I had the guards stop him and strongly caution him, although I would have been within my rights to have him charged with assault.


    I agree that the cost of cleaning up after [a small fraction of] the student population should be factored into the equation of what they bring to the city - as well as their impact on the enjoyment of Sligo by those who live near them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I miss being a student *sighs and waits for acceptance into a postgrad*. I've skimmed through the thread but can anyone actually say for sure that the problems Xiney is talking about is all or even mostly caused by students? I don't go out in Sligo so I don't know what its like at night, but we never did that much drinking outside when I was at uni, that was usually underage kids and sometimes foreigners (personal experience only people!) And also, have you reported any of this to the guards Xiney?

    Cripes, I was so glad to finish college & earn some money, you could see the smoke trail behind me... student life is - unless yr parents are subsidising you big time - a harsh one. Struggling to get money for course books & materials, pay the rent & bills, and everything else like clothing, toiletries etc. I studied in Dublin, but because I was from Dublin, I only got the basic £15 a week. It barley covered the light bill.

    For the first 2 years I worked 4 nights a week plus weekends, then as I couldn't afford to do that (or I'd have failed), I spent the last year living on ill gotten gains (as the tax office - and maybe C.A.B. are apt to reading forums & investigating people through the web, I won't go into details!). I finished college with a €5k debt that took 3 years to pay off... and though I did have more than a few drunken nights (well usually drugged up nights coz drugs are cheaper), I never went around wrecking the place or disturbing anyone (except my own head!).

    Students get a hard time of it... even though I hate them! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Big_Mac


    Xiney wrote: »
    there was an issue with a drunk student who grabbed my breast as he was walking past me and I had the guards stop him and strongly caution him, although I would have been within my rights to have him charged with assault.

    Is it possible that they confused you with on of the regular student rabbel and thought you'd be up for a laugh? Not that this would excuse anything, but didn't you say that you were only 22? It's possible if they were pissed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,556 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Xiney wrote: »
    I haven't reported any of the vandalism to the guards because frankly, they're aware of the vandalism but without positive identification of the individual who perpetrated it, they can't do a thing.
    Well you should report it to the Gardai. Maybe they aren't aware of it and even if they are then the more people who complain about it the more interest the Gardai will take by having their members on patrol in that rea a lot more then they presently have.

    Xiney, Im not being flippant but posting about it here is achieving nothing but if you notify the Gardai and your local council officials and councillors you may see an improvement. Even if you dont you can always say you tried.

    Get a few others to do the same or if you have a residents association bring the matter to their attention and ask them to contact the relevant authorities.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    muffler wrote: »
    Well you should report it to the Gardai. Maybe they aren't aware of it and even if they are then the more people who complain about it the more interest the Gardai will take by having their members on patrol in that rea a lot more then they presently have.

    Xiney, Im not being flippant but posting about it here is achieving nothing but if you notify the Gardai and your local council officials and councillors you may see an improvement. Even if you dont you can always say you tried.

    Get a few others to do the same or if you have a residents association bring the matter to their attention and ask them to contact the relevant authorities.

    :eek: You see he keeps doing it! I have to agree Xiney with Muffler that its a good way to go, and the use of numbers with the Residents association too may lend weight to it. It may be that the gardai could add a few more patrols up that direction, preferably on foot or bike! The other thing is that there may already be CCTV cameras up there that may have some evidence. By complaining you may create a case to introduce some up there. (worse case scenario to vandalise! ). I do have issues about big brother watching you but if it were to act as an deterrant....

    But the other thing is what is the Students Union doing up there, isn't here a case too that the students representative bodies should in some ways policing/informing/guiding their own? I know there's some serious alcohol issues going on in many of our populations (not just students) , thats one issue, but creating model citizens they are not. Lets be fair someone (whoever they were) grapping your breast in that situation was sexual assault. Doesn't bad reputations go back on the college eventually, sadly in the case for the majority who are good students.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    mcgowan.b wrote: »
    Is it possible that they confused you with on of the regular student rabbel and thought you'd be up for a laugh? Not that this would excuse anything, but didn't you say that you were only 22? It's possible if they were pissed.

    I was a student up to last year - and I assure you I wouldn't have thought it a laugh even when I was 17 and in my first year. Actually, especially not when I was 17 - I probably would have beat the living daylights out of him at that point. Thankfully I'm more mature now :) (Also, I haven't worked on a farm in 4 years and it would have been a much tougher fight to win)

    Some might call me uptight for that. I say I'm empowered and believe I have a right to call my own body my own.
    muffler wrote: »
    Well you should report it to the Gardai. Maybe they aren't aware of it and even if they are then the more people who complain about it the more interest the Gardai will take by having their members on patrol in that rea a lot more then they presently have.

    Xiney, Im not being flippant but posting about it here is achieving nothing but if you notify the Gardai and your local council officials and councillors you may see an improvement. Even if you dont you can always say you tried.

    Get a few others to do the same or if you have a residents association bring the matter to their attention and ask them to contact the relevant authorities.

    I think this is an excellent suggestion - so posting here wasn't totally without achievement. I'd have just continued inwardly seething without the opportunity to vent - and now I've got a constructive outlet. So, yay! Complaining goes professional :p
    tuppence wrote: »
    :eek: You see he keeps doing it! I have to agree Xiney with Muffler that its a good way to go, and the use of numbers with the Residents association too may lend weight to it. It may be that the gardai could add a few more patrols up that direction, preferably on foot or bike! The other thing is that there may already be CCTV cameras up there that may have some evidence. By complaining you may create a case to introduce some up there. (worse case scenario to vandalise! ). I do have issues about big brother watching you but if it were to act as an deterrant....

    But the other thing is what is the Students Union doing up there, isn't here a case too that the students representative bodies should in some ways policing/informing/guiding their own? I know there's some serious alcohol issues going on in many of our populations (not just students) , thats one issue, but creating model citizens they are not. Lets be fair someone (whoever they were) grapping your breast in that situation was sexual assault. Doesn't bad reputations go back on the college eventually, sadly in the case for the majority who are good students.:(

    When the incident occured, Mr. Xiney and I contacted the college and we had a meeting with someone there. They sent out an email to the student body reminding them to be respectful (which was clearly ignored). I brought up the role the student union had to play in student-resident relations and it was kind of glossed over and ignored. I also brought up the fact that all the student union activities seemed to involve getting blitzed out of their freakin' minds (I'm more eloquent in person, I promise) and that too was sort of treated with a "well what can you do" kind of way.

    I will definitely contact the residents' association and the Gardai tomorrow though - it's on my to do list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Big_Mac


    Xiney wrote: »
    I was a student up to last year - and I assure you I wouldn't have thought it a laugh even when I was 17 and in my first year. Actually, especially not when I was 17 - I probably would have beat the living daylights out of him at that point. Thankfully I'm more mature now :) (Also, I haven't worked on a farm in 4 years and it would have been a much tougher fight to win)

    Some might call me uptight for that. I say I'm empowered and believe I have a right to call my own body my own.

    I don't think you are being uptight about it at all. Its your body, and you have the final say - end of. (Pity you didn't whop his ass :D) I haven't been a student for about 5 years, and I remember what they were like back then, so if things get gradually worse as time goes on, woe betide all of us at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    I'm going to be a student next year in Sligo IT,the way ye talk about them hear I'm going be feel guilty but I assure you I wont be one of the typical noisy and annoying students.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Big_Mac


    bobcar61 wrote: »
    I'm going to be a student next year in Sligo IT,the way ye talk about them hear I'm going be feel guilty but I assure you I wont be one of the typical noisy and annoying students.

    Don't worry bobcar, your secret's safe with us :D

    The vast majority of students are not a problem anywhere. Its always the small few that end up giving every one else a bad name:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    Yeah,well I don't want to be one of those small few.

    I'm sure I was one of those when I was in Galway,but that only happened for a year before i dropped out so roll on September so I can cause havoc to this town:p


  • Advertisement
Advertisement