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Will anyone boycott the 2012 London Olympics?

  • 07-04-2008 9:26pm
    #1
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,786 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    In 1976 28 countries boycotted the Olympics in Montreal due to the participation of New Zealand: New Zealand's rugby union team continued to play rugby with South Africa.

    In 1980, 62 Countries and regions took part in the US led boycott of the Olympic Games, in protest of the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan(!!!).

    We hear all the rigmarole about China in Tibet, (but we continue to trade freely and instead ask our athletes and politicians (i.e. someone else!) to do our dirty work). But the UK are part of the illegal invasion of Iraq, they are part of the occupying forces in Afghanistan etc. etc.

    Will there be any murmurs of discontent in the run up to London 2012?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Yes. I mean no. What was the question again?

    Oh yeah. I will, I've boycotted every one so far and don't intend to stop now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    There is enough hassle being caused by this years olympics, why not wait a while before wondering about 2012?

    May I suggest waiting about, I dunno, three or four years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Dyflin wrote: »
    In 1976 28 countries boycotted the Olympics in Montreal due to the participation of New Zealand: New Zealand's rugby union team continued to play rugby with South Africa.

    In 1980, 62 Countries and regions took part in the US led boycott of the Olympic Games, in protest of the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan(!!!).

    We hear all the rigmarole about China in Tibet, (but we continue to trade freely and instead ask our athletes and politicians (i.e. someone else!) to do our dirty work). But the UK are part of the illegal invasion of Iraq, they are part of the occupying forces in Afghanistan etc. etc.

    Will there be any murmurs of discontent in the run up to London 2012?

    Its already being discussed in the mainstream US Media already. Im sure theyve swept 1980 under the rug though. I love good Irony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    normally i boycott the olympics but ill change this year :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Absolutely - 100%

    Unless I get some free tickets or something, in that case, no.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,413 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    normally i boycott the olympics but ill change this year :P

    I usually boycott them too but if everyone else boyvotts this year I'm entering myself into the high jump. Reckon I could take on the best the Chinese have to offer, asusming my sterotype of Chinese people being midgets is correct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Why? Don't you mean this years? Can't see any problems with London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Collie D wrote: »
    I usually boycott them too but if everyone else boyvotts this year I'm entering myself into the high jump. Reckon I could take on the best the Chinese have to offer, asusming my sterotype of Chinese people being midgets is correct
    Yep, they're all greasy haired, squinty eyed flied lice eating yellow skinned midgets, think I'd take them in boxing too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    Unless they do something really bad close to 2012, then no, it won't be an issue.

    The whole idea of boycotting the olympics is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I think all politicians should boycott all Olympics. More seats for the rest of us then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Of course not. Cause, ya know, like, Britain's part of the coalition. And they're the goodies.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Im in. Mainly because of the iraq point you made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    Dyflin wrote: »
    But the UK are part of the illegal invasion of Iraq, they are part of the occupying forces in Afghanistan etc. etc.

    Will there be any murmurs of discontent in the run up to London 2012?

    Iraq?

    You rate a 5 year war over 800 years of Catholic children having their eyes held open by British soldiers and forced to watch Rangers classic match DVDs? For shaaaammmeeee.


    *sticks on some Wolfe Tones*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭JIZZLORD


    you cant take the olympics away from me.
    where else shall i get my fix of synchronised diving?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭WooPeeA


    Sport should be beyond politics. Especialy the Olympics.

    Sportsmen are working for life just to be there. We shouldn't take their chance away.. Think of all those young people who wants to represent their nations and play fair. Sport should be beyond politics.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    Sport should be beyond politics. Especialy the Olympics.

    Sportsmen are working for life just to be there. We shouldn't take their chance away.. Think of all those young people who wants to represent their nations and play fair. Sport should be beyond politics.

    I absolutely agree.

    While I can see some countries boycotting China this year, but the idea of any countries boycotting London 2012 is ridiculous, outside one or two radical ones who attempt to make a point of course.

    Who's going to show solidarity with Iraq anyway like...? And in 4 years if it's not all over and done with then it'll just seem to be more normal anyway and people will have stopped caring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Hanley wrote: »
    I absolutely agree.

    While I can see some countries boycotting China this year, but the idea of any countries boycotting London 2012 is ridiculous, outside one or two radical ones who attempt to make a point of course.

    Who's going to show solidarity with Iraq anyway like...? And in 4 years if it's not all over and done with then it'll just seem to be more normal anyway and people will have stopped caring.
    I don't

    These athletes might miss out on a chance to compete in the Olympics. Some will still be around in 4 years, others will never get a chance to compete in an Olympics and will have to stick to World/European Championships etc. All those years of training and dreaming shattered...

    Tibetans are tortured, electrocuted, executed, sterilised on a daily basis for even promoting a free Tibet. Do a search for a video which shows a Tibetan girl shot dead by the Chinese army as she tries to flee Tibet through the Himalayas

    Who is in a worse position? The Tibetan people or the athletes

    The Olympics is all about politics, more importantly it is an opportunity to both highlight the plight of Tibetans in Tibet, and pressurise China into change. Shattering athletes dreams is a small price to pay for stopping the torture and execution of innocent Tibetans


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    I don't

    These athletes might miss out on a chance to compete in the Olympics. Some will still be around in 4 years, others will never get a chance to compete in an Olympics and will have to stick to World/European Championships etc. All those years of training and dreaming shattered...

    Tibetans are tortured, electrocuted, executed, sterilised on a daily basis for even promoting a free Tibet. Do a search for a video which shows a Tibetan girl shot dead by the Chinese army as she tries to flee Tibet through the Himalayas

    Who is in a worse position? The Tibetan people or the athletes

    The Olympics is all about politics, more importantly it is an opportunity to both highlight the plight of Tibetans in Tibet, and pressurise China into change. Shattering athletes dreams is a small price to pay for stopping the torture and execution of innocent Tibetans

    Eh since when did it become "athletes -v- Tibetans"??

    It's all very nice to feel sorry for the terrible plight that these people have to endure, but to think boycotting the Olympics will solve anything is laughable.

    The Olympic games should not be seen as a vehicle for political change. They come around every 4 years and some athletes only ever have one shot at them, one shot having spent maybe 25 or 30 years of their life training for this moment. Should that be taken away from them to try and solve a political situation? fcuk no.

    If the west really wanted to pressure China they'd just stop trading with them. It'd be a hell of a lot more effective. But I guess we don't care enough about hte Tibetans to give up our access to cheap clothes, electronics and high priced exports that they pay us for.

    Boycotting the olympics isn't going to solve anything, and to be quite honest I think it's an extremely sensationalist approach and one which is best reserved for those who don't want to look at pragmatic and potentially more effective course of action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    I will be watching the Olympics faithfully, as a friend of mine - barring a U.S. boycott, which is unlikely, and injury to her - will be competing.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Due to the participation of NZ? What did they ever do wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭WooPeeA


    CantGetNoSleep, sport is not supporting tortures. And sport is not against. Sport is sport.

    The Olympics is good business but believe me, it's nothing comparing to the Chinese yearly economy income..

    Do you know what is the biggest support for them? It's all stuff "Made in China" that we buy everyday. Chinese cars, Chinese electronics, Chinese cheap clothes.. They are making good money on all of us.

    So maybe it's better to boycott "Made in China" than all those people of sport? Don't you think it would be much harder hit than boycott the Olympics?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    CantGetNoSleep, sport is not supporting tortures. And sport is not against. Sport is sport.

    The Olympics is good business but believe me, it's nothing comparing to the Chinese yearly economy income..

    Do you know what is the biggest support for them? It's all stuff "Made in China" that we buy everyday. Chinese cars, Chinese electronics, Chinese cheap clothes.. They are making good money on all of us.

    So maybe it's better to boycott "Made in China" than all those people of sport? Don't you think it would be much harder hit than boycott the Olympics?

    Wow... I'm shocked. An intelligent response.

    And before anyone else responds, unless you own no goods that have come out of China, you're in no position to talk, because you, yes YOU are an implicit party in all of this.

    I don't think the olympics should be boycotted. I do think the Tibetans are getting a rough time. I do something should be done about it. But I honestly don't care enough to stop availing of items produced by the Chinese economy.

    It might be a bad attitude to have, but at least I'm honest with myself and don't try to make my lack of action all the more bearable to myself by supporting sensationalist manevours that are at best idealistic and at worst totally misguided.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    I hope to go to the Olympics in London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Due to the participation of NZ? What did they ever do wrong?

    New Zealand's national rugby team continued to play rugby with South Africa, which had been banned from the Olympics since 1964 due to its apartheid policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Dyflin wrote: »
    In 1976 28 countries boycotted the Olympics in Montreal due to the participation of New Zealand: New Zealand's rugby union team continued to play rugby with South Africa.

    In 1980, 62 Countries and regions took part in the US led boycott of the Olympic Games, in protest of the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan(!!!).

    We hear all the rigmarole about China in Tibet, (but we continue to trade freely and instead ask our athletes and politicians (i.e. someone else!) to do our dirty work). But the UK are part of the illegal invasion of Iraq, they are part of the occupying forces in Afghanistan etc. etc.

    Will there be any murmurs of discontent in the run up to London 2012?

    P.S. You forgot the Soviet led boycott of the 1984 Olympics. 14 countries boycotted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 209 ✭✭JavaBear


    i <3 china


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Leave politics out of sports!

    One country that may boycott 2012 London Olympics would be Argentina, cause of the mini-war they fought over the islands in the south Atlantic (what the Brits call the Falklands)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,811 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Hanley wrote: »

    If the west really wanted to pressure China they'd just stop trading with them. It'd be a hell of a lot more effective. But I guess we don't care enough about hte Tibetans to give up our access to cheap clothes, electronics and high priced exports that they pay us for.
    .

    america going down the economic crapper and taking most of the world with it wouldn't help anyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I won't be going to any Olympic games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    hmmm how many of you people are willing to give up chinese takeaways too?

    try telling me that on my way home from the pub on friday night!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peteee


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    So maybe it's better to boycott "Made in China" than all those people of sport? Don't you think it would be much harder hit than boycott the Olympics?

    As well as flush the world economy down the ****ter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    I think we should boycott the 2012 London Olympics, not only for the illegal invasion on Iraq but for the countless crimes commited by the Brits down through the years. If the world stood up and said that invading other countrys is unacceptable than maby they might think next time they want to invade another country i.e Iran.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


    Hanley wrote: »
    Wow... I'm shocked. An intelligent response.

    And before anyone else responds, unless you own no goods that have come out of China, you're in no position to talk, because you, yes YOU are an implicit party in all of this.

    I don't think the olympics should be boycotted. I do think the Tibetans are getting a rough time. I do something should be done about it. But I honestly don't care enough to stop availing of items produced by the Chinese economy.

    It might be a bad attitude to have, but at least I'm honest with myself and don't try to make my lack of action all the more bearable to myself by supporting sensationalist manevours that are at best idealistic and at worst totally misguided.

    Same here.
    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    I hope to go to the Olympics in London.

    Same here



    On the wider question, sport is not above politics. It never was and never will. The GAA came about as a semi political organisation. Also politics in sport is epidemic you will find more back stabbing in the IOC or Fifa than any Fianna Fail Ard Fheis. If people want to use the Olympics to make a political statement by not competing let them. Just don't force them to do it.

    However it is ludicrous to say boycott 2012. Britain have as good as pulled out of Iraq and since you can't change the past there is no point in protesting. If that was the case us, India, America and half of Europe would pull out over the sh1t the English done to us over the years. But we don't cos we've moved past that


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,786 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    kevmy wrote: »
    Britain have as good as pulled out of Iraq

    Really? clicky

    And they're sending more troops to Afghanistan clicky


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    From the Olympics homepage:
    The Games have always brought people together in peace to respect universal moral principles.

    Holding the Olympics in a country that is openly acting against the principles of the Olympics is just hypocritical. Boycotting it is one way of protesting against it. Claiming that it's not a valid protest unless you boycott everything Chinese is idiotic. One protest is as good as another. The point is to get the message across, not to financially cripple the people of that country. It can be by a big gesture or a little gesture, just as long as you try.

    Personally, I won't be watching the Olympics as I've no interest in them and there's bound to be better things on tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    Any country that boycotts this is incredibly foolish. China will soon rule the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    Any country that boycotts this is incredibly foolish. China will soon rule the world.

    And good luck to them I say. I doubt they will be as bad as the US, who could be!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    And good luck to them I say. I doubt they will be as bad as the US, who could be!
    Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭WooPeeA


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    And good luck to them I say. I doubt they will be as bad as the US, who could be!
    Trust me, you don't wanna live in the world ruled by the communists..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    I think we should boycott the 2012 London Olympics, not only for the illegal invasion on Iraq but for the countless crimes commited by the Brits down through the years. If the world stood up and said that invading other countrys is unacceptable than maby they might think next time they want to invade another country i.e Iran.
    mate you are hilarious!! :pac::pac::pac:

    especially if anyone here has read what you've had to say in this thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055270456

    to sum up he pretty much says: "all these protestors are d!cks. why are they protesting about China abusing Tibet when there's worse stuff going on in the world"

    and in this one you're saying "yeah boycott the london olympics cos the UK invaded Iraq"

    classic stuff mate!! love it! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    Beerlao wrote: »
    mate you are hilarious!! :pac::pac::pac:

    especially if anyone here has read what you've had to say in this thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055270456

    to sum up he pretty much says: "all these protestors are d!cks. why are they protesting about China abusing Tibet when there's worse stuff going on in the world"

    and in this one you're saying "yeah boycott the london olympics cos the UK invaded Iraq"

    classic stuff mate!! love it! :D

    Glad you love it!! Are you English?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    Yep, they're all greasy haired, squinty eyed flied lice eating yellow skinned midgets, think I'd take them in boxing too
    Collie D wrote: »
    I usually boycott them too but if everyone else boyvotts this year I'm entering myself into the high jump. Reckon I could take on the best the Chinese have to offer, asusming my sterotype of Chinese people being midgets is correct


    now if these are jokes ,they are bad ones,bad enough to get banned!cause' i dont even find them funny at all!extreme bad jokes not allowed in AH!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


    Dyflin wrote: »
    Really? clicky

    Considering they've already pulled out more than half their troops and most of the remainder are stationed at Basra airport as backup to the Iraqi police as well as the decision already been made to get the troops out as soon as the Iraqi commanders say so, I would say yes they are as good as pulled out. Also considering tht London Olympics is in 2012 they will 99.9% likely by completely pulled out leaving Iraq as a protestable issue in the past.
    Dyflin wrote: »
    And they're sending more troops to Afghanistan clicky

    Now, now don't confuse Afghanistan with Iraq. Two completely different situations. One had a UN mandate the other did not, one had overwhelming international support the other did not, one has been pretty successful the other has not, one has huge levels of popular support in country the other does not, one is controlled by the democratically elected government of the country the other is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Jigsaw


    I fully intend to boycott the Olympics. Tbh I don't have much chance of making the team anyway so I might as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Dyflin wrote: »
    But the UK are part of the illegal invasion of Iraq, they are part of the occupying forces in Afghanistan etc. etc.

    Will there be any murmurs of discontent in the run up to London 2012?

    And an illegal occupation of Ireland since the 13th century, least we forget..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    Glad you love it!! Are you English?
    absolutely not!! :D

    but what would that have to do with anything if i was? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭merrionsq


    If our next crop of athletes wear Air Max, tracksuits and Celtic tops, and enjoy drinking cans and shouting abuse at people outside chippers, then there is a definite possibility of a boycott!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭englander


    I say boycott all olympics - its all just a bit boring for me. Although if there is a day off in the offing anywhere - I'll be right behind the Olympics.

    By the way is Ireland sending any 'atheletes' or horses not doped up to the t!ts this time ?

    Try and play fair this time. OK ?

    Ireland for the best supporters in the World award again ?


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