Change.ie

muckwarrior

New website on climate change and such. Perhaps it could be added to the sticky?

ircoha

There is nothing on the site to identify who they are and what purpose they are serving other than being self serving.

1890 CHANGE / 1890 242643 free of charge.

since when is a 1890 number been free?

muckwarrior

ircoha wrote: »

There is nothing on the site to identify who they are and what purpose they are serving other than being self serving.

Department of the Environment http://www.change.ie/en/Footer/Terms--Conditions/

Also, I would assume the purpose they are serving is to try and make people more aware about their carbon footprint, and climate change issues in general.

sarahirl

"Greenhouse gas emissions in the country have since stabilised but are not showing any downward trend to meet our Kyoto target. For Ireland to reach its target by 2012, the government has set aside €270 million for investment in flexible mechanism projects allowing Ireland to purchase 3.6 million other units for each of the 5 years in the Kyoto period 2008-2012.

Based on the EU goal to reduce emissions by 20% of 1990 levels by 2020, Ireland will have to play a greater role in the new “effort sharing” agreement that was presented in January 2008 for consultation.

Any future target will require partnership between government departments, business, industry and the community if Ireland is to achieve these goals. "

stabilised - what as in stabilised their growth upwards?
€270m is what they've set aside, what they pay is going to be very different
"effort sharing" agreement - what's this? sticking gas masks on cows?

where what and the other?

it's a nice initiative that i'm sure the government spent a ball of money on, but wouldn't it be wiser to use some of the campaigns already out there? there are so many campaigns out there telling us what we should be doing, join forces? eh anyway back to studying habitat protection - save the bunnies!

AngryHippie

cows don't need gas masks, they need butt plugs. or some form of gas capturing device......They're workin on that in teagasc, they've got a real cow with a window in her stomach, and a mechanical cow, But nobody has figured out how to catch a fart yet.....I've heard sucking works though.:D

sarahirl

erm yeah thought cows belching was the issue, not cows farting....

also rps engineers are behind the wonderful new website... they were also behind the waste campaign which produced loads of waste from all the fliers n promo stuff

engineers = environmentalists ???

AngryHippie

Its about 50/50:D

Engineers are no bloody environmentalists, they just know exactly how much they have to do to avoid environmentalists being able to sue them on behalf of the flora and fauna. To be fair though, they do some good work with regard to drainage schemes environmental impact reduction, Without Engineers there would be no fish left in any of our waterways, they've been the ones with their fingers on the button for a good few years there, with a little dig in the kidneys from the EPA when necessary :rolleyes:

But believe me, they are the very ones who will find a way around the regulations if there is enough wedge in it for them.:eek:

maniac101

AngryHippie wrote: »

cows don't need gas masks, they need butt plugs. or some form of gas capturing device......They're workin on that in teagasc, they've got a real cow with a window in her stomach, and a mechanical cow, But nobody has figured out how to catch a fart yet.....I've heard sucking works though.:D

Most of the methane is released through the amimal's head. Teagasc are doing some work on testing a variety of animal feeds to see how the diet might reduce the amount of methane. Still the primary methods for methane reduction remain reducing the size of the national herd and increasing the 'productivity' of the animal. It goes without saying that the best way an individual can reduce the amount of greenhouse gases associated with farming is to eat less meat, or give it up eating it altogether.

Engineers are no bloody environmentalists

What profession does an environmentalist need to be?

sarahirl

environmentalists can make a carrer out of being an environmentalist.. at least i hope so, that's what i'm studying

maniac101

sarahirl wrote: »

environmentalists can make a carrer out of being an environmentalist.. at least i hope so, that's what i'm studying

My question was rhetorical and in response to AngryHippie's implication that the terms engineer and environmentalist were somehow mutually exclusive. I go along with the Oxford English dictionary's simple definition of the term environmentalist, which is 'a person who is concerned with the protection of the environment'. To suggest that an engineer can't be environmentalist is as ridiculous as to assert that a doctor, bus driver or farm labourer can't be one. I'd make the point that no qualification is needed to have a concern for environmental issues, nor does any particular qualification preclude one from being an environmentalist. Environmentalism is not the preserve of the educated, although you'll appreciate that a good education can sometimes help inform one of environmental issues.

I'm guessing that you're taking a course in Environmental Studies or Environmental Management rather than in environmentalism. Many graduates with these qualifications do put their knowledge to good use in the protection of the environment. But, perhaps analogous to AngryHippie's experience of engineers, I've come across quite a few environmental scientists who were employed either to compile less-than-truthful Environmental Impact Statements for proposed developments that had a negative impact on the environment, or were in the employment of waste management companies with questionable waste disposal practices. Given that you're clearly are motivated by a concern for the environment, I'm sure you won't go down that route. Good luck with your studies anyway.

thebigshot

sarahirl wrote: »

environmentalists can make a carrer out of being an environmentalist.. at least i hope so, that's what i'm studying

Of course you can, so long as you are willing to go along with whatever lies the big foundations/government want you to support.

For example global warming. carbon output.

Tell the truth and you won't last long.

On the change.ie website there is a post you comments section, I suggest everyone who can see through the scam to post a few comments.

clarkey2008

sarahirl wrote: »

environmentalists can make a carrer out of being an environmentalist.. at least i hope so, that's what i'm studying

So you'll run along with any scare tactic in this green revolution because it will keep you in a job.

sarahirl

maniac101 - thanks for the comments. i'm studying environmental management where the aim is to put us into jobs doing EIS. although you do get the sense that if you're an ecologist who can't find much you'll be better paid than an ecologist who will do a thorough, honest and professional job. not much interested in going that route myself, might end up in big business seeing how firms can have less environmental impacts...

to the other two delightful comments ridiculing my choice in career... a big fat whatever ya want to believe in, the world is more interesting when people don't always agree