intimidated men?

minishe

Ok so this may not be the most high brow of personal questions but hey her is goes.

why are men intimidated by women who like sport and are able to hold an intelligent and fairly in depth conversation about it. On more than one occassion Ive been out chatting with guys who bring up sport in conversation and the minute they realise you actually know what you are talking about they either look scared and run a mile or look at you in disgust - whats up with that.

Ok so I myt sound like a freak in that not only did I love playing sport but sometimes i like nothing better than watching sport on the telly for the weekend or going to a gaa match during the summer etc.

Come on guys - you cant have it all your own way - I mean ye expect women to go watch matches in the pub with ye at times but then they arent supposed to take an interest or know anything about it.

seriously what it the deal with it?

Nevyn

why are some men intimidated by women who like sport ?

I dont' know I never took the time to survey them all, but most certainly not all men are like that.

Seriously why do you care ?
Why are you that worried if they are reacting like that ?
Wouldn't you rather know that a guy is a closed minded person with a sterotypical view of a person based on thier gender early on ?
Sweeping generalisations of people due to gender is just so not sexy.

Talliesin

We're not. This isn't true at all. We're just bored by women who like sport because sport is utterly boring.

Unless of course what I've said isn't true either, because generalisations about what men are like or what women are like are always pointless and stupid.

Nah, it couldn't be. Where would we be if we couldn't say "men are..." and "women are..." and not consider that there might be more than two personalities shared between the six and a half billion people in the world.

Yep, all men must think exactly like me and all women must think exactly like you. All you women like sport and it just bores all us men.

darsar

I like when a girl shows an interest in sport and knows their stuff. However i did have an ex-girlfriend who once asked me if a goalkeeper catches a ball and falls over the line with it, is it still a goal

biko

Are you very aggressive and a know-it-all? This could be the reason they leave.

irish_boy90

try talking to diffrent guys. Maybe try talking to guys at sporting events they should have an interest if they are attending one.


but if you are interested in sports and talk to them about what YOU enjoy and they don't like it well then they would never be right for you anyway.

Wagon

biko wrote: »

Are you very aggressive and a know-it-all? This could be the reason they leave.

Yeah maybe you're a bitch? If a woman shows interest in something i like then i don't run away. But if she's aggressive or looks down her nose at me then i leg it.

minishe

sorry guys I should have said SOME guys / the ones I meet anyway and really didnt mean it as a sweeping genaralisation of all men.

I dont ack like a know it all (well i hope not anyway) cos I dont and I dont generally bring the subject up they do.


but you are right if a guy is that silly that he thinks women cant enjoy a game of soccer or understand the offside rule then he aint worth bothering about really.

Dublin though does have a tendancy to leave one with the impression that guys preferr girls who like to have indepth conversations about their hair, nails and clothes etc

ah well im going to stop this cynical rant now before i lose the plot altogether!!!

minishe

maybe I am!

but seriously wudnt you get annoyed if a guy said to you - youve great tits but i'm sure the most intelligent thing you have to say is ronaldo has nice legs.

Tragedy

Minishe, stop worrying about it and just enjoy being yourself. If they're frightened off or for some reason intimidated that you have a brain/personality, their loss - our gain

Wagon

minishe wrote: »

but seriously wudnt you get annoyed if a guy said to you - youve great tits but i'm sure the most intelligent thing you have to say is ronaldo has nice legs.

Yeah true, mainly because i haven't got breasts. Bastard.

Depends where you look I suppose. Or depends the lads that come and talk to you. I imagine you're an attractive looking lady who lads approach with a pre-decided stereotypical character pinned to you and then when you turn around and show them that you can be one of the lads so to speak, you surprise them with proper conversation that they haven't got a script for and scare them off. Like someone pointed out above, it's a useful way to weed out the gob****es do you ever approach blokes? If you do, how does that go?

Wibbs

Thaedydal wrote: »

why are some men intimidated by women who like sport ?

I dont' know I never took the time to survey them all, but most certainly not all men are like that.

Seriously why do you care ?
Why are you that worried if they are reacting like that ?
Wouldn't you rather know that a guy is a closed minded person with a sterotypical view of a person based on thier gender early on ?
Sweeping generalisations of people due to gender is just so not sexy.

and

Talliesin wrote:

We're not. This isn't true at all. We're just bored by women who like sport because sport is utterly boring.

Unless of course what I've said isn't true either, because generalisations about what men are like or what women are like are always pointless and stupid.

Nah, it couldn't be. Where would we be if we couldn't say "men are..." and "women are..." and not consider that there might be more than two personalities shared between the six and a half billion people in the world.

Yep, all men must think exactly like me and all women must think exactly like you. All you women like sport and it just bores all us men.

... pretty much nails it.

Nerin

minishe wrote: »

maybe I am!

but seriously wudnt you get annoyed if a guy said to you - youve great tits but i'm sure the most intelligent thing you have to say is ronaldo has nice legs.

lol i certainly would.
why worry about what an idiot like that says/thinks.
its been established that not all men are like that, so just see it as a filter, anyone who responds to your love of sport like that=not worth the hassle.
now you know. stupidity filter for the win.

wylo

Hi OP,
How come you use the word intimidated? Just because they mightnt find it too attractive doesnt mean their intimated.
I guess SOME guys like girly girls, and I dont mean blonde barbie types with no intellect, i just mean girls that have their own interests, none of which include sitting down with a bunch of lads watching the premiership with a pint in front of them.

It seems to me you have a very strong passion for sports, more so than most girls, maybe you should join supporters clubs etc and meet lads that have an even stronger passion and where its not unusual to really know your stuff.

jesus_thats_gre

minishe wrote: »

Ok so this may not be the most high brow of personal questions but hey her is goes.

why are men intimidated by women who like sport and are able to hold an intelligent and fairly in depth conversation about it. On more than one occassion Ive been out chatting with guys who bring up sport in conversation and the minute they realise you actually know what you are talking about they either look scared and run a mile or look at you in disgust - whats up with that.

Ok so I myt sound like a freak in that not only did I love playing sport but sometimes i like nothing better than watching sport on the telly for the weekend or going to a gaa match during the summer etc.

Come on guys - you cant have it all your own way - I mean ye expect women to go watch matches in the pub with ye at times but then they arent supposed to take an interest or know anything about it.

seriously what it the deal with it?

I see you have got the obligatory scolding by the locals^^^

Guys can get intimidated due to a multitude of reasons. Speaking personally, I often act different when around a girl that I am am not yet comfortable with but am extremely attracted to. Generally, that normally applies to when I first meet a girl and am instantly drawn to her looks. Saying that though, I have noticed it happening on a few rare occassions whereby I have found myself becoming attracted to a girl that I gradually found myself becoming attracted to after talking to her for some time.

I personally find a girl that can hold a conversation based around my interests (football, photography, games and so on) to be an extremely attractive quality. Saying that, it rarely happens and when it does, it always comes as a surprise and generally results in me becoming slightly intimidated.

Saying all that, I am only briefly intimidated and return to normal as I become increasingly comfortable with her.

I certainly don't react in the way that you describe though. Why you are getting the response that you are is anyones guess. It is obviously impossible for someone here to help you anymore than they have without knowing alot more about you. Am actually genuinely curious as to what is prompting the reactions. Out of curiosity, what type of lads are these?

Beelzebub

minishe wrote: »

maybe I am!

but seriously wudnt you get annoyed if a guy said to you - youve great tits but i'm sure the most intelligent thing you have to say is ronaldo has nice legs.

Someone actually said this to you?
If so, what an a**hole. How condescending of him and utterly unintelligent.
Best not to associate with these insecure, inconsiderate types.

dudara

OP, have you truly looked at how you appear to the opposite sex when in conversation? Men won't just run away from a pleasant conversation. Your opinion of yourself would be somehow offputting to me if I was male.

Marksie

I am wondering about the terminology "intimidated". Personally i would get bored if that was the sole topic of conversation. As indeed people would probably get bored (and do!) with me and my ramblings.

I have no problem with confident outgoing women. Aggressive types are a different matter perhaps.

I cannto see that this can be the sole issue or reason. So I am with Dudara on that.
I am wondreing how exactly its a PI as opposed to a general rant. THe first two posts from talleisin and Thaedydal summed it up. So if you are experiencing this with ALL men, then its not the sports, but something else.

Zulu

minishe wrote: »

why are men intimidated by women who like sport and are able to hold an intelligent and fairly in depth conversation about it. On more than one occassion Ive been out chatting with guys who bring up sport in conversation and the minute they realise you actually know what you are talking about they either look scared and run a mile or look at you in disgust - whats up with that.

Generally speaking, if I'm trying to chat someone up/impress someone and a conversation is raised to which they pull a blank face/scared look, I change the topic. I have found that strangers respond well in their comfort zones, so I try to keep the conversation there. It works well. Trying to prove to someone your superior knowledge of a subject, I find can put people off. Particularly if they aren't that interest in the first place, and mearly broached the topic in an attempt to start casual conversation or acknowledge an obvious passion.

Come on guys - you cant have it all your own way - I mean ye expect women to go watch matches in the pub with ye at times but then they arent supposed to take an interest or know anything about it.

To me it sounds like you could possible be quite a competitive person. Would any of your "in depth conversations" be described as "bordering on arguments" by your girlfriends? Perhaps you're trying too hard to shatter a stereotype? Over compensating? Some men don't like entering into a competition when chatting someone up - feels too much like an exam/scrutiny.

Just a taught.

Overheal

If a girl talks sporty to me I get totally lost. They have to talk nerdy

And agressive types definitely fail.

dudara

Zulu wrote: »

To me it sounds like you could possible be quite a competitive person. Would any of your "in depth conversations" be described as "bordering on arguments" by your girlfriends? Perhaps you're trying too hard to shatter a stereotype? Over compensating? Some men don't like entering into a competition when chatting someone up - feels too much like an exam/scrutiny.

Quite interesting thought here. I was in a wine bar last Friday, and two women and a man were sitting at the table adjacent to us. A debate kicked off between one of the women and the man about Bertie and political accountability. To be honest, it quickly turned from a debate into a strident loud rant from the woman, much to the embarrassment of her friend, who just buried herself in her chair.

Just bear in mind that how you deliver your thoughts is just as important as your thoughts.

astrofool

What sport is it specifically? Or sports? I could talk sports to people all day, gender doesn't come into it. Some sports might see some bias either way from people, especially if they're shown to know nothing about it (happens a lot in rugby for example, where people pretend to know a lot, but really know very little).

Also, some people get bent out of shape when a woman knows more than them, in this case, getting them to run a mile is the preferable response.

And as dudara^^ says, remember sport is 99% opinion, so always be prepared to take someone else's point of view (only the results are fact).

Dudess

If the guys you find yourself chatting to are the types who only want girls to be into girly bint stuff, don't bother chatting to said guys. Why would you anyway?

Dragan

minishe wrote: »

why are men intimidated by women who like sport and are able to hold an intelligent and fairly in depth conversation about it.

Try not making massive generalisations about people and you might be better of?

Nevyn

Yes but it's funny what is considered agressive behaviour from a woman is just considered male behaviour from a man.

Balmed Out

Think guys who like sport like it when a girl does too, things in common are always nice. I always prefer a girl to be into some sport or another even if its not necessarily the same ones im into.
I can only imagine that you have a very strong personality and can come across like your giving a lecture rather then engaging in a conversation. That is something guys can find intimidating.

Balmed Out

Thaedydal wrote: »

Yes but it's funny what is considered agressive behaviour from a woman is just considered male behaviour from a man.

Dont agree at all. Some people can come across as confrontational and when this is a women they sometimes seem to perceive some sort of sexism to be the reason behind negative reactions rather then any shortcomings they have themselves.

LegacyUser

Balmed Out wrote: »

Think guys who like sport like it when a girl does too, things in common are always nice. I always prefer a girl to be into some sport or another even if its not necessarily the same ones im into.
I can only imagine that you have a very strong personality and can come across like your giving a lecture rather then engaging in a conversation. That is something guys can find intimidating.

I'd be inclined to agree with that. I'm a laydee who loves sport, and I'm the one rushing my other half home to catch Match of the Day.

He's got me into the GAA too and likes the fact that I would prefer to watch sport than Desperate Housewives.

Maybe you're coming across too strong with guys. If I'm in male company and they're talking about footie I'll contribute without being aggressive. It's not a gender contest on who knows more.

If the guys you're meeting are being condescending, you're better off without them, no?

jesus_thats_gre

Thaedydal wrote: »

Yes but it's funny what is considered agressive behaviour from a woman is just considered male behaviour from a man.

Did you not just give bitch at the OP about generalising?

Nevyn

Balmed Out wrote: »

Dont agree at all. Some people can come across as confrontational and when this is a women they sometimes seem to perceive some sort of sexism to be the reason behind negative reactions rather then any shortcomings they have themselves.

Women are for the most part ment to be more passive then agressive and when a man puts a point across strongly he is not judged as badly for it as when a woman does.

Balmed Out

Thaedydal wrote: »

Women are for the most part ment to be more passive then agressive and when a man puts a point across strongly he is not judged as badly for it as when a woman does.

Disagree, i personally and i think most people have no prob with someone voicing opinions but do when they do it agressively regardless of sex.
Think some people like to lay blame on others doorsteps rather then looking at how they come across by imagining faults in others. Be it so and so is snobby / racist / sexist etc.
I dont think most people are very sexist these days. Im not saying i or any one else is without a little bit of sexism. For instance i think people farting with a high five look at me attitude is wrong but even more so when a girl does it.

St Bill

Men have it all, be it higher wages, better jobs or the ability to fart with a high five, look at me attitude

Overheal

St Bill wrote: »

Men have it all, be it higher wages, better jobs or the ability to fart with a high five, look at me attitude

All of which are only needed, because women have the deciding vote in all matters related to the bedroom.