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Achtung! Marino Hauses?

  • 14-04-2008 1:48pm
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    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Were the houses in marino built by germans after the WW2?
    I'm talking about the houses that lie between griffith av,malahide rd and Wrights. The houses certainly are different in lay out,materials and use of them. Particularly the mix of different pitched roofs. I've heard it said a few times but I never knew how true it was and if it was true why were they here building houses when one would imagine that there was plenty to be getting on with back home. Can anyone shine a light?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭m_stan


    I also heard this said. Would be curious to know ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭ronbyrne2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭u2gooner


    It is thought locally that the German government helped with the some of the project after WWII as some sort of "sorry" for the "accidental" bombing of nearby North strand


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    u2gooner wrote: »
    It is thought locally that the German government helped with the some of the project after WWII as some sort of "sorry" for the "accidental" bombing of nearby North strand

    i heard that they gave money for the towers in Ballymun for the accidential bombing.

    i always wonder who starts these rumours :)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    According to ronbyrne's wiki (nice one ron,thanks)it says they were built in the 20's and 30's therefore predating WW2 which kinda skotches the Nazi reperation line. Hmmm. But the ol' Hun Haus theme seams to be a recurring one. I'd never thought about the reperations for bombing line. Thought they were too busy building swimming pools in isreal. Really. And yet they look like houses built in the 40-50's. Well in comparison to our building standards of the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭u2gooner


    The wiki article mentions the houses to the east side of Marino just north of Fairview park. Theres two different styles of housing. It fails to mention the other large green north of here called Croyden Gardens which was built later. Might add weight to the rumours?????


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I'm going out that way either today or tomorrow i'll have a poke around. I'll bring a stick,a note pad,some Biros and a camera. This calls for hands on investigation. I'll knock into my sisters ex boyfriend(of about 20years)he lives on Brian rd. and interrogate him and then it'll be onto my parents.They're in there 70's,originally from east wall and are sure to get confused. I'll play the theme tune to Shoestring in the car. Ooh breakfast in brahms too whilst i'm there and maybe rattle some answers outta the casinos attendants.
    Ant other suggestions as to who i could 'rough up'in marino? Tom Humphries could be a good source but he's kinda big.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,579 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I think there is something about the houses being done based on a dutch design.

    Note that 1930s houses would be quite similar to 1950s houses - it is the intervening houses built during the war that would be on the 'mean' side dimension and finish wise.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I've been about the ol' fatherland a few times and have come across this pre-war style suburban housing scheme. It's quite surprising how many (surviving) pre-war developments look more advanced than our own. Indeed it doesn't always cfollow that the better built, more modern design followed the more drab public housing schemes. Take Donnycarney the houses to the west are older than the ones to the east and yet i think there was more comfort afforded to the older ones.
    Marino does resemble dutch housing schemes. Paticularly around the hague.
    Anyway I've been packing the adventure detective kit and making egg sandwiches for my studies tomorrow.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Back from marino recon. The houses nearer philipsburgh rd are the usual 'corpo' gaffs. The houses nearer Malahide rd. are of foreign influence. I tried rattle a few residents but they wouldn't open up. They place is like Jersey,teeming with past colaberators. Did find an interesting little building with the Jewish year 5618 (it's now 5769) on it just as you turn right at the bottom of philipsburgh av.
    Back tomorrow,I'll bring nylon tights and chocolate and try and bribe them.marino


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    humberklog wrote: »
    Back from marino recon. The houses nearer philipsburgh rd are the usual 'corpo' gaffs. The houses nearer Malahide rd. are of foreign influence. I tried rattle a few residents but they wouldn't open up. They place is like Jersey,teeming with past colaberators. Did find an interesting little building with the Jewish year 5618 (it's now 5769) on it just as you turn right at the bottom of philipsburgh av.
    Back tomorrow,I'll bring nylon tights and chocolate and try and bribe them.marino

    It's a Jewish cemetary, the oldest in Dublin actually.
    On Fairview Strand, near Luke Kelly bridge, is Dublin's oldest Jewish Cemetery. The graveyard was built in 1718, with a mortuary chapel added in 1857 (the Hebrew date 5618 is inscribed on the front) and contains more than 200 graves. The last burial there was in 1958.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    A good book that covers all this is Ruth McManus' 'Dublin 1910 - 40 : Shaping the city and suburbs' (2002).
    I can't find my copy just now but when I do, I'll scan what she says about the Marino estates.


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