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Real to offer £100 million for Ronaldo

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭Skud


    seems very suspect... not a lot of sites carrying the story. Sky did though... :D

    "apparently" madrid well willing to offer 80 million last summer for him and we turned it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Not a chance Ronaldo will move unless he falls out with Fergie big time.

    Seems like a PR stunt by the Madrid board to coax the Madrid fans into liking them by saying they'll get the big name players


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Boggles wrote: »
    Ronaldo will not fix Madrids problems anyway.

    Since when did the team's actual needs ever affect Real transfer policy? :p

    £100million? Real don't appear to have it so it's most likely political shenanigans, as usual with Real.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    quad_red wrote: »
    £100million? Real don't appear to have it

    What may i ask are you basing that on?
    They spent £80m in 07 whats to stop them spending that much again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    they can stick their £100m up their culos


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    As great as he is, if Real were actually dumb enough to make such a ludicrous bid (which I doubt) then United ought to take it and run.

    No player is worth such a ridiculous amount of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    As great as he is, if Real were actually dumb enough to make such a ludicrous bid (which I doubt) then United ought to take it and run.

    No player is worth such a ridiculous amount of money.
    united don't need the money though. who are they gonna buy to replace him, and if the replacement doesn't work out to be a success, then what's the point? they'd have to spend a similar amount on someone like Messi. it would be a complete waste of time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    If Nani has the same potential as Ronaldo did at the same age they would be fools to turn down any bid over 60m in my opinion.
    60m will buy 2 or 3 world class players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    Madrid should not be allowed spend 100million on Ronaldo, regardless of if he wants to leave etc, they are supposed to be broke/in debt etc, where would the competitiveness/fairness in letting them spend this type of money on a player.


    Re: Beckham, alot of people may have and be making money off him.......but i read somewhere few weeks ago that Eddie Irvine is still actually richer than him! Crazy stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    Eddie is worth £153m
    Beckham is worth £87m
    Not a bad return for being a #2 driver, twice the wealth of the best known sports man on earth.
    Putting it in context Tiger Woods is estimated to be making £100m a year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,595 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Beerlao wrote: »
    united don't need the money though. who are they gonna buy to replace him, and if the replacement doesn't work out to be a success, then what's the point? they'd have to spend a similar amount on someone like Messi. it would be a complete waste of time

    If I were to buy Messi I would insist on a full intensive tear him apart medical, anytime I sit down to watch Barc he is injured. I hope a talent like him is not Andertoned for his career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    IrishMike wrote: »
    Eddie is worth £153m
    Beckham is worth £87m
    Not a bad return for being a #2 driver, twice the wealth of the best known sports man on earth.
    Putting it in context Tiger Woods is estimated to be making £100m a year.
    Unreal, his house in Dalkey is better than anything iv ever seen on Cribs, absolutely savage.
    Fair play to him i guess, he done well.................im not jealous at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    Boggles wrote: »
    If I were to buy Messi I would insist on a full intensive tear him apart medical, anytime I sit down to watch Barc he is injured. I hope a talent like him is not Andertoned for his career.

    Maybe him and Saha could share the intensive care unit at Man Utd!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Real are broke, it's a stupid story.

    IMO Ronaldo is too good to sell. Guarnatees you a league challenge every year, he's 23. There's at least 7 more years of that. How much are Liverpool going to spend next season to become league challengers?

    Also he is too marketable. People think that doesn't matter, but Madrid were prepared to pay twice as much to get Beckham.

    Can't see Fergie selling him. Glaziers aren't in that much financial trouble. They just have a lot of debt, but they are servicing it effectively enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    The question is PHB, would Real be able to unsettle him enough that he wants to leave and go to them....if he wants to leave, he will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    PHB wrote: »
    Real are broke, it's a stupid story.

    IMO Ronaldo is too good to sell. Guarnatees you a league challenge every year, he's 23. There's at least 7 more years of that. How much are Liverpool going to spend next season to become league challengers?

    Also he is too marketable. People think that doesn't matter, but Madrid were prepared to pay twice as much to get Beckham.

    Can't see Fergie selling him. Glaziers aren't in that much financial trouble. They just have a lot of debt, but they are servicing it effectively enough.

    Sell Ronaldo for 100m hand Sir Alex 50m and put 50m in the back pocket.
    No matter how much money you have 50m is 50m and as you
    said many a time about the Liverpool speculation, clubs are now a business.
    All that motivates people like the Glaziers is profit.
    And Real have been broke more time than you can shake a stick at,
    doesnt stop them spending money like its going out of fashion though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    He'll choose based on trophies. United is much much better right now, and he knows it. Madrid are still a mess, and Ronaldo will be at Untied until at least Fergie leaves.

    Also, you couldn't buy somebody for 50 million to replace Ronaldos worth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,595 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    IrishMike wrote: »
    Sell Ronaldo for 100m hand Sir Alex 50m and put 50m in the back pocket.
    No matter how much money you have 50m is 50m and as you
    said many a time about the Liverpool speculation, clubs are now a business.
    All that motivates people like the Glaziers is profit.
    And Real have been broke more time than you can shake a stick at,
    doesnt stop them spending money like its going out of fashion though.

    Give Ferguson 50 million for himself or 50 million for transfers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Boggles wrote: »
    Wasn't there a huge dept of 200 million plus on the stadium and it was forgave? Or did I just make that up?

    Correct, the King of Spain wrote off a huge debt for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    PHB wrote: »
    He'll choose based on trophies. United is much much better right now, and he knows it. Madrid are still a mess, and Ronaldo will be at Untied until at least Fergie leaves.

    How are Madrid a mess? Won the league last season and 7 points clear this season in the league. If that's a mess, I would love to be in a mess


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Fergie would bite the hand of madrid if he was offered that money!
    Seriously 100M!

    I would sell. He is not going to get any better, Football is a fickle sport. One moment you are the king, 12 months later you end up like ronaldihno! (i remember here people were saying that he was better then Maradona, he cant even get his game now!)

    Sell him to buy again, United would be crazy not to.

    Anyway i heard that real and barca are trying to take advantage of a new Uefa ruling where by a club can buy out a contract of a player if it has 2 years left.

    C ronaldo wants to sign a new contract for 140K a week! if not then they risk losing him for a little over 10 Million. he is going to leave some day so why not not when his form is best?

    As i said football is a fickle sport! Fans would be crazy to think that he will be this good for the next 7 years. These things dont happen in football


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,595 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Unearthly wrote: »
    How are Madrid a mess? Won the league last season and 7 points clear this season in the league. If that's a mess, I would love to be in a mess

    Supposed to be the worst La Liga in recent times. They are 7 points clear with 7 loses and 3 draws, last year they won the league with 8 loses and 7 draws.

    They finished runners up in their CL group which was made up of 3 other very average teams, and were eliminated in the quarters by a poor Roma outfit.

    They have poor finances, although the King of Spain could rectifiy that with a wave of his Staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Also, you couldn't buy somebody for 50 million to replace Ronaldos worth

    There is no player you could buy to replace Ronaldo at Man Utd. However, that Glazers may look at it more pragmatically - can they sell Ronaldo for 100 million, spend 50 or 60 million on the likes of Alves, Diego, Silva or whoever, and still win the league and challenge for the Champions League? If so, it makes business sense to sell Ronaldo.

    I don't think it will happen though. Ronaldo has said (as recently as two years ago) that he wants to go to Madrid, but I doubt he'd move when he's playing in the best footballing team in the world. I also doubt Real would spend 100 million on him, when there are far more pressing concerns in their squad. Their strike force consists of an aging Van Nistelrooy, with Raul also clocking up the years, Saviola likely to move in the summer and Soldado not good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Madrid are a mess of a club :) Constantly changing managers, constantly changing presidents, constantly changing everything.
    Also they just took out something like a 30 million loan to cover their current expenses. They buy players they don't know, sign free transfers they'll never use, and in general are an absolute mess.
    They haven't challenged in the CL in years, and Roma knocked them out this year, Roma who United just beat 3-0 at a canter, without even playing Ronaldo!

    La Liga ain't that great in terms of competitiveness. They are 7 points clear, but they keeo ****ing up, it's just the other clubs **** up more.

    Any club that is willing to spend 100 million on one player are a bunch of absolute idiots. Even Chelsea wouldn't do that!!!
    While I think this story is a load of crap, it wouldn't surprise me to see Real do this. They are the Harchester United of the footballing world, a soap opera.

    As for United, if it was reinvested in the squad, even if only half of it was, it still wouldn't make business sense. He's too much of a marketing property. Beckham made back his transfer fee in something like 4 months. Ronaldo has that potential.

    Also, United aren't a selling club, and Fergie would never sanction it. And if he was overruled, he'd instantly resign imo. And then the club would be royally ****ed. Ronaldo is the one truly untouchable player at UNited.

    Until Ronaldo wants to go himself, he'll stay. When he goes, it'll be for a record transfer fee I think, beating Zidanes record.
    When will he go? I think he will go at the end of this teams cycle. When Carrick, Hargreaves, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra are all ending their careers, which will be in 3-4 years. At that age he'll be 27, Fergie will also defo be gone, and will then move on I'd say.

    He is not going to get any better

    Personally I think he is. I still think he has a good bit to add to his game, and I think he is working on it all the time.

    Ronaldinho imo is harshly done by in the current press, but Ronaldo has a desire and determination far beyond Ronaldinho ever had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    PHB wrote: »
    Madrid are a mess of a club :) Constantly changing managers, constantly changing presidents, constantly changing everything.
    Also they just took out something like a 30 million loan to cover their current expenses. They buy players they don't know, sign free transfers they'll never use, and in general are an absolute mess.

    Any examples?

    This is Madrid's transfers in for this season -
    Pepe D Brazil FC Porto
    Roberto Soldado F Spain Osasuna (Loan Return)
    Jerzy Dudek G Poland Liverpool (Free Transfer)
    Christoph Metzelder F Germany Borussia Dortmund (Free Transfer)
    Julio Baptista F Brazil Arsenal (Loan Return)
    Javier Balboa M Spain Racing (Loan Return)
    Royston Drenthe M Holland Feyenoord (14m Euros)
    Wesley Snijder M Holland Ajax (26m Euros)
    Arjen Robben M Holland Chelsea (36m Euros)
    Gabriel Heinze D Argentina Manchester United (12m Euros)

    Bunch of no-namers alright.

    And sure lets look at 2006/07 while we're at it -
    Reyes F Spain Arsenal
    Diarra M Mali Lyon
    Cannavaro D Italy Juventus
    Emerson M Brazil Juventus
    van Nistelrooy F Holland Manchester United
    Marcelo D Brazil Fluminese
    Fernando Gago M Argentina Boca Juniors
    Gonzalo Higuain F Argentina River Plate

    Heard of any of them?
    PHB wrote: »
    They haven't challenged in the CL in years, and Roma knocked them out this year, Roma who United just beat 3-0 at a canter, without even playing Ronaldo!

    Could say the same about United tbh. Aside from last year they haven't done much since 1999, even failing to get out of the group stages.
    PHB wrote: »
    La Liga ain't that great in terms of competitiveness. They are 7 points clear, but they keeo ****ing up, it's just the other clubs **** up more.

    Or it could be argued that the standard of teams in La Liga overall is better than the Premiership and it is therefore harder to win.
    PHB wrote: »
    Any club that is willing to spend 100 million on one player are a bunch of absolute idiots. Even Chelsea wouldn't do that!!!
    While I think this story is a load of crap, it wouldn't surprise me to see Real do this. They are the Harchester United of the footballing world, a soap opera.

    Maybe two or three years ago but certainly not now that the Galacticos are gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Any examples?

    Heard of any of them?

    Sorry, meant to say need. They buy players they don't even need.
    Could say the same about United tbh. Aside from last year they haven't done much since 1999, even failing to get out of the group stages.

    You could, except for the last 2 years, i.e. the current team, we've been knocked out by AC Milan, once in the semis, and are now going into the semis facing Barca.

    Also, to re-iterate, they just got knocked out by Roma, a team United beat at a canter.
    Or it could be argued that the standard of teams in La Liga overall is better than the Premiership and it is therefore harder to win.

    It could, but it'd be bull****. The reason Madrid keep dropping points is because their defence is a joke. It's why Roma beat them, because they are a very beatable team.
    Even Barcas defence is pretty average!
    Maybe two or three years ago but certainly not now that the Galacticos are gone.

    Yeh? They are linked with players for 100 million. They signed Saviola last year, for utterly no reason whatsoever!
    Their president was elected promising to sign Kaka Fabregas and Ronaldo. He has recently said he won't be able to sign anyone for the foreseeable future!

    They are a joke of a club. They don't think about money. Except this time it's going to **** them over, because the socialists are in charge, and the government won't be so eager to fund them by buying their training ground for an extortionate rate.

    Oh, and to top it off, they just fired Capello! After he won them the league. And it's not the first time they've done this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    PHB wrote: »
    Sorry, meant to say need. They buy players they don't even need.

    Fair enough.
    PHB wrote: »
    You could, except for the last 2 years, i.e. the current team, we've been knocked out by AC Milan, once in the semis, and are now going into the semis facing Barca.

    Also, to re-iterate, they just got knocked out by Roma, a team United beat at a canter.

    Who's to say that with Ronaldo on board that Madrid can't be where United are now in two years? They also have some quality young players in the likes of Gago, Sneijder, Robinho, Robben (when fit) etc. Ronaldo may be the piece of the puzzle needed.
    PHB wrote: »
    It could, but it'd be bull****. The reason Madrid keep dropping points is because their defence is a joke. It's why Roma beat them, because they are a very beatable team.
    Even Barcas defence is pretty average!

    Every team is a 'beatable' team in European competition. Roma had Totti when they played Madrid. They didn't when they played United and he is quite the tallisman. I'm not saying Roma would have won but it certainly would have made a difference.
    PHB wrote: »
    Yeh? They are linked with players for 100 million. They signed Saviola last year, for utterly no reason whatsoever!

    Saviola, imo, was signed based on the form of Raul last year and the year before. The guy was going through a rough spell and Madrid weren't to know that he was going to be as sensational as he has been this year. Plus Saviola cost nothing so where's the problem there?
    PHB wrote: »
    Their president was elected promising to sign Kaka Fabregas and Ronaldo. He has recently said he won't be able to sign anyone for the foreseeable future!

    Everybody makes promises when they're trying to be elected, no matter what presidential race it is. Kaka and Fabregas were never going to go and chances are ornaldo won't either. Fans like when clubs talk to the talk and as long as the team keeps winning La Liga those same fans will be happy.
    PHB wrote: »
    They are a joke of a club. They don't think about money. Except this time it's going to **** them over, because the socialists are in charge, and the government won't be so eager to fund them by buying their training ground for an extortionate rate.

    Why would they when they know that their debts will be cleared for them anyway?
    PHB wrote: »
    Oh, and to top it off, they just fired Capello! After he won them the league. And it's not the first time they've done this!

    Hasn't really affected them in the league though has it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    eZe^ wrote: »
    Correct, the King of Spain wrote off a huge debt for them.

    Its also against the law for Real to be relegated.Its in the constitution or something!!! anyway yea there not allowed be relegated from La Liga.

    The Royal family reguraly pumps money into madrid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I agree with jank. Football can be a fickle and cruel game. We've seen in the past how injuries have curtailed players in a big way. Imagine if Ronaldo - God forbid - was to suffer a severe Gascoigne-like injury that hampered him. From an Irish perspective we've seen how injuries have f*cked over Damien Duff in a big way too.

    That's why I think it's crazy to pin your hopes on one player. Hell, look at what happened to Eduardo.

    Any club willing to fork out £100m on a player are off their rocker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Boggles wrote: »
    Business analysis have predicted he will be more marketable than Tiger Woods, which isn't a bad prediction considering football is infinately larger than the golf market will ever be.

    Really ? Those business analysts can predict almost anything these days it seems.
    Tiger Woods is in a league of his own.
    The golf equipment market is the largest of any sports market in the world.


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