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Do people these days respect housewives?

  • 04-04-2008 12:38pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭


    What do you think, is being a housewife these days seen as a valid career choice? Men, if your wife was a housewife, would you respect her as much as a woman who worked outside the home? Would you give her an allowance or let her spend as much as she saw fit? Would you prefer a housewife or a working wife, and do you think being a housewife is a less valid career choice if the couple don't have kids?

    Also, why do some men prefer to have a housewife, is it so he can be in control?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭LovelyTom


    Do people these days respect housewives?

    What kinda question is that?!! They ain't respected... maybe seen or lazy or just barely accepted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Feelgood


    Housewives are great fun, have lots of respect for them. Just make sure the husband doesn't catch you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Respected? Nope.
    Wouldn't marry someone who's life ambition is to be a housewife.
    If by some chance I did, they'd get an allowance.
    Definitely not a valid career choice if there's no kids involved, pure and utter laziness imo.
    Some men would prefer to have a housewife because it means they've to do absolutely no housework, have a hot meal ready when they come home etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i'm stroking my right nipple right now

    it feels pretty good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    Why do you think that is? I recently had an offer of marriage from my boyf, who was intent that I should be his housewife (even though I prefer to be independent.) He was controlling and I felt that he wanted me to stop working so that he could control me more (I dumped him, obv.) So some men I am sure do want housewives but I question their motives.

    Also religious people seem to approve of housewives alot more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    My wife is a housewife. I have enormous admiration for her giving up her career to look after HB Jr I & II. Long hours for poor pay (only joking - spends as she sees fit).

    Edit - To clarify: It was a joint decision. We knew we were going to start having kids as soon as we got married. We didn't want our kids to be in a creche all day while we worked & we could afford to get by on my wage.

    As for housewives with no kids. If you can afford it & both partners are happy with it - why not? Working shouldn't be the "be all & end all" of our lives. Unfortunately, it is an economic reality for most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Hill Billy wrote: »
    My wife is a housewife. I have enormous admiration for her giving up her career to look after HB Jr I & II. Long hours for poor pay (only joking - spends as she sees fit).

    Edit - To clarify: It was a joint decision. We knew we were going to start having kids as soon as we got married. We didn't want our kids to be in a creche all day while we worked & we could afford to get by on my wage.

    As for housewives with no kids. If you can afford it & both partners are happy with it - why not? Working shouldn't be the "be all & end all" of our lives. Unfortunately, it is an economic reality for most.
    Why should someone get a free ride in life?

    If my wife wanted to leave her job and become a housewife when there's no kids, I would turn her into my slave. She would not have a single minute free from 9-5 every day and she'd get an allowance once a week.

    The house would literally be sparkling at the end of the day, and a professional meal ready for me as I come in, or else there'd be major cut backs on the allowance.

    It's different when there's kids involved though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Only desperate ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Wouldn't bother me once I didn't have to do anything at home and we had enough money...lol @ the allowance idea....It's not 1954 anymore!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    Do blokes feel they have the upper hand and are "master" of the house when their wife stays at home?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I see nothing wrong with housewifes. Raising children and running a house is hard work that the woman will probably have to do anyway, so women can often end up having 2 jobs.

    Respect to the housewife.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Do blokes feel they have the upper hand and are "master" of the house when their wife stays at home?

    Absolutely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    One of my sisters was a housewife when her kids were young, now that they are somewhat older she's out working again. There's no reason that someone has to be pegged as one or the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    rb_ie wrote: »
    If my wife wanted to leave her job and become a housewife when there's no kids, I would turn her into my slave. She would not have a single minute free from 9-5 every day and she'd get an allowance once a week.

    The house would literally be sparkling at the end of the day, and a professional meal ready for me as I come in, or else there'd be major cut backs on the allowance.
    Until Mrs rb_ie cut back on your "sex allowance" & then the status quo would be resumed. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Hill Billy wrote: »
    Until Mrs rb_ie cut back on your "sex allowance" & then the status quo would be resumed. :)
    Nah just use the money I didn't give her on a hooker tbh. Problem solved.

    Men can live a while without sex and depend on masturbation, women can't live without money. Huge generalisation, I know, but holds true for a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Do blokes feel they have the upper hand and are "master" of the house when their wife stays at home?
    rb_ie wrote: »
    Absolutely.

    ROFL! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Do blokes feel they have the upper hand and are "master" of the house when their wife stays at home?
    I haven't ever seen that. In my own family and extended family I always got the feeling growing up that the woman was in charge of everything. Even when the man "laid down the law" he'd eventually have to give way because the woman knew everything there was to know about the family affairs, what they had, what they needed and what they could afford. Does the man ever turn around and say things like, we should paint this room, we need a new washing machine, we should really go visit this one or that one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I'm not married just yet btw, and I'm going out with a very career driven woman so I've no worries of her turning around some day and asking can she stay home and watch the soaps every day, while I go out and earn money for her to spend.

    Could be different with kids involved but without, no f*cking way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    If your wife earned more, when the kids came along, would any of you consider being househusbands?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    If your wife earned more, when the kids came along, would any of you consider being househusbands?
    If it weren't financially feasible to get a child minder then yeah.

    In one way it'd be cool to spend so much time with the kids but I don't like soaps, or spending ages on the phone to other househusbands and kids can get tedious after a while :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    If your wife earned more, when the kids came along, would any of you consider being househusbands?
    Darn tootin'! If I thought that Mrs Billy could rake in more than me I'd be happy to down tools & stay at home.

    Looking after the kids & cooking would not be a problem. But there’d have to be a few changes to the roles & responsibilities though…
    All clothes washing/drying/ironing would be sub-contracted to local laundrette.
    General housework (washing floors, vacuuming, dusting, cleaning bathroom, etc.) to be sub-contracted to hot young Latvian chick.
    If I could stay off the beer until, say, 3pm I would do the pick-ups from school. If not, there’s always the local taxi companies.

    Easy, peasy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 442 ✭✭Defenestrate


    What's going on? Who gave this wimmins access to a computer? :mad:


    ...On a serious note if there's kids to look after then someone has to stay at home. If you're gonna hire a nanny instead then why bother having kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭the GALL


    house husbands yea why not.
    I got a back injury and am out of work and even when my back is back to scratch i've been advised to change careers. So at the mo im doing a cousre and even when the coarse is finished ill be no were near the salary that my wife on. So it has been discussed at great lenght what the future will bring re: finances and children pretty scary stuff but were keeping an open practical mind on things.
    and I cant wait for the coffee mornings with the red head in no42;);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    If the wife can get a part time job for when the kids are in school everything is grand, but i dont think the house requires more than 2 hours a day cleaning. Well depending on the childrens ages too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    The blonde in no 69 is pretty Hawt to . ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Before his toast and tea - give him a good big plate of Cor-on flakes - no cooking, no messy washing up, eaten and digested like LIGHTNING! :D:pac:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    rb_ie wrote: »
    In one way it'd be cool to spend so much time with the kids but I don't like soaps...

    WTF? :D

    Like you HAVE to watch soaps if you're at home all day?

    I AM a HH, and I spend all day on boards. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I'd have no problems being a house husband, I hate work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Slow coach wrote: »
    WTF? :D

    Like you HAVE to watch soaps if you're at home all day?

    I AM a HH, and I spend all day on boards. :D
    Yeah, completely went off H&A when it started getting so far fetched it could have been an action movie :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    i don't understand. the wimmins iz in the kitchen so how can they be at work??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Hill Billy wrote: »
    My wife is a housewife. I have enormous admiration for her giving up her career to look after HB Jr I & II. Long hours for poor pay (only joking - spends as she sees fit).

    Edit - To clarify: It was a joint decision. We knew we were going to start having kids as soon as we got married. We didn't want our kids to be in a creche all day while we worked & we could afford to get by on my wage.

    As for housewives with no kids. If you can afford it & both partners are happy with it - why not? Working shouldn't be the "be all & end all" of our lives. Unfortunately, it is an economic reality for most.
    I completely and utterly agree with all of this!
    zuutroy wrote: »
    Wouldn't bother me once I didn't have to do anything at home and we had enough money...lol @ the allowance idea....It's not 1954 anymore!
    Totally agree with this too!
    Do blokes feel they have the upper hand and are "master" of the house when their wife stays at home?
    Er, no, I wouldn't view it that way at all...unless Mrs r3nu4l wants to play the whole master-slave thing of course, then it's okay ;)
    ScumLord wrote: »
    I see nothing wrong with housewifes. Raising children and running a house is hard work that the woman will probably have to do anyway, so women can often end up having 2 jobs.

    Respect to the housewife.
    Thumbs up for this idea!
    If your wife earned more, when the kids came along, would any of you consider being househusbands?
    Yup!

    If I earned enough then I'd be happy for Mrs r3nu4l to be a housewife/homekeeper/whateverthepctermforitisthesedays and I know she'd be happy too!

    /After Hours response:
    No respect, they're all fat and lazy, troll, troll...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    In my previous job, we had to get the occupation of our customers, choices were "Employed, Unemployed, Unemployed due to disability, Household Duties, Student etc etc"

    We used to get a great laugh at the women who put in "Employed" - "Housewife". Silly, silly women.

    'Course she'd be happy r3nu4l, she wouldn't have to work another day in her life. She'd in effect be retired nice and young.

    Won't be happening in my household unless herself somehow becomes unfit to work anyway, completely unacceptable imo (referring to couple without children again).

    Edit: Referring to a childless couple yet again, how could you have respect for someone who leeches off another person completely? Who gives up their financial independence altogether, to rely on someone else grinding out a hard days work to pay for their luxuries?
    I have absolutely no respect for those aspiring to be footballers wives, just as I have no respect for childless housewives. They're the same thing, in effect, except the amounts of cash are obviously much smaller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    rb_ie wrote: »
    'Course she'd be happy r3nu4l, she wouldn't have to work another day in her life. She'd in effect be retired nice and young.
    As would I! I'm sure, I'd look great in a frock too!
    (he says as if he hasn't tried it )
    <-<


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    As would I! I'm sure, I'd look great in a frock too!
    (he says as if he hasn't tried it )
    <-<
    Why would you be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    rb_ie wrote: »
    Why would you be?

    Why would I not be? :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    Why would I not be? :p
    'Cause you've someone living off you for the rest of their life, if you have a kid, thats two people living off you.

    You have to go out and work every single day to make the entire households money, whilst theres an able bodied (qualified?) person living with you who could be out earning money to pay half and enable the two of you to have more disposable income as a whole.

    I know this is going to sound scabby, but if I won the entire euromillions jackpot tomorrow, even though I'd never work again (or at least, not for anyone, owning a company is a different thing), I'd still never be with someone who felt they could give up working because they could leech the funding for their lifestyle off another person due to a turn of good luck.

    Similarly, if I got promoted to some position that earned a huge amount per year and my wife gave up work, she'd be out the door and not only jobless, but homeless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    rb_ie wrote: »
    Similarly, if I got promoted to some position that earned a huge amount per year and my wife gave up work, she'd be out the door and not only jobless, but homeless.

    I know what you're saying and I get your point but if you had a great job and you tried to put your wife out of the home, you'd find you'd may well lose the family home and a hefty portion of your salary in the courts.

    You earn mega money and all your wife has to do is say you promised to support her and BANG!-there goes half your salary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    rb_ie wrote: »

    I know this is going to sound scabby, but if I won the entire euromillions jackpot tomorrow, even though I'd never work again (or at least, not for anyone, owning a company is a different thing), I'd still never be with someone who felt they could give up working because they could leech the funding for their lifestyle off another person due to a turn of good luck.


    If you and your wife had been married and both working for several years and you won the lotto and quit work, would you expect your wife to carry on working?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    I respect housewives. My anecdotal evidence is that kids who don't go to creches are a lot happier, so I'm a supporter of someone (man or woman) staying at home with the kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    I dont respect or disrespect housewives. I think I feel kinda sorry for them. I wouldnt do it for diamonds because I hate both housework and children. I like working and I want a career and its not something I would personally sacrifice just to keep husband/kids happy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Nightwish wrote: »
    I want a career and its not something I would personally sacrifice just to keep husband/kids happy.

    I take it you're not going to have kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    rb_ie wrote: »
    I know this is going to sound scabby, but if I won the entire euromillions jackpot tomorrow, even though I'd never work again (or at least, not for anyone, owning a company is a different thing), I'd still never be with someone who felt they could give up working because they could leech the funding for their lifestyle off another person due to a turn of good luck.


    You're right - that does sound scabby.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Collie D wrote: »
    You're right - that does sound scabby.
    Meh, the only person/people I'll ever let live off me are my kids and my parents when they're old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    So would you swan off on exotic holidays with your newfound millions while the Mrs has to go to work every day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Unless my annual salary reaches 7 figures, I would never accept my wife to be a housewife with no kids. However, with kids, I find it totally acceptable, as I would want them minded by a parent more than a childminder/creche.

    I could see myself being a househusband though, should a parent ever have to stay at home to mind the kids. Luckily, my career path has possibilities (not many, but still some) to work from home if ever the situation demanded it, so I would still be contributing to the household finances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    If your wife won the lottery, quit work and expected you to carry on toiling away for a crust, wouldn't you be put out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Collie D wrote: »
    So would you swan off on exotic holidays with your newfound millions while the Mrs has to go to work every day?
    Nah as I said somewhere else, I'd busy myself opening my own business/investing or something. Can't just holiday for life afterall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    If your wife won the lottery, quit work and expected you to carry on toiling away for a crust, wouldn't you be put out?
    Wouldn't care tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    dublindude wrote: »
    I take it you're not going to have kids?

    Not a hope. Don't like the little leeches at all :)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    If your wife earned more, when the kids came along, would any of you consider being househusbands?

    House Husbands LMAO! i Think there just Gays Dyin to get out :D


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