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mp5k

  • 01-04-2008 3:00pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭


    so ive decided to sell mp5 and get the mp5k big step up.... or down.:p

    I'm just wondering what kind of upgrades can be done to increase fps.

    any thoughts welcome?

    its the aeg mp5k on eirsoft.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    just the usual shim and bush and a high torque motor

    not forgetting the 9.6

    anyway i sound like i know what im talking about here

    vtec will explain things better to you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭seamus-2k7


    weeder wrote: »
    just the usual shim and bush and a high torque motor

    not forgetting the 9.6

    anyway i sound like i know what im talking about here

    vtec will explain things better to you



    would a 9.6 fit in that tiny thing???????:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭defenderdude


    seamus-2k7 wrote: »
    would a 9.6 fit in that tiny thing???????:eek:

    I have one and I dont think it would fit - the 8.4V stick battery is tight enough!!

    edit:
    That said, methinks there is a mod you can carry out to allow a 9.6V fit...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    If it has a shorter inner barrel you'll notice less accuracy anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭Beast ASI


    Fires at 320fps on the dot, and the hop unit is excellent.

    G&P m120 Motor
    9.6 Battery - You mod the cocking handle to fit.
    Fuse removal

    Best way to do it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭ben2k7


    theres a mod for the mp5 pdw where you can route the battery
    through the gun and back through the stock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    If it's a standard MP5K then it has no stock


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭ben2k7


    thats why i said pdw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    He doesn't have a PDW version though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭ben2k7


    zero19 wrote: »
    He doesn't have a PDW version though...

    we were talking about mp5 battery mods in general. i imediately thought about ALL mp5s!!! lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    well he actually hasnt got it yer if you read his post properly ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Well twas more of a contribution than i made lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    weeder wrote: »
    well he actually hasnt got it yer if you read his post properly ;)
    I blame the spyware pop up ballon in the corner of my screen appearing every five seconds coupled with an annoying 12 year old here in the sitting room.

    Urge to kill (Laptop) at maximum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭ben2k7


    lol......OK OK i was wrong lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭seamus-2k7


    how do i fit the 9.6 into the mp5k??
    is it hard to do:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭ben2k7


    i heard it being done with LOADS of tokyo maruis you need to remove the cocking lever and the fuse just tidy it up like


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    you have to cut the cocking handle thingy on the left side of the gun., remove it from the gun and chop the rear part off to allow another cell to fit in., im gonna do it myself and yet again i forgot to get the battery off tony.,
    if its gonna bwe a back up id reccomned lowering the FPS to the 250-260 mark and then a 9.6, and if you want to spend a bit more get a better motor., that will make one hell of a CQB gun.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭Beast ASI


    ben2k7 wrote: »
    i heard it being done with LOADS of tokyo maruis you need to remove the cocking lever and the fuse just tidy it up like

    Don't post wrong information, you don't need to remove the cocking lever, because then your missing a part of the gun.

    All you do is just cut the cocking handle just behind the actual handle part of it, so you have enough room to fit another cell in, it's a tight squeeze but it works.

    Removing the fuse is personal preference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭romperstomper


    is there much of a call to play cqb with lowered fps? with all the drama of (subject that won't be named), you now suggest under-clocking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭ben2k7


    arent a handle and lever the same??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    is there much of a call to play cqb with lowered fps? with all the drama of (subject that won't be named), you now suggest under-clocking?

    well most of the shooting will be done close quarters as per the name,

    lowering the fps would be appreciated by the person being shot as they

    would be hurt more by a rifle just on the joule than by one coming in at 200

    fps, no need for a rifle firing 328 when all the shooting will be up close, gun

    firing 200 would be fine for just cqb



    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭Beast ASI


    ben2k7 wrote: »
    arent a handle and lever the same??

    What I mean by that is the Cocking handle is the whole thing, but the lever the bit that you pull. You cut just behind that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭romperstomper


    so on top of the 1J rule for open play, there is a 0.7J rule for CQB?

    considering the quality of vests/helmets i wouldn't have thought it would have been an issue.

    i was PLASTERED from 6ft away in the bus in HRTA (at least 50 rounds). bit sore at the time, but it certainly wasn't anything worse than getting hit with a ball kicked hard from close range. i can't see the issue really,

    other odd thing is you advocate a higher V battery to increase the ROF. surely landing 15 shots on someone from close range is more painful than 10. pretty inconsistent.

    confused


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭seamus-2k7


    vtec
    could i have a look at yours when you do it. I dont want to go and start choppin up a new aeg and f it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    so on top of the 1J rule for open play, there is a 0.7J rule for CQB?

    considering the quality of vests/helmets i wouldn't have thought it would have been an issue.

    i was PLASTERED from 6ft away in the bus in HRTA (at least 50 rounds). bit sore at the time, but it certainly wasn't anything worse than getting hit with a ball kicked hard from close range. i can't see the issue really,

    other odd thing is you advocate a higher V battery to increase the ROF. surely landing 15 shots on someone from close range is more painful than 10. pretty inconsistent.

    confused

    the lower fps is not a rule, dont have to lower the fps, but if your going to be

    shot from 10 feet would you rather 1 joule or .7? and the quality of

    vest/helmets is irrelevant what happens if your shot in the face? painful with

    200 worse with 328. by all means play with a 1 joule rifle

    200 fps is plenty when a lot of the shooting will be done within 10-15 feet

    and i didnt advocate a higher voltage battery so you will have to direct that

    at the offender.

    i dont mind people playing with 1 joule rifles, but if someone wants to shoot me in cqb with a 200

    fps gun, fine :)

    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭seamus-2k7


    back on topic please:o
    just to clarify, i probly will cut the spring to lower fps:cool:
    can anyone recommend a good hi-torque motor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    so on top of the 1J rule for open play, there is a 0.7J rule for CQB?

    considering the quality of vests/helmets i wouldn't have thought it would have been an issue.

    i was PLASTERED from 6ft away in the bus in HRTA (at least 50 rounds). bit sore at the time, but it certainly wasn't anything worse than getting hit with a ball kicked hard from close range. i can't see the issue really,

    other odd thing is you advocate a higher V battery to increase the ROF. surely landing 15 shots on someone from close range is more painful than 10. pretty inconsistent.

    confused

    There is only one power restriction in Ireland and that is 1J. That is for all airsoft devices at all ranges and evironments.

    Getting hit with 50+ rounds from close range is excessive and silly. A 3 round burst should all be thats needed, maybe a second trigger squeeze on auto at most (equal to about 15-25 rounds depending on the device).

    Higher rate of fire is something every airsofter stuggles to attain with their devices. It's not neccessary on many guns but it's a nice option to have. On some aeg's, though, the rof is quite low comparitively out of the box, so increasing the battery and changing the motor would bring it more up to standard and give it parity with other aeg's.
    blay1 wrote: »
    the lower fps is not a rule, dont have to lower the fps, but if your going to be

    shot from 10 feet would you rather 1 joule or .7? and the quality of vest/helmets is irrelevant what happens if your shot in the face? painful with 200 worse with 328. by all means play with a 1 joule rifle, but you might not be popular if you shoot people on bare skin from 10 feet. ;)200 fps is plenty when a lot of the shooting will be done within 10-15 feet and i didnt advocate a higher voltage battery so you will have to direct that at the offender. i dont mind people playing with 1 joule rifles, but if someone wants to shoot me in cqb with a 200 fps gun, fine :)

    1) Wear full face if you're worried about this.
    2) If people complain about this, they're in the wrong sport. It's called taking a hit.
    3) And what about when it's not done at 10-15ft? Are you going to change your spring on site to play in the open field? What about if the scenario calls for both cqb and open field? Saying 200FPS (caveat: with .2g ammo) is enough is a matter of opinion. Are any of your aeg's firing at this power level?


    To the OP:
    Systema do very good motors. The G&P one that Beast mentioned earlier is damn good too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    im not sure who mentioned it but when i said about lowering the power of the MP5, the reason is partly because 328 is unnecessary in that close but more importantly because the lower the power of the spring the faster the motor and gears can turn giving me much better ROF when the 9.6 goes in.,
    there is no rule about the power limits for CQB but highering your FPS is mainly to achieve good range and its not needed in and around the buildings when your in close.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    NakedDex wrote: »
    Are any of your aeg's firing at this power level?

    no, my pistol is at 214 but I would consider getting a smg, downgrading it to

    200 and using it as a secondary. but that is my choice, i did tell

    the guy to use a 1 joule rifle if he wanted to, I'm not forcing my opinion on

    him :)



    :cool::cool::cool:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    blay1 wrote: »
    no, my pistol is at 214 but I would consider getting a smg, downgrading it to

    Jeez thats one seriously under powered M1911.,:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Alvin T. Grey


    blay1 wrote: »
    no, my pistol is at 214
    Either:
    A) you are shooting inside a freezer.
    B) You are filling the mag with farts.
    C) It's leaking like a sieve.

    Which is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Either:
    A) you are shooting inside a freezer.
    B) You are filling the mag with farts.
    C) It's leaking like a sieve.

    Which is it?


    i dont know, thats on green gas, was chroned on a cold day so thats

    probably it





    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    I was expecting you to say you were using 134a, somethings definitely wrong there blay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    zero19 wrote: »
    I was expecting you to say you were using 134a, somethings definitely wrong there blay

    lol no doubt, mag probably leaking too :pac:

    i never use it in a skirmish so fps isnt a worry, its only used when shooting in

    the house



    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Can't beat airsoftage from the comfort of your bed lol :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    zero19 wrote: »
    Can't beat airsoftage from the comfort of your bed lol :)

    i like to sit on the toilet airsofting and shoot down my hall :D:p


    just realised this is way off topic sorry OP,mods,posters :o


    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    blay1 wrote: »
    lol no doubt, mag probably leaking too :pac:

    i never use it in a skirmish so fps isnt a worry, its only used when shooting in

    the house



    :cool::cool::cool:

    200fps.,lol, this from someone who was giving advice and upkeeping mags recently.,:p:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    vtec wrote: »
    200fps.,lol, this from someone who was giving advice and upkeeping mags recently.,:p:D


    not my fault i have a leaky mag :D :pac:




    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    B) You are filling the mag with farts.

    Farts and propane smell similar enough to not know the difference sometimes. Though bottling it can be tricky. Not that I'd know....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 malboury


    Just a quick question;
    I have one of these AEG's (Galaxy MP5k) and was wondering if anyone has successfully tried it with a 9.6v. I'm pretty sure I could do the mod suggested above, but will the higher powered battery not shred the innards of the gun? Anyone know for sure?

    -Thanks,
    Malboury


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭Beast ASI


    malboury wrote: »
    Just a quick question;
    I have one of these AEG's (Galaxy MP5k) and was wondering if anyone has successfully tried it with a 9.6v. I'm pretty sure I could do the mod suggested above, but will the higher powered battery not shred the innards of the gun? Anyone know for sure?

    -Thanks,
    Malboury

    Hey,

    I used it with a G&P motor and a 9.6 and it held up fine.

    The internals are surprisingly good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    mine had metal bushings as standard, just nedded shims,. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭seamus-2k7


    vtec wrote: »
    mine had metal bushings as standard, just nedded shims,. :)


    Is shimming hard? iam not exactly an expert on gearboxes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    no not really, theres guides for it on the net somewhere, give it a google.,:)


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