Is Bread really That Bad?

Celtic67

Is bread really a major obstacle when trying to lose fat?
I generally have two slices of wholemeal toast with scrambled eggs in the morning and would have a wholemeal roll with chicken, salad etc at lunch. Could this be seriously impeding fat loss?
Should I try to eliminate bread from my diet altogether? Its very hard to imagine lunchtime without it, I would have to opt for cold meat salads etc.

lindak

Well I myself was thinking this myself. so I am going to have carb such a bread , rice , pasta all wholemeal once a day only either lunch / dinner . And see how this goes for this week anyway. I was thinking maybe wholemeal rivita may be bit better ?

HammerHeadGym

It deoends on whose advice you take really. I think some people may be more susceptible to the effect of starchy carbs than others. My mates dad for example will often go for a nap after a few slices of bread. I get quite sleepy when I take any sort of starchy carbs in my diet(rice, pasta etc.). I guess try it for a month without compared to a month with and see if there is a signifigant difference.

rubadub

If you use more calories than you ingest you will lose fat, simple as that.

I find it very easy to put away huge amounts of calories in the form of bread, I could easily eat half a sliced pan (400g) in a day. Bread has about double the calories of lean chicken by weight. I would have a hard time putting away 800g of calories relative to bread. And the chicken would satisfy me more.

A ryvita is only ~10g, so it is easier to get a carb/crunch fix from them and still be relatively low in calories.

Then there is the whole other side of fat loss, white bread, GI, carbs Vs protein etc. It gets very complex, but in simple terms I view bread as a fairly calorie dense food per portion size. It is usually ~220kcal per 100g, but portions can be big. There is about the same calories in a burger bun than in the burger, but 2 bunless burgers would satisfy me more.

Vegeta

rubadub wrote: »

There is about the same calories in a burger bun than in the burger, but 2 bunless burgers would satisfy me more.

nothing beats a burger with 2 more burgers as the bun, meat feast

cowzerp

As said before, bread is high in calories and worse again it makes you hungry very quick, not good for someone trying to lose weight and stick to a diet plan, my clients trying to gain weight i recommend upping there starchy carbs such as bread and pasta etc.. the clients looking to lose weight i advise to cut out starchy calories and keep to proteins and veg and salads etc..

g'em

Too lazy busy to repost

unreggd

read G'ems post!

I also thought it would be hard cuttin out [most] carbs, but not really

Why not get your lunchtime chicken in a salad tub, and eat it with a fork??

Thats what I do in work [great perk of free lunch from the deli in my shop ]

I used to make a Tuna sambo on brown bread with some cheese, now I just put extra tuna, and some cheese into a tub and eat it with a fork, yummy!

And try even just one slice of bread with your breakfast

Its all about balance. You do need carbs, just not so many

And as you want to lose fat, the last thing ye wanna be doin is scoffin foods that will be stored as extra fat

Try wholegrain breads

and white bread = NO!

flywheel

Celtic67 wrote: »

Is bread really a major obstacle when trying to lose fat?

depends: how much bread you eat (and your total carb intake) and what kind of bread it is... "bread" is a very general description these days... looking at the supermarket shelves you'll notice loads of choice... some (way) better than others...

i eat Lifefibre bread, find it helps me get some of my carb needs from good sources as well as extra seeds / nuts etc... compared to generic white sliced pan...

might be worth having a read of this article if your interested (from SBP a while back):
Using your loaf

as an aside, does anyone know if bleached flour is used in bread production in Ireland?

celestial

Depends on looads of factors, including what your overall diet is like, but the trouble is that bread is just flour and water at the end of the day, it's fairly calorific and it takes a LOT to fill you up, which means you eat loads - which means you eat a lot of calories eating it! As I mentioned in another post I could eat a tin of tuna and be full for 2-3 hours, but I could eat the same quantity gram for gram in bread and be hungry literally 10 minutes later!! I could easily eat 6 slices of bread toasted and still be hungry, so my advice is eat protein instead to fill you up!

davyjose

What rubadub said - it's too easy to consume to many cals from it. If you eat a sandwich at lunch, guaranteed almost whatever kind of sandwich it is (within reason), the bread will make up nearly half the cals.
What unreggd said is a good idea, but not always practical. Sometimes it's easier just to factor it in to your daily needs, but personally I try to eat NO MORE than 2 slices in any day (today I had one - wasn't working so didnt need a sandwich).

Celtic67

First day today without eating bread. Had loads of energy in the gym.
B/Fast: Bowl B/Flakes with Supermilk + 2 Turkey Rashers
Snack: 1 Pear
Lunch: Chicken Breast with Mixed salad + Natural Yogurt
Snack:: (Pre Gym): 1 Pear
Snack (Immediately Post Gym): Glass of Supermilk
Tea (45 mins post gym): Chicken Breast with Mixed Veg stirfryed with Worcesteshire Sauce & Fry light Spray.
Snack: Two slices low fat hard cheddar cheese.

Tomorrow morning intend replacing B/Flakes at B/Fast with scrambled eggs.

According to my calcs the above works out at about 1500kcals which seems too low for my weight (180lbs) even though Im trying to lose bodyfat. Would including a Glass of Supermilk in first snack of day & prior to gym be too much milk in one day?

celestial

Celtic67 wrote: »

First day today without eating bread. Had loads of energy in the gym.
B/Fast: Bowl B/Flakes with Supermilk + 2 Turkey Rashers
Snack: 1 Pear
Lunch: Chicken Breast with Mixed salad + Natural Yogurt
Snack:: (Pre Gym): 1 Pear
Snack (Immediately Post Gym): Glass of Supermilk
Tea (45 mins post gym): Chicken Breast with Mixed Veg stirfryed with Worcesteshire Sauce & Fry light Spray.
Snack: Two slices low fat hard cheddar cheese.

Tomorrow morning intend replacing B/Flakes at B/Fast with scrambled eggs.

According to my calcs the above works out at about 1500kcals which seems too low for my weight (180lbs) even though Im trying to lose bodyfat. Would including a Glass of Supermilk in first snack of day & prior to gym be too much milk in one day?

Hmm seriously doubt the above is approx 1500, more like 2000 or higher.

Celtic67

celestial wrote: »

Hmm seriously doubt the above is approx 1500, more like 2000 or higher.

I am def open to correction. I put together a a huge spreadsheet overtime of all the foods I eat together with Fitday.com, I checked labels and weighed food etc. Now of todays food:
30g B/Flakes with Glass Supermilk = approx 260kcals, Turkey Rashers = 25kcals X 2(50)
Tesco Pears Average 50kcals X 2 (100)
Chicken Breast 140g = approx 207kcals X 2 (420 Kcals)
Mixed Salad/Veg (Pepper/Carrot/Onion) = approx 100kcals X 2 (200kcals)
Fry Light Spray (4 Sprays) = 5Kcals
Glass Supermilk = 98Kcals
125g Pot Natural Yog = 82Kcals
Slice Low Fat Cheddar = approx 60kcals X 2 (120kcals)#

That actually comes in < 1400kcals. All kcals etc are based on the food labels & weights.
But if seems too low will maybe have to recheck s/sheet. BTW Id be happy enough if it came to 2000 as it has not left me hungry & I might struggle to add to it if not incl bread in there.