Man shot dead in A1 pub tonight

ShaneU

I'm shocked this sort of thing is happening so close to home, apparently two men came in with balaclavas and shot him 6 times :eek:

here's an old rte link, but the latest I heard was he died.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0418/artane.html

Tha Gopher

The A1 pub?

Normally I hate all this Dublin forum tbh and inbred rednecks on AH cheekily asking where a well known area/landmark/pub in Dublin is but....meh.


tbh Ive often wondered what the idea is in shooting people in crowded pubs. Why there?

Having said that if I had to be killed I guess the pub is an alright place to go.....

Doctor DooM

Christ, I grew up around the corner from there.

Davidius

I am shocked by this and feel sorry for the man.

But I actually assumed 'A1 pub' meant some stupid 5 star hotel in the pub world or something stupid **** like that.

líreacán

Yes, he died about 10pm.

Edit: "The A1 is in Artane. It is short for Ardlea Inn.

NoQuarter

SDooM wrote: »

Christ, I grew up around the corner from there.

wow it could so easily have been you!!

did you see your life flash before your eyes!?!?

dubtom

Christ!!! I passed that place a few weeks ago... If I'd known I'd have taken a picture.......................................................................................:eek:

Dirty Knuckles

Davidius wrote: »

I am shocked by this and feel sorry for the man.

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Why are you sorry for him?.

Its not like he got a bad pint and keeled over, he lived and died by the sword.
I feel more sorry for his GF and kids. He was due to be married next week, and last night (when he was shot) his GF was on her hen's in Belfast.

damnyanks

He had more then 24 convinctions according to RTE

Guy sounds like he was clowning around.

Collie D

Tha Gopher wrote: »

tbh Ive often wondered what the idea is in shooting people in crowded pubs. Why there?

I suppose it's an opportunity. They know their target is there and probably having a few pints, guard is lowered...easy. Also goes to show how little these animals give a sh*t about anybody. For all those who say "Sure, let them kill each other" I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult for some innocent punter to be shot accidentally in a crowded boozer.

Brow

I live very close to it and the road has been closed of all day. Hopefully its back to normal or its the long way to work tomorrow.

Dandelion6

Dirty Knuckles wrote: »

I feel more sorry for his GF and kids.

Fair enough about the kids, they didn't choose to have a scumbag for a father. Won't be shedding any tears for her though, by the sounds of things she couldn't have not known what he was like. Imagine planning to marry someone like that.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Brow wrote: »

I live very close to it and the road has been closed of all day. Hopefully its back to normal or its the long way to work tomorrow.

Nah, it hasn't.

Gavin "shels"

Tha Gopher wrote: »

tbh Ive often wondered what the idea is in shooting people in crowded pubs. Why there?

Having said that if I had to be killed I guess the pub is an alright place to go.....

Why not. Because they know if anyone in the pub said anything to the Gardai they get shot or something.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Gavin shels wrote: »

Why not. Because they know if anyone in the pub said anything to the Gardai they get shot or something.

Your from the Coombe (did you say that before?)..

What about Bernard Dempsey, he thought the same!.

Wishbone Ash

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Ive often wondered what the idea is in shooting people in crowded pubs

The "best" place to kill someone is in a crowded area - ensuing chaos, confusion, fear, confused witnesses, alcohol and then conflicting eye witness accounts leading people to doubt what they saw and then, as Gavin has said a sense of fear will set in.

Murder someone on a deserted street or road and there will probably be a cold clinical witness around somewhere.

I drank in the A1 one Sunday lunchtime in 1989 but haven't been in it since then. It intrigued me then as it was full of childrens buggies!

Jay D

What a way to go but you gotta love RTE's constant stone age principles on id'ing criminals.

One was wearing a waist-length jacket with a white symbol on the left hand side, the other was wearing white runners.

Always so distinguishable when they are wearing a distinctive pair of trainers with a tick on them :rolleyes:

Gavin "shels"

Mairt wrote: »

Your from the Coombe (did you say that before?)..

What about Bernard Dempsey, he thought the same!.

Well around the corner in The Tenters.

Bernard Dempsey as in Sinn Fein lad, who got sentenced for murdering a drug-dealer in The Green Lizard? What about him?

Gavin "shels"

By killing someone is a packed place probably gives this people "a buzz", shows that they're not afraid, etc... hence stamping on the local community.

estebancambias

Gav, I honestly thought the Tenters was a joke name....like one of those names made up for comedic effect.

Gavin "shels"

estebancambias wrote: »

Gav, I honestly thought the Tenters was a joke name....like one of those names made up for comedic effect.

http://ericbyrne.blogspot.com/2007/05/tenterhooks.html


I get that everyday btw, mainly off my northside Shels mates.:(

Collie D

Gavin shels wrote: »

http://ericbyrne.blogspot.com/2007/05/tenterhooks.html


I get that everyday btw, mainly off my northside Shels mates.:(

Been meaning to point that out to you. Why Shels? I know they're a southside club (which I love pointing out to my Shels supporting mates) but you're probably first fan of theirs I know from that side

humberklog

Is the Tenters boozer atill open? I used to live near it a few year ago and used it as my regular. Good pub but haven't noticed it open in quite a while.

Was v.surprised to hear people that haven't a clue talking 'up' the A1 on newstalk radio yesterday as though it was a tough pub on d'norside. It's a very respectable and friendly pub. In a smart quiet enough area. I know one of the bar managers there. He's worked there since he was 15,he'd be 38ish now. Must be some kinda record for longevity in a job in these days of transiance.

Wishbone Ash

estebancambias wrote: »

Gav, I honestly thought the Tenters was a joke name

:eek: ....I hope you don't think the Blackpitts is made up also!

humberklog wrote: »

Is the Tenters boozer atill open

It seems to be closed any time I pass but Gavin would be a lot more familiar with it.

Gavin "shels"

humberklog wrote: »

Is the Tenters boozer atill open? I used to live near it a few year ago and used it as my regular. Good pub but haven't noticed it open in quite a while.

Was v.surprised to hear people that haven't a clue talking 'up' the A1 on newstalk radio yesterday as though it was a tough pub on d'norside. It's a very respectable and friendly pub. In a smart quiet enough area. I know one of the bar managers there. He's worked there since he was 15,he'd be 38ish now. Must be some kinda record for longevity in a job in these days of transiance.

http://www.millcourt.ie/ It's closed at the moment but due back open when that development has finished afaik..


Is the A1 one of those local pubs? That you have to be a local to drink in it, or is it one of those "fancy going for a pint Pat, lets go to the A1"?

Collie D

Gavin shels wrote: »

http://www.millcourt.ie/ It's closed at the moment but due back open when that development has finished afaik..


Is the A1 one of those local pubs? That you have to be a local to drink in it, or is it one of those "fancy going for a pint Pat, lets go to the A1"?

Well you don't have to be local to drink there but it would be a local pub if that makes sense. As humberklog said above it actually would be one of the less rough etablishments in the area.

líreacán

Collie D wrote: »

Well you don't have to be local to drink there but it would be a local pub if that makes sense. As humberklog said above it actually would be one of the less rough etablishments in the area.

Yeah, considering the Blacker, the Sheaf/Purple Rain and the Roundabout are all near!!!!

Wishbone Ash

Gavin shels wrote:

Is the A1 one of those local pubs? That you have to be a local to drink in it

It's a typical suburban pub and not as "local" as those in Dublin 8.

humberklog

It's a 'come on mary,we'll go for a pint and a babycham'. Decent working blokes doin the horses,watching the footy and even take the "ol' sword" out for whatever she's havin in the evening. Along the lines of The Headline or Leonards rather than say Macauleys or Farrelly's(just to give you a reference point Gav).
It's neither tough nor cliquey. Local pub on a run of shops(chipper,bookies,etc.). If someone of that ilk was getting shot around there I'd have thought it'd be the Roundabout pub. Not a bad pub but it does get a younger crowd. You wouldn't be 'scoring' drugs in the A1. Then that's probably why the guy was there if he knew his cards were marked.

Collie D

líreacán wrote: »

Yeah, considering the Blacker, the Sheaf/Purple Rain and the Roundabout are all near!!!!

Definitely...what's the Purple Rain? Sheaf changing it's name?

Gavin "shels"

humberklog wrote: »

It's a 'come on mary,we'll go for a pint and a babycham'. Decent working blokes doin the horses,watching the footy and even take the "ol' sword" out for whatever she's havin in the evening. Along the lines of The Headline or Leonards rather than say Macauleys or Farrelly's(just to give you a reference point Gav).
It's neither tough nor cliquey. Local pub on a run of shops(chipper,bookies,etc.). If someone of that ilk was getting shot around there I'd have thought it'd be the Roundabout pub. Not a bad pub but it does get a younger crowd. You wouldn't be 'scoring' drugs in the A1. Then that's probably why the guy was there if he knew his cards were marked.

Aw right. As if you look at the murders in pubs they all seem to be those "local" pubs.

Collie D

humberklog wrote: »

It's neither tough nor cliquey. Local pub on a run of shops(chipper,bookies,etc.)..

That's exactly the A1, couldn't describe it myself. The Goblet is similar, nice pleasant boozer with decent staff and customers.

humberklog wrote: »

If someone of that ilk was getting shot around there I'd have thought it'd be the Roundabout pub. Not a bad pub but it does get a younger crowd. You wouldn't be 'scoring' drugs in the A1. Then that's probably why the guy was there if he knew his cards were marked.

That and I'm informned he was barred from the Blacker

líreacán

Collie D wrote: »

Definitely...what's the Purple Rain? Sheaf changing it's name?

No, the Sheaf now has a "Niteclub" in its basement - Purple Rain *Shudder*

Collie D

líreacán wrote: »

No, the Sheaf now has a "Niteclub" in its basement - Purple Rain *Shudder*

Shudder indeed. Learn something new every day. Thought they were knocking it down and building apartments on it

líreacán

Collie D wrote: »

That's exactly the A1, couldn't describe it myself. The Goblet is similar, nice pleasant boozer with decent staff and customers.

The A1 and the Goblet are the only two in the area I'd ever drink in. It was such a shock something like that could happen there. I feel sorry for the poor old regulars (usually middle aged couples, blokes etc) having to witness it.

humberklog

I was livin in Bishopmede apt when the guy was shot in Farrell's about 2003ish,(heroin dealer over from england,name escapes me now. I went down for a goo...ooh,wasn't pretty site(but interesting). It's nothing like Farrells though. The tenters used to have a really good band on a Sunday evening there a few year back and I made the big mistake of winning the pub quiz in Macauley's on a wednesday evening...now that's a cliquey pub. I don't know what was worse...winning the quiz or sitting in someones seat. Those beafy wimmin weren't warmin to us anyway!

Gavin "shels"

Farrell's is the pub there opposite McCauleys? Well if it is, it's closed down since last year probably earlier than that.

humberklog

The Sheaf used to be a very respectable pub in it's day when Guinness owned it. i think it was their last boozer to sell. It's a pity if it's gone down hill as the people around coolock village are a good sort. I find the Goblet good for the footy and really like the bar. It's v.old style. Good and smelly. The lounge reminds me too much of a Yeates pub in england. It's fine...just a lot of patterns. " 2beautiful tall chinese lounge girls to take your eye off it though!

humberklog

Gavin shels wrote: »

Farrell's is the pub there opposite McCauleys? Well if it is, it's closed down since last year probably earlier than that.

Yeah that's the one. It did have a fruit machine that paid out though. Always looking for the positives!

Collie D

humberklog wrote: »

The Sheaf used to be a very respectable pub in it's day when Guinness owned it. i think it was their last boozer to sell. It's a pity if it's gone down hill as the people around coolock village are a good sort. I find the Goblet good for the footy and really like the bar. It's v.old style. Good and smelly. The lounge reminds me too much of a Yeates pub in england. It's fine...just a lot of patterns. " 2beautiful tall chinese lounge girls to take your eye off it though!

Yeah, I used to drink in the Sheaf before they sold it. Used to have a jukebox and get a decent young crowd in. Dog rough now though.

+1 for the lounge girls in the Goblet. Although I hate that big scary leather backed chair in the lounge. Reminds me of Mr. Burns' chair at Springfeild University

raheny red

I'd say the owner of the A1 is rather pished off about this. He is the owner of a horse who is running at Punchestown during the week :pac:

monkeyfudge

It's the closest pub to where I live... although I've probably only ever been into the A1 twice in about 30 years.

I do recall an incident involving someone getting their ear bitten off in there about 2 years back though.

Drummerboy2

The man who owns the boozer only buried his wife last week. Double tragedy.

_blank_

The A1 is a kip tbh. I would never drink in there, full of scum.

And to compare it to the Goblet, are you having a laugh or what?

Loy

Forget who said it "Why shoot someone in a crowded place like a Pub", thats exacly why, to scare people & show that they dont care about anything but themselfs.. & some other people will say yea but he was this & that (yea alegedly he was responsible for shooting some1 himself) but @ the end of the day he has family like everone else here and its only lucky that some inocent person wasnt killed in such a crowded place.. what ever happed to a good ol straightner

B.T.W. - if you think the A1 is a kip, you obviosuly were never in a real kip

Xavi6

My grandparents (RIP) lived around the corner from the A1 in Hazelwood and my Dad grew up there so spent a lot of time hanging around those shops as a kid! Only been in the pub once and didn't look too dodgy. As was said, the Roundabout is well worse.

Like The Goblet myself. Nice clean boozer with a friendly enough atmosphere. My cousin had his 21st there and had dinner a few times. Nice spot.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Drummerboy2 wrote: »

The man who owns the boozer only buried his wife last week. .

Why did he bury his wife?.

monkeyfudge

Mairt wrote: »

Why did he bury his wife?.

The usual reason...