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Ireland to join Sundireland?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭cm2000


    ziggy wrote: »
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    no i think comparing it to the big teams is taking it out of context as he had to build almost an entire team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭King John V


    Top teams spend that kind of money on 3-4 players. Keane brought in about 11 new names and changed a championship squad into a reasonably okay premiership squad, barring injuries to key players of course. Out of the three teams promoted last year Derby spent the least and look at the result. They're at least 20 points below Birmingham and Sunderland. At least the money that was spent allows Sunderland to compete in the top flight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Keane brought in about 11 new names and changed a championship squad into a reasonably okay premiership squad, barring injuries to key players of course. .

    Oh please. He bought up inexperienced or past it Irish players for the most part. Few if any of whom have proven their worth. Roy was as taken by the Paul McShane performance vs the Czechs as me you and the rest down the pub. Difference is, he is a manager. He should be more discerning. Instead he is like someone who runs out and buys a car that looks good on the tv ads without researching it at all.

    He changed them to a reasonably ok prem squad?

    Spurs are a reasonably ok prem squad.

    So are Villa.

    So are Man City (they were a top 4 squad for a while, but they have slipped)

    So are Reading, they have suffered but yep, they are.


    Sunderland are a poor team. They are a poor team that should have been top 8, even top 5 (in first season, and making a serious contention for top 4 in season 2) with the money spent but are not mainly due to mediocre buys. Teams who spend the 4th largest amt in the transfer market should not be battling relegation at any point.

    Only today I saw a piece in some paper of how it was only a matter of time before Keane was managing United :rolleyes: Yep, if Fergie announced he retires at the end of the season the board are going to come running to a man who finished oh, 15th in the prem if he is lucky, after squandering the 4th biggest buying budget in world football. Bollocks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Roy was as taken by the Paul McShane performance vs the Czechs as me you and the rest down the pub

    ACtually, Roy would have played with McShane in his time at United. McShane played 2 seasons in the championship, getting an incredible amounts of MOMs and goals for a CB. Was defo the best player in his season at Brighton.

    Then Roy took a chance on him. McShane can still be a very good CB, and Roy knows this and bought him. It's the same reason he's trying to sign Johnny Evans.
    Teams who spend the 4th largest amt in the transfer market should not be battling relegation at any point.

    That's just such a short term view. Spending in one summer does not detemrine a squad. All the teams around him have been consistantly spending in order to have a decent amount of plakyers in their squad. Sunderland had **** all, because they haven't spent in a while.

    Keane got Sunderland promoted with a huge bunch of **** players.
    Spent 50 million in the summer buying new players. Sunderland are now safe from relegation. If they spent another 50 million they will probably go upto safe mid table.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    PHB wrote: »

    Keane got Sunderland promoted with a huge bunch of **** players.

    You dont need Maradona up front, Ferdinand down back and Given in goal to win the c`ship.
    Spent 50 million in the summer buying new players. Sunderland are now safe from relegation. If they spent another 50 million they will probably go upto safe mid table.

    Safe my bollix. They are level with two teams and there are three teams below who can potentially leapfrog them. Only Derby and Fulham havent a hope.

    And 100 million is an awful lot to spend so you can be between 8 and 11th in the prem for the next few years. If such a big spending club get relegated (a very real possibility this year) it will be a disaster for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What are you basing that on?

    Remember, we're the club that got 34,000 every week into Maine Road when we were in Division 2. It would have been more had the ground been bigger. The fan base is most certainly there.


    Ok il just say it,City are a small club and thaksin is gona throw away his money and ruin a club with great heritage and class imo.He will run city into the ground,mark my words and it will be a sad day in Football.

    he is a thief,con artist and general bad person.He is a bad businessman,his career littered with failures.

    It is commonly thought among political people,that the only reason thaksin bought city is to get elected in the next thailand elections.The premier league is very popular amongst thai people and Thaksin wasnt allowed in thailand for a long time(he only recently was allowed back in)so what better way to keep your public profile high amongst the thai people without being in the country,than be the hero of Thailand and own a western football club!.


    I really like city but chelski are 1 in a million,Thaksin does not have the money abramovich has,so to throw millions in,he will be expecting it back.I can just see disater down the road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    I actually hope he joins Sunderland, gets relegated with them and follows the conveyor belt of Irish Sunderland players into obscurity.

    Then I wont have to listen to the saga that is his life anymore.

    amen to this. plus i'd enjoy watching a season of two of him getting his arse kicked up and down the pitch in the championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭King John V


    I certainly wouldn't like to see one of Ireland's most creative talents wasting away in the championship but I can see how people would get bored of reading about his life saga. As a nation with a small playing base I feel we have little right to take the moral high ground and simply dismiss one of our better players.

    If he could overcome his personal issues think of the contribution he could make at club and country, scoring the occasional goal along the way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Giving Keano 50 milllion was a risk, but it's a risk that has paid off. They are all but safe, probably need another win.

    2 years ago, Sunderland were exactly where Derby are now. How many Derby players do you think are good enough to survive in the PL? 50 million still wouldn't get them up to scratch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Remember, we're the club that got 34,000 every week into Maine Road when we were in Division 2. It would have been more had the ground been bigger.
    dc69 wrote: »
    Ok il just say it,City are a small club

    SYSTEM ERROR - DOES NOT COMPUTE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    2 assists today and for me an MOM performance. Finally got to play in his proper position and bossed the game. Superb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Xavi fill us in on the City forums will ye?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    2 assists today and for me an MOM performance. Finally got to play in his proper position and bossed the game. Superb.

    dont know what game you were watching,I thought he played rubbish apart from an assist.He is lazy and if a ball wasnt straight to his feet he made no effort to get it.

    It funny you say that cause I was just on the phone to mate at the end of the gmae,he reckoned he will be sold in the summer.Bad attitude imo lacks honesty of effort


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    What do you wanna know? The game just finished so those at it aren't back yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    dc69 wrote: »
    dont know what game you were watching,I thought he played rubbish apart from an assist.He is lazy and if a ball wasnt straight to his feet he made no effort to get it.

    Are you serious? Lazy? He was the player who supported Benjani most in both halves. He played the ball for the first and third goals. He also played the ball through for Vassell in the red card incident. He made numerous tackles and tracked back every time a move broke down. Seriously I know people don't like him but when he has an excellent game give the guy his dues.

    The reaction so far and during the game from City fans is that the two biggest scape goats at the club, Ireland and Vassell, were the two best players on the park today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    PHB wrote: »
    Giving Keano 50 milllion was a risk, but it's a risk that has paid off. They are all but safe, probably need another win.

    :confused::confused:

    It hasnt paid off. They are as in danger of being relegated as 2 or 3 other sides. With the money pumped in they really should be higher. Craig Gordon is his only great buy tbh. Even Eamonn Dunphy, of all people, can see it.

    Personally Id sooner see them go down than Reading if a choice had to be made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69


    ziggy wrote: »
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    type "honesty of effort" into googoel and see what comes up? lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69


    ziggy wrote: »
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    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Just thought people might be interested in seeing what Stephen gets up to in spare time

    http://www.stephenireland.com/ (The gallery section in particular)

    No doubt the haters will find some way to dismiss this but well done Stevie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    No doubt the haters will find some way to dismiss this but well done Stevie.
    Well done "anybody" that does charity work, but I don't really see the point you're trying to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Well done "anybody" that does charity work, but I don't really see the point you're trying to make.

    The point that he isn't the jumped up self centred little shit that he has been described as on this forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Personally I never thought he was, a bit mental alright but not as bad as some would make out. Mind you, an uber cynical person would question why he's putting up pictures of himself doing his charity work on his website but luckily enough I'm not one of those people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Mind you, an uber cynical person would question why he's putting up pictures of himself doing his charity work on his website but luckily enough I'm not one of those people.

    Exactly. If I was a cynical person I'd have felt exactly the same way about what he's done there.


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