Magnet ADSL2+ 12 Mb

JuncoPartner

Anyone have any experience with Magnet and their ADSL2+ products.
Im interested in switching from my current provider to the 12Mb uncontended package. Good move/bad move?
Smart arent available in the Finglas exchange at the moment and say they have no plans for upgrades there in the next 6 months anyway.
Eircom have upgraded the exchange but wont let me upgrade to their 12Mb. For some reason they prequal my line as only capable of 4Mb despite the fact Im already on their resold 6Mb package.
UPC cover pretty much my entire area except my block so they are out aswell.

Irishpimpdude

Didnt think magnet still do adsl2... it doesnt say they offer it on there site

JuncoPartner

They do for businesses and Id be signing up under my business account.

markpb

I think they don't advertise it to residential customers but you could ring them and ask if they've unbundled your exchange already.

Finglas exchange is ADSL2+ enabled with Magnet
Below is a list of exchanges also enabled for un contended ADSL2+ with Magnet.
Quickest way for residential to get magnet adsl is order through one of their channel partners,a few listed below.
Omnisys
Motherboard
DB computers Limerick
INS
ITalk Galway
Itomic
E-Mit Solutions


Exchanges
Beggars Bush
Belcamp
Cabra
Castletroy
Churchfield, Cork
Clondalkin, Nangor Road
Clontarf
Coolock
Cork Central
Crossagalla
Crown Alley
Crumlin
Custom House Docks
Dennehy's Cross
Dolphins Barn
Dooradoyle, Limerick
Finglas
Galway HPO
Lucan, Ballydowd
Merrion
Mervue, Galway
North Main
Nutley
Phibsboro
Portlaoise
Priory Park
Quakers Road, Cork
Roches St, Limerick
Sandyford
Santry
Shantalla, Galway
Ship St
Summerhill
Sutton
Tallaght
Waterford Central
Tycor, Waterford
Whitehall

whosedaddy?

Is this unbundled or Eircom 12MB business package...

there is a lot of overlap with this older Eircom list.

http://business.eircom.net/broadband/packages/12Mb/11943340

BALLYBODEN LUCAN BALLYDOWD
BALLYCOOLIN MALAHIDE
BEGGARS BUSH MAYNOOTH
BELCAMP MERRION
BLANCHARDSTOWN NANGOR ROAD
BRAY NEWLANDS CROSS
CABRA NORTH MAIN
CELBRIDGE NUTLEY
CLONTARF PORTMARNOCK
COOLOCK PRIORY PARK
CROWN ALLEY RATHCOOLE
CRUMLIN RATHMINES
CUSTOMS HS DOCKS ROCHESTOWN
DOLPHINS BARN SANDYFORD AEH
DUNDRUM SANDYFORD
DUN LAOGHAIRE SHANKILL
EASTPOINT SUMMERHILL
FINGLAS SUTTON
FOXROCK SWORDS
LEIXLIP TERENURE

all unbundled therefore contention free 12mb is available

Praetorian

JuncoPartner wrote: »

Anyone have any experience with Magnet and their ADSL2+ products.
Im interested in switching from my current provider to the 12Mb uncontended package. Good move/bad move?
Smart arent available in the Finglas exchange at the moment and say they have no plans for upgrades there in the next 6 months anyway.
Eircom have upgraded the exchange but wont let me upgrade to their 12Mb. For some reason they prequal my line as only capable of 4Mb despite the fact Im already on their resold 6Mb package.
UPC cover pretty much my entire area except my block so they are out aswell.

Try and get your line stats and we'll have a look at what your line is capable of. Eircom and therefore Magnet are new to the whole ADSL2+ thing. I recently tried to get our 6 m/bit line upgraded and was told that the line couldn't handle it which I knew was BS because our stats were amazing and we are very near the exchange. So I went about it the long way around, ordered a new line, got 12 m/bit on it, transferred the ip range over and then cancelled the 6 m/bit line.

Now happy with =

Line State Up
Modulation ADSL2+
Data Path Fast

Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 12282 1021
SN Margin (dB) 15.50 9.00
Line Attenuation (dB) 13.00 4.00
CRC Errors 0 0

JuncoPartner

Where can I get the line stats?

I am using a ZyXEL Prestige router in bridge mode with an Airport Extreme connected to it. I cant find the routers IP address anywhere in this set up.
If I disconnect the ethernet from router to Airport and connect it straight to my iMac I can get the setup page but the only semi relevant stats I can see is
DSL Up 6144 kbps / 832 kbps

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OK edit! found out how to telnet into it and got the following, Ive no idea whats meaningful and not so Ill post the lot!

P-660HW-T1_v2> wan adsl chandata
DSL standard: ADSL_G.dmt
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 6144 kbps
near-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 832 kbps
far-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps

P-660HW-T1_v2> wan adsl linedata far

noise margin upstream: 9 db
output power downstream: 19 db
attenuation upstream: 27 db
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 07 9a bb bc bc cc cc cb bb ba aa aa 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 64- 95: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 96-127: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 128-159: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 160-191: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 192-223: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 224-255: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 256-287: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 288-319: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 320-351: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 352-383: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 384-415: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 416-447: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 448-479: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 480-511: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


P-660HW-T1_v2> wan adsl linedata near

noise margin downstream: 18 db
output power upstream: 11 db
attenuation downstream: 45 db
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 32- 63: 00 00 22 00 00 00 00 00 0a aa bb bb ba 78 bc dd
tone 64- 95: 0d dd ee ee dd de dd ed dd dd dd dd db cd dc cc
tone 96-127: cc dc cc cc cc cc cc cc bc bb bc bb bb bb bb bb
tone 128-159: bb bb bb bb ab aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa 9a 99 99
tone 160-191: 97 99 97 88 88 88 87 87 77 76 66 77 67 76 57 77
tone 192-223: 77 67 67 57 56 66 55 66 66 50 56 65 65 65 65 55
tone 224-255: 55 55 55 45 35 45 44 34 34 32 20 22 33 32 00 23
tone 256-287: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 288-319: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 320-351: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 352-383: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 384-415: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 416-447: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 448-479: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
tone 480-511: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


P-660HW-T1_v2> wan adsl perfdata

near-end FEC error fast: 0
near-end FEC error interleaved: 35734
near-end CRC error fast: 0
near-end CRC error interleaved: 40
near-end HEC error fast: 0
near-end HEC error interleaved: 361
far-end FEC error fast: 0
far-end FEC error interleaved: 2038
far-end CRC error fast: 0
far-end CRC error interleaved: 0
far-end HEC error fast: 0
far-end HEC error interleaved: 0
ADSL uptime 46:51:01

Richard Dower

Roaches St. exchange, Limerick....so how does one get hooked up?, do i have to get a fresh line installed or ported over?....any contact numbers for Limerick?

Line stats:

Connection Speed (Downstream)=3072 kbps
Connection Speed (Upstream)=384kbps

Line Attenuation (Downstream)=29.0 db
Line Attenuation (Upstream))=15.0 db

Noise Margin (Downstream)=23.5 db
Noise Margin (Upstream)=18.0 db

Can i get the hookup then for 12MB?

AlmightyCushion

You should be able to get 12Mbps on that line.

Praetorian

JuncoPartner, I think you might be only able to get 8m/bit on that line. The downstream attenuation is a bit high.

Richard Dower, you can easily get 12 on that line. Expensive though 169 + vat per month from Eircom! Might be worth your while waiting for the free upgrade to 7.6 m/bit in June.

JuncoPartner

Crap, tho the Magnet 8Mb would still be better value than what I have...
Im not too up on what these figures mean real world but is it safe to say that the figures I posted would definately rule out getting a 12Mb connection? And that would be based on the physical cable from my router to the exchange so barring that being replaced thats as good as Ill get?

JNive

Will be upgrading to the 8mbps from the 4mbps package with Magnet on Dennehys Cross, never had any speed drops, and service uptime is top notch. We might be getting an even higher speed not too sure yet - will keep ya'll posted

dubnat

magnet's network is wholly owned and maintained by magnet. they have space in the exchanges and own their own equipment in there. telephone lines remain eircom property though.

there is a difference in the adsl2+ enabled exchanges, they have about 40 across the country including cork, waterford, limerick, galway, portlaoise and dublin.

Also main difference between eircom adsl2 and magnet is that they have a 1:1 contention whilst eircom is still at 24:1.

If when you sign up for a package with magnet you can't get the full speed you have asked for they will tell you and readjust billing to the closest speed to what you are getting, so if you signed up for 12mb and could only get 8mb then you would be told and would only pay for 8mb.

hope this has been of some help.

JuncoPartner

I have decided to give it a go with Magnet with Line Sharing for broadband on my business account. Hopefully I wont be disappointed and will at least be a reference point here as judging by the lack of responses to my actual question there doesnt seem to be too many here using their ADSL2+ services.
So far I have to say Ive been impressed with the company and the efficiency of their staff in dealing with me. One slightly dissapointing area is the need for signed CAF forms to sign up, it seems strange that there is no TPV process in place to sign up over the phone. Especially as the website tells you that you can sign up in 5 minutes over the phone!
As someone who makes their living in telecoms I suppose a good bit of it for me is they are one of the few companies I havent had any professional interactions with yet and Im curious!

JuncoPartner

Praetorian wrote: »

JuncoPartner, I think you might be only able to get 8m/bit on that line. The downstream attenuation is a bit high.

Good call Praetorian!!

Praetorian

I'm sure it feels nice n fast