Late Late Show - 11th April 2008

Mikosyko

Has anyone watched this tonight? I Think John McCririck's debate was fascinating. He may be annoying, but he does speak some sense.


Pat Spillane is on right now. I'm hooked!

estebancambias

Mikosyko wrote: »

Has anyone watched this tonight? I Think John McCririck's debate was fascinating. He may be annoying, but he does speak some sense.


Pat Spillane is on right now. I'm hooked!

Crap guests, but very interesting.

I'm a big Spillane fan. I love his voice.

muletide

Pat Spillane is just jumping on the bandwagon - He has seen how it does your career no harm by getting passionate about some great social ill.

Whether it is road safety, drink driving , suicide , cocaine or whatever - how many half celebrities have we seen ranting in their individual forum in order to boost their own profile.

Mikosyko

muletide wrote: »

Pat Spillane is just jumping on the bandwagon - He has seen how it does your career no harm by getting passionate about some great social ill.

Whether it is road safety, drink driving , suicide , cocaine or whatever - how many half celebrities have we seen ranting in their individual forum in order to boost their own profile.

Ah now hang on, he may be "boosting his own profile", he does have a point about alcohol abuse and how easily its available.

estebancambias

I understand what your saying, but why would he be boosting his profile? What purpose would it serve? He is a teacher, and Gaelic pundit(presenter)....he has a daughter, this is why he's jumping on this bandwagon because his daughter is at the age when the troubles of alcohol can kick in.

muletide

estebancambias wrote: »

I understand what your saying, but why would he be boosting his profile? What purpose would it serve? He is a teacher, and Gaelic pundit(presenter)....he has a daughter, this is why he's jumping on this bandwagon because his daughter is at the age when the troubles of alcohol can kick in.

I dont know his personal motives - but you can be sure of the following

1. He will have a picture on the front cover of the Sunday world and his column inches will increase.

2. He will be on The Last Word/Right Hook next week and not just in a sports capacity.

All of which are a nice spin off from his rant.

Mikosyko

estebancambias wrote: »

I understand what your saying, but why would he be boosting his profile? What purpose would it serve? He is a teacher, and Gaelic pundit(presenter)....he has a daughter, this is why he's jumping on this bandwagon because his daughter is at the age when the troubles of alcohol can kick in.

Exactly!

Akrasia

Who's the guy with the diamond encrusted glasses going on about god and prophesy and ****e?

MizzLolly

I dunno but he's really cool! lol

Sherifu

Sounds like a grea show...again. NOT.

aidan_dunne

I seems to me that every single Friday night, almost without fail, someone seems to start a new thread here about the 'Late Late Show'. Usually along the lines of "Pat was sh*te/cringeworthy/embarrassing tonight", "what a crap debate", "the sound levels were way off", "did you see the shoddy camerawork on the show tonight", "why are we paying our telly licence for this crap", "oh jaysus, not Tommy Tiernan/Dave McSavage/Westlife again!", etc. etc. You get the idea.

I'm just wondering, is it about time there was a general "Pat Kenny is sh*te" or "Let's all whinge about the Late Late Show" forum or perhaps there should be a stickied thread entitled "The regular Friday night complain-a-thon about this weeks 'Late Late Late Show'" or something like that maybe? Kind of a way to keep all things Kenny/Plank/LLS related in one place instead of having new individual threads started here every week. What do you think?

RoundyMooney

I suggested this weeks ago (I think it was in the context of getting an online anti Kenny lobby going (that said, recent and ongoing events may dictate a lot-enough of that))

These threads may be a result of that, or they may be coincidence, either way, I enjoy reading them.

I think a dedicated thread may be a good idea, we can just bump this one next week perhaps...

If it warrants sticking, I'm sure the forum mods will oblige.

Utopia Parkway

Thought Pat Spillane was pretty dull. Going on about fat frogs and red bull. Fair enough but it's a well trodden path by now. Ho hum.

Actually thought McCririck was fairly interesting even though he's a bit demented.

tintin67

I think a stickied post would be great. Something along the lines of: "I never EVER watch the Late Late Show, but I was flicking through the channels last night, managed to catch two hours of it and I think it was the biggest load of ....etc"

RoundyMooney

I never watch it, I just gaze upon it with a critical eye.

Toto Wolfcastle

I only managed to watch the interview with the chicklit authors before turning over. That one who used to work in RTE was HIGHLY annoying but what was worse was that Pat butts in at stupid times when he's interviewing.

If I was there he'd get a kick in the head.

RoundyMooney

He must ask his questions regardless of how the interaction with the guest is going.

Good for current affairs, bloody woeful otherwise.

I have never seen such a socially dysfunctional chat show host.

DeepBlue

aidan_dunne wrote: »

I seems to me that every single Friday night, almost without fail, someone seems to start a new thread here about the 'Late Late Show'. Usually along the lines of "Pat was sh*te/cringeworthy/embarrassing tonight", "what a crap debate", "the sound levels were way off", "did you see the shoddy camerawork on the show tonight", "why are we paying our telly licence for this crap", "oh jaysus, not Tommy Tiernan/Dave McSavage/Westlife again!", etc. etc. You get the idea.

I'm just wondering, is it about time there was a general "Pat Kenny is sh*te" or "Let's all whinge about the Late Late Show" forum or perhaps there should be a stickied thread entitled "The regular Friday night complain-a-thon about this weeks 'Late Late Late Show'" or something like that maybe? Kind of a way to keep all things Kenny/Plank/LLS related in one place instead of having new individual threads started here every week. What do you think?

Could it be a combined Late Late/Turbridy Tonight thread/forum for pretty much the same reasons as given above?

thecoolfreak

I wasn't impressed with Spillane last night. Firstly, he painted all the young people of Ireland with the same brush. Drinking is a problem in this country but the problem exists accross all age groups and the younger generation are no worse than any other generation.

Also, blaming the government for this problem is pathetic. There are a few things they could do to help the problem, ie stop selling of alcohol in petrol stations. But at the end of the day the only way we as a nation will ever solve this problem is if people start to cop themselves on and respect alcohol.

SprostonGreen

I enjoyed it last night.

Didnt see McCrirrick and glad of it.

Granted Pat Spillane was was doing what everyone seems to be doing now, ranting on about the state of the place, a national introspective, valid points though.

Deepak Chopra, great, especially after a few reefers.

Beans_On

Pat Spillane was ridiculous.

Didnt answer one question pat asked him (in regards to 24 hour bars, Waht he thinks should be done etc) , he just rambled on about the youth of today.

Oh yeah they never drank shots of whiskey back in his day:eek:

Also thought pat mentioning"back in my drinking days i was tucked up in bed by 1" was hilarious.

CazX

Pat was not appearing on the show to boost his career, he was merely using the show as an oulet to express his views on an issue that is of great concern to him. His words were honest and just and for them to be dismissed as anthing but proves an unfortunate attitude in this country of people failing to accept the harsh realities of our society. Saturday night Ireland is a term that can cover any night of the week and Saturday night Ireland is one of the greatest of our failures as a nation. I am not biased, I may be his daughter, but I am also a member of this Saturday night set and am not afraid to say to say that we greatly need to call for positive change should we take the mature choice to rectify this problem.

Sherifu

CazX wrote: »

I may be his daughter

:eek:


Welcome to boards.

Unshelved

I may be his daughter

Doesn't your dad own a pub? What's he going to do - start practicing what he preaches and start serving soft drinks only? Or just limit his restrictions to fat frogs and red bull?

homepage.eircom.net/~templenoehomepage/patspillane/

darkman2

CazX wrote: »

I may be his daughter

lol Not sure eh?

Anyway cant stand Pat Spillane - not him personally but his accent cuts through you like a knife. Horrible Kerry bog accent. Nearly as bad as the Cork accent:mad: Im sure he is a nice man personally though.

I do agree there is a big problem with alcohol - its not just Saturday night btw - and im a young person myself. Fair play to him for going on the Late Late and saying what most of us already know.....

Mr.Nice Guy

thecoolfreak wrote: »

I wasn't impressed with Spillane last night. Firstly, he painted all the young people of Ireland with the same brush

Eh? He did the very opposite. He went to great pains to point out that there were a lot of decent young people.

thecoolfreak wrote:

Drinking is a problem in this country but the problem exists accross all age groups and the younger generation are no worse than any other generation.

Bollocks. The evidence suggests otherwise. Do you read the newspapers?

thecoolfreak wrote:

Also, blaming the government for this problem is pathetic. There are a few things they could do to help the problem, ie stop selling of alcohol in petrol stations. But at the end of the day the only way we as a nation will ever solve this problem is if people start to cop themselves on and respect alcohol.

The government are the ones that have the power to implement change. The drinking problems we have are too culturally ingrained to be sorted out by the ordinary people. We need leadership from the top. Sadly they don't want to know.

lostexpectation

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Eh? He did the very opposite. He went to great pains to point out that there were a lot of decent young people.

i bet it went like this

Now there's a lot of decent young people. out there but.... im not ***** but

anyone actually figure that some guest dropped out, i remember paul reynolds was brought on on his own to fill in and talk about crime when tarantino didn't show up?


if only i could be paid for my random rants on a variety subjects eh spillane?

lostexpectation

CazX wrote: »

Pat was not appearing on the show to boost his career, he was merely using the show as an oulet to express his views on an issue that is of great concern to him. His words were honest and just and for them to be dismissed as anthing but proves an unfortunate attitude in this country of people failing to accept the harsh realities of our society. Saturday night Ireland is a term that can cover any night of the week and Saturday night Ireland is one of the greatest of our failures as a nation. I am not biased, I may be his daughter, but I am also a member of this Saturday night set and am not afraid to say to say that we greatly need to call for positive change should we take the mature choice to rectify this problem.

do you think being paid for personal waffley rants is a good profession for your father?

actually it would be good to compare with paul reynolds as fill in guest, paul reynolds is not my fav but he is professional journalist,specialising in crime, who researches and relays stories across society from the view point of many different people and not just his own opinion and spewed statistics and sources when he was on the late late that night.

lostexpectation

http://homepage.eircom.net/~templenoehomepage/patspillane/

just cos he has an audience with his sports coverage does not mean anybody should listne to anything he says on any other subject, his column has gone to his head.

thecoolfreak

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Eh? He did the very opposite. He went to great pains to point out that there were a lot of decent young people.



Bollocks. The evidence suggests otherwise. Do you read the newspapers?



The government are the ones that have the power to implement change. The drinking problems we have are too culturally ingrained to be sorted out by the ordinary people. We need leadership from the top. Sadly they don't want to know.

He said that there were a lot of young people who are good but who turn into animals on a Saturday night. He painted all young people with the same brush, which simply isn't correct. I myself, a 20 year old, don't drink and I know plenty of others who do likewise and for Spillane to clain that all young people turn into animals on a Saturday night is simply untrue.

The drinking culture is accross all age groups not just the youth. Where do you think the youth of today have learned this culture from? Its from their parents and older generations. They have grown up seeing people getting pissed out of their minds and so they think there is nothing wrong with it. The drinking problem is accross all age groups, however the media only pick on the younger crowd because thats where they can get their sensationalist headlines from.

The government can help solve the problem to a degree. But at the end of the day its up to the people of Ireland to mature and cop themselves on. If we, as a nation, don't do this then we'll never slove the drinking problem no matter what any government does.

CazX

Yes we have pub but it has been leased for the past 5 years therfore is out of our control. That said, he is promoting a change in attitudes and not abstinence. Your persistance to see his appearance as career motivated is an immature and cruel attack on his true motive- the mere desire to try and reach out to people with regard an issue that killed a local 18year old last week. This young man was a member of the football team that my father trains. Can you blame him for wanting to save another community from going through what ours has? If so then you are nothing more than a jealous ranter who has nothing better to do than blog about the Late Late Show....says alot about your Friday night really.....no wonder you feel unaffected by this

Sherifu

I think it'll take a lot more than the Late Late Show to change anyones attitude to drinking in Ireland.

bbability

Well I was at the show on Friday night and I have to say I found the whole thing quite interesting. Not every guest mind you was my cup of tea but in general it was an experience to see how the whole thing operates. Pat and the Late Late Show team were very pleasant to the audience before during and after the show. I'm sure his show is not getting the choice of guests it would like considering what Tuber's show is getting. I mean not one guest last night on Tubridy was launching a book but a total of 4 out of 7 guests were doing excatly that on The Late Late. That was hardly Pat's fault.
Pat Spilanne needed a sparing partner to have a good debate about a very serious issue that needs that type of national exposure. Perhaps his place was on Turbidy on Saturday. These are all decisions that are made by directors and producers. Maybe the Late Late team don't have that "pull" anymore within the ranks in Montrose. All in all I would encourage some critics here to go for the experience.

muletide

CazX wrote: »

Yes we have pub but it has been leased for the past 5 years therfore is out of our control. That said, he is promoting a change in attitudes and not abstinence. Your persistance to see his appearance as career motivated is an immature and cruel attack on his true motive- the mere desire to try and reach out to people with regard an issue that killed a local 18year old last week. This young man was a member of the football team that my father trains. Can you blame him for wanting to save another community from going through what ours has? If so then you are nothing more than a jealous ranter who has nothing better to do than blog about the Late Late Show....says alot about your Friday night really.....no wonder you feel unaffected by this

Hi, I believe it was myself who voiced concerns about your Dads motives. A couple of points on your above post. It is my belief that
this is just another quasi-celebrity using a public problem to boost their profile.

Now that I hear that he is a leaseholder on a pub just blows all his arguments out of the water. Why does he not make a gesture and sell up - donate the profits to some Rehab centre. Also I wonder does this pub, that provides an income to your family, stock Red Bull, has it ever sold drink to a drunk or undeage person, does it avail of extended opening hours on special occasions ?? If it is a GAA pub (assumption) - I am certain that it has seen many a young lad fall out of there after a big match. Seems to me that Saint Pat might be part of the problem

Dont call another users opinions immature and then slag off their life for sitting in on a Friday night - that just marks out your level of maturity. If you find other users opinions cruel and hurtful than can I suggest never visiting a discussion forum again

Also your question about my sad life sitting in on the PC on a Friday night - what would you suggest - go out drinking ?

kmick

Ill say it again - these low count posters raising threads about how good the Pat Kenny show is should be locked straight away. Pat Kenny is one of the worst TV presenters of our time and his show sinks to new lows of snoredom every week.

muletide

kmick wrote: »

Ill say it again - these low count posters raising threads about how good the Pat Kenny show is should be locked straight away. Pat Kenny is one of the worst TV presenters of our time and his show sinks to new lows of snoredom every week.

Agreed, but like a moth to a light I am drawn to it every week despite much higher quality stuff on other channels. Even Al Murray has a more interesting talk show and thats saying something

oleras

kmick wrote: »

Ill say it again - these low count posters raising threads about how good the Pat Kenny show is should be locked straight away.

RTE spies ? lmao.... Paranoid much?:D

Mr.Nice Guy

thecoolfreak wrote: »

He said that there were a lot of young people who are good but who turn into animals on a Saturday night. He painted all young people with the same brush, which simply isn't correct. I myself, a 20 year old, don't drink and I know plenty of others who do likewise and for Spillane to clain that all young people turn into animals on a Saturday night is simply untrue.

He said 'some' young people turned into animals on a Saturday night which is quite true. He even mentioned how many of the people he teaches are good kids. I'm not a Spillane fan by any means but to say he tarred everyone with the same brush is inaccurate.

thecoolfreak wrote:

The drinking culture is accross all age groups not just the youth. Where do you think the youth of today have learned this culture from? Its from their parents and older generations. They have grown up seeing people getting pissed out of their minds and so they think there is nothing wrong with it. The drinking problem is accross all age groups, however the media only pick on the younger crowd because thats where they can get their sensationalist headlines from.

The government can help solve the problem to a degree. But at the end of the day its up to the people of Ireland to mature and cop themselves on. If we, as a nation, don't do this then we'll never slove the drinking problem no matter what any government does.

You are quite correct that the drinking culture is across all age groups so why then do you think it's up to to "the people of Ireland" to put an end to it. As you noted it's a cultural problem and as such it takes leadership from the top to alter this culture. That is where the government comes in.

We had a smoking culture in pubs and other public places and the government put a stop to it. Now I think it's high time they put a stop to the unacceptable levels of binge drinking that goes on in the country. If they don't then the drinking culture will go on for another generation and probably get even worse.

Sam Kade

Mccarrik or what ever his name is gave Kenny a nice dig about his court case. Did anyone listen to Mary Black singing? she sang like a crow. Is her voice gone or has she a throat infection?

kmick

oleras wrote: »

RTE spies ? lmao.... Paranoid much?:D

Here is the proof
1) The Late Late show is terrible
2) Boards users are discerning

Therefore no boards users would say the Late Late show is good.
We have had a tradition of very low post users making comments like

Mikosyko wrote: »

Has anyone watched this tonight? I Think John McCririck's debate was fascinating. He may be annoying, but he does speak some sense. Pat Spillane is on right now. I'm hooked!

Now I dont know about you but Pat Spillane and John McCririck are both derived from a gene pool which some would say should already be dead due to natural selection. However they are still alive and only do shows of the lowest calibre. Then this guy says he is hooked.

I smell a rat. Not a spy - a rat.

Sherifu

Can we get a shill check on aisle 5?

lostexpectation

CazX wrote: »

Yes we have pub but it has been leased for the past 5 years therfore is out of our control. That said, he is promoting a change in attitudes and not abstinence. Your persistance to see his appearance as career motivated is an immature and cruel attack on his true motive- the mere desire to try and reach out to people with regard an issue that killed a local 18year old last week. This young man was a member of the football team that my father trains. Can you blame him for wanting to save another community from going through what ours has? If so then you are nothing more than a jealous ranter who has nothing better to do than blog about the Late Late Show....says alot about your Friday night really.....no wonder you feel unaffected by this

yes i don't drink alcohol and somehow this is a bad thing? wow shows us your mindset but of course i go out see the drunken behaviour. i still reckon he was a fill in guest and that's why there nobody else was on the panel.

i don't think you a slot on the most prime time show on the channel should be left to some populist columnist ranting.

bbability

Didn't get lucky last week with the guests looking at the line up for tonight:rolleyes:

bishop brennan

God I haven't posted on boards in months and what do I find top of the TV forum again,The Late Late!!!
Seems people here love to hate it!!:D