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Vote for Analogue in the Smedias

  • 03-04-2008 8:15pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18


    Trinity's newest publication Analogue music magazine is up for the People's Choice Award in this years Student Media Awards. It's a public vote so it would be really great if you took the time to vote for Analogue. We're up against the likes of UCD, Queens, and UCC so we need all the support we can get!

    To vote register on oxygen.ie and vote here. It's takes two minutes.

    If you need convincing of why you should vote for Analogue, check out a pdf of the mag or some of our past interviews; Radiohead, LCD Soundsytem, Arcade Fire, Soulwax, CSS, Simian Mobile Disco, Final Fantasy...

    Thanks a million,
    Bren
    Editor


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Spam!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Analogue


    How is it Spam? It's a genuine post...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Voted for you guys already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Analogue


    thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    Boston wrote: »
    Spam!

    Not really. It's actually a savage mag and definitely deserves an oul' vote or two. I was actually gonna mention this myself.

    If any of you haven't seen the mag itself, here's a nice electronic version you can flick through online, as you can see it's as good or better than most commercial music magazines on the market (you can hardly even tell that it's a student publication).

    Oh and if you get a chance, check out their blog too. Some great stuff.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    It soliciting vote like this is definitely spam, and its cross posting on other forums as well which is specifically not allowed regardless of your interpretation of spam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭fiveone


    You'd swear they were the only tcd publication nominated..



    Didn't like the comments last issue bout Dublin electro. Getting a bit big for your boots guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭ilovemybrick


    lydonst wrote: »
    You'd swear they were the only tcd publication nominated..

    eh what? why would analogue ask for any other TCD publication's votes seeing as one of them is in the same category.
    lydonst wrote: »
    Didn't like the comments last issue bout Dublin electro. Getting a bit big for your boots guys

    It is a music magazine. Opinion get flung around. Thats how it works. Why not write to them or contribute to the magazine and have your say.


    Two very silly comments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭fiveone


    No music publication would ever say "all dublin electro is ****" in an editorial without backing it up. And I have written for Analogue, as well as various other publications in and outside of tcd so there's nothing silly about my comments, friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭AlexD


    Miscellany has also been nominated, seen as Analogue doesn't even intend to stay in Trinity next year I think they're more deserving of our vote.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭fiveone


    AlexD wrote: »
    Miscellany has also been nominated, seen as Analogue doesn't even intend to stay in Trinity next year I think they're more deserving of our vote.

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Awayindahils


    AlexD wrote: »
    Miscellany has also been nominated, seen as Analogue doesn't even intend to stay in Trinity next year I think they're more deserving of our vote.

    I'd rather vote for the better publication.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Analogue


    lydonst wrote: »
    No music publication would ever say "all dublin electro is ****" in an editorial without backing it up. And I have written for Analogue, as well as various other publications in and outside of tcd so there's nothing silly about my comments, friend.

    Eh that's not what I said. I said "most Irish electronic music is ****". Now I might have been a bit hasty in saying that but it's not the same as saying absolutely everything is crap.

    It's makes no difference if we're going to be in Trinity next year or not, Analogue is made up of Trinity writers and the award is about the last years worth of work.

    Thanks for your support people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭the flananator


    I think the magazine is pants. Won't be getting my vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Analogue


    Fair enough. any reason why you think it's pants?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭the flananator


    You took that better than I thought you would!

    Basically I feel its limited in the genres of music it covers; sure we all love a bit of Radiohead and LCD Soundsystem, but why shun hip-hop, mainstream rock etc. I find the mag a bit alienating really. Then again, just because I don't "get it" doesn't mean its pants I suppose. But I personally won't be voting for it. No offence! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭fiveone


    Bit of coverage on Irish scenes/bands etc. wouldn't go astray, and I don't just mean singer songwriter stuff. At the end of the day you want something individual about the mag, not just a rehash of pitchforks opinions. That's where it'll show whether you really know your stuff or not, because to call say all irish electro **** kind of just shows more ignorance and close-mindedness than insight.

    It's the only music publication in Dublin that has the potential to be really good so it would be a shame to see it ruined by getting too pretentious or not having its own voice, so to speak, e.g not just following whats in at the minute. I think those questions to Radiohead could have been put better, that feature kind of pissed me off - speaking for Dublin regarding ticket prices, basically calling Thom an idiot for his politics


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭xeduCat


    You took that better than I thought you would!

    Basically I feel its limited in the genres of music it covers; sure we all love a bit of Radiohead and LCD Soundsystem, but why shun hip-hop, mainstream rock etc. I find the mag a bit alienating really. Then again, just because I don't "get it" doesn't mean its pants I suppose. But I personally won't be voting for it. No offence! :)

    I think the idea is to recognise that there are already magazines doing a general-interest, across-the-spectrum thing (e.g. Hot Press, I suppose), and rather than competing with them, to address a different audience...but it's a debate that never goes away. For example, the Wire (a magazine I like) has been having an internal debate for years about how much 'mainstream' they should mention.

    @Analogue, do you see the format/coverage changing or staying the same as you go out into the big wide world?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Analogue


    lydonst wrote: »
    Bit of coverage on Irish scenes/bands etc. wouldn't go astray, and I don't just mean singer songwriter stuff. At the end of the day you want something individual about the mag, not just a rehash of pitchforks opinions. That's where it'll show whether you really know your stuff or not, because to call say all irish electro **** kind of just shows more ignorance and close-mindedness than insight.

    It's the only music publication in Dublin that has the potential to be really good so it would be a shame to see it ruined by getting too pretentious or not having its own voice, so to speak, e.g not just following whats in at the minute. I think those questions to Radiohead could have been put better, that feature kind of pissed me off - speaking for Dublin regarding ticket prices, basically calling Thom an idiot for his politics

    It's great to see disgruntled ex-writers stepping up to the plate to have a go.

    That Radiohead interview was really good, it was one of the only interviews where a journalist has had the balls to question them about ticket pricing and it was really topical at the time. Loads of people were questioning the prices and since we had an opportunity to speak on behalf of fans, we took it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭shay_562


    AlexD wrote:
    Miscellany has also been nominated, seen as Analogue doesn't even intend to stay in Trinity next year I think they're more deserving of our vote.
    Analogue wrote:
    It's makes no difference if we're going to be in Trinity next year or not, Analogue is made up of Trinity writers and the award is about the last years worth of work.

    But you can't deny that it's a tad disingenuous playing the "vote for us because we're a Trinity publication!" card while simultaneously hauling ass out of the place. Which isn't to say that I don't think it's a good magazine deserving of awards, but I'm not that happy with your vote-getting strategies, especially the ones that involve dismissing criticisms first as "silly comments" and then as the ravings of a disgruntled ex-writer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Analogue


    Today is the last day of voting so I'd appreciate it if you liked the magazine over the year, you'd take the time to vote.

    I didn't come here to start an argument and I have taken what people said on board ( apart from Lydons). Analogue isn't perfect by any means but we tried to do something a little different and some things worked and somethings didn't. Sure there's areas that we need to focus on more. Electro and dance seem to be ones most mentioned. And we will, eventually. Analogue is still only a young publication and it's still finding it's feet.

    If people feel strongly about us leaving Trinity, fine. Vote for Miscellany, they're just as deserving of the vote. But if you read Analogue and liked any of it, please vote for us.

    Cheers,
    Bren


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭fiveone


    Fingers crossed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭dan719


    Analogue wrote: »
    It's great to see disgruntled ex-writers stepping up to the plate to have a go.

    That Radiohead interview was really good, it was one of the only interviews where a journalist has had the balls to question them about ticket pricing and it was really topical at the time. Loads of people were questioning the prices and since we had an opportunity to speak on behalf of fans, we took it.


    I will quote, and am nor being antagonistic nor applying for a ban. A person I am doing my degree with is best friends with the person who did that interview
    , in utter disgust to the interview my classmate said....'he has known the questions he wanted to ask the band since he was twelve......the editor was nothing but a c*nt and demanded he be nothing but antagonistic and controversial.....it was basically a case of style over substance.........'

    thank god I didn't vote for a poorly produced ego trip of a magazine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Karlusss


    Haha, I am the person who did that interview, and that's not how it happened at all.

    I don't think I was even particularly antagonistic. The thing about ticket prices was being talked about a lot at the time, and it would have been worse by journalistic standards to avoid asking it. The interview in general wasn't an anti-Radiohead thing at all. I love Radiohead.

    I'd love to know which of my best friends said that, actually, out of curiosity. I think I could probably guess, haha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭fiveone


    Ok to be fair, the question about prices was justified. The thing is, you didn't exactly phrase it in the best way, and when it didn't work out you resorted to speaking for "Dublin" as you proceed to compare Thom Yorke to Bono.
    I don't know if you expected him to agree with you or what. Again, its a legitimate question, however wrong I personally think you are about it, but it really seemed like you went out of your way to be inflammatory and it came across very badly, especially in the context of the editorial comments. This isn't my isolated take on it by the way, in case you still think I'm being bitter or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Karlusss


    "still" - are you talking to me or to Bren?

    I might have messed up the wording of the question. I tried not to edit the transcript too much to save myself looking like a dickhead, because I didn't want to shift too much sh1t onto Phil. So being awkward about it might have been my fault. I'm not exactly an experienced hand at interviews.

    And in my defence, I know your interpretation isn't isolated, but in saying that the ticket price issue was something that had come up in Dublin at the time, that was not just something I made up. I have friends who are big fans who aren't going because of the price.

    Comparing Thom Yorke to Bono was a joke, and he took it as a joke at the time. If that came off bad or in some way connected to the tickets question, it wasn't supposed to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 jiminynuggets


    dan719 wrote: »
    the editor was nothing but a c*nt and demanded he be nothing but antagonistic and controversial.....it was basically a case of style over substance.........'

    thank god I didn't vote for a poorly produced ego trip of a magazine...

    Any chance this guy can be banned? he seems to be blatantly lying in order to be offensive, which is a bit sad. I voted for analogue, I think they've approached the whole thing with good intentions and come out with a decent product, that while being a bit rough round the edges is pretty impressive for a student publication. The design/illustration/print quality aspect of it is well done also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    Usually calling someone a c*nt would be personal abuse, but I think he's trying to get away with it by "quoting his classmate".

    Up to the mods really (but I'd have probably given him a week's ban).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Analogue


    Hey I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who voted for Analogue, We couldn't have won the People's Choice without you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    Analogue wrote: »
    Hey I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who voted for Analogue, We couldn't have won the People's Choice without you.
    More than welcome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    I have pictures of you guys on the night if you want them - [sulk] not award winning photographs [/sulk] but you might enjoy having some pictures of the night :)

    They'll be up on pix.ie/thirdfox soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Conorworld


    Ca I just say again thanks a million for everyone who voted for us last night. The night was great and a lot of fun and to win in the peoples choice meant so much to us.

    In response to a few posts, I think that we do need to broaden our musical palate and in time we will. We have spent the time so far establishing ourselves and I believe in time we can only get better.

    I don't think it was selfish in us asking for votes when we are moving out of Trinity. At this point in time we are a Trinity publication and the awards are for work done in the year so far. Student publications come and go, form, reform and/or disappear after even one issue. I think it is fair for publications like ourselves to be nominated and live in the student publication life while we still can.

    And about the statement that most Dublin electro is ****. Well its an opinion, possibly a strong one and it is up to you guys to rightly give your own opinion wether it is for or against it.

    So anyway again thanks a million for your votes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭AlexD


    Well done to the Analogue team, the magazine certainly had a high production standard, and although I only read one article, that was good.

    I was against the recgonition if by the Publications committee from the beginning though, I just felt it was a niche interest magazine - I overheard the editor specifically say not to generally distribute it in Freshers' week- and not a better replacement for InTransit, which was compleltey shafted last year.

    That having taken Trinity's money the team are walking away from college, without any attempt to give back, develop new writers or develop the publication beyond a few individuals demonstrates that I was right.

    This doesn't doubt the hard work, skill and talent that went into the magazine, or that winning an award was deserved, but that it should never have recived funding. You were selfish to ask for votes from Trinity. Congrulations though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Conorworld


    Thanks AlexD. Your reply was balanced and to the point. Nevertheless I must point out that the vast majority of the writers in Analogue are first time writers and are of course Trinity students to boot, including myself. I think that we have given many people an opportunity they would not have had before Analogue. After this year we will continue to do so. We want to give other people the opportunity we had as first time writers.

    Furthermore I find the concept of Analogue being a niche magazine a bit wrong. We are first and foremost a music magazine. This is just as much a niche as a travel or poetry magazine. Also we found that being a music magazine we had a broad spectrum of interested people and readers. You could argue that the music itself is niche in some respects however after 3 issues we are still establishing ourselves. Give us a years restpite at least and see.

    HOwever I do understand your point and is well noted. Thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭AlexD


    Conorworld wrote: »
    Thanks AlexD. Your reply was balanced and to the point. Nevertheless I must point out that the vast majority of the writers in Analogue are first time writers and are of course Trinity students to boot, including myself. I think that we have given many people an opportunity they would not have had before Analogue. After this year we will continue to do so. We want to give other people the opportunity we had as first time writers.

    Furthermore I find the concept of Analogue being a niche magazine a bit wrong. We are first and foremost a music magazine. This is just as much a niche as a travel or poetry magazine. Also we found that being a music magazine we had a broad spectrum of interested people and readers. You could argue that the music itself is niche in some respects however after 3 issues we are still establishing ourselves. Give us a years restpite at least and see.

    HOwever I do understand your point and is well noted. Thank you.

    True. I suppose you could think of it as a "campus company", best of luck next year and don't forget Trinitias when you're hiring interns/writers/designers etc!

    I probably still have the injustice of the Travel mag lingering in the back of my mind, but that's no reason to have ill will towards you guys.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Conorworld


    You know, I am a first year in Trinity so I never got to really experience InTransit. I got a copy of it a number of month back. Were you involved in it? It was great and a pity it isnt around again.
    Great photography.
    And no ill feelings back at you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭AlexD


    Conorworld wrote: »
    You know, I am a first year in Trinity so I never got to really experience InTransit. I got a copy of it a number of month back. Were you involved in it? It was great and a pity it isnt around again.
    Great photography.
    And no ill feelings back at you.

    Regret not writing something for it now, just thought that they did a great job getting if off the ground, it was a nice clean design, interesting articles and some nice pictures. Travel is also very popular with students now and college is great opportunity to do it


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