Which end of Grafton is the Top

Noelie · 28-03-2008 4:26pm #1

I continually have an arguement with my dad about which end of Grafton st. is the top. I say it's the Trinity end as that it the north end of the street and thus consider it the top. My dad argues it's the bottom as Grafton st. is on a hill and that end is at the bottom of the hill.

so which end is it for you.

bobbysands81 · 28-03-2008 4:27pm

Noelie wrote: »

I continually have an arguement with my dad about which end of Grafton st. is the top. I say it's the Trinity end as that it the north end of the street and thus consider it the top. My dad argues it's the bottom as Grafton st. is on a hill and that end is at the bottom of the hill.

so which end is it for you.

Trinity end is officially the top of Grafton Street, but if someone said to me that they'd meet me at the top then I'd presume they meany by Stephen's Green.

Wishbone Ash · 28-03-2008 4:40pm

Noelie wrote:

I say it's the Trinity end as that it the north end of the street and thus consider it the top

Dorset Street Upper is the southern end while Dorset Street Lower is the northern end (and the lower is physically higher than the upper).

The top of Grafton street IMO is the St Stephen's Green end.

spurious · 28-03-2008 4:48pm

The top is furthest from the river, so the Green end.
Top of O'Connell Street is Parnell Square.
etc.

Nalz · 28-03-2008 4:49pm

Stephens green is top for definite.

I look at it like this. centre of city is lets say o connell bridge, your at the bottom of o connell st walking towards parnell sq, your at the bottom of grafton when walking towards stphs green

star-pants · 28-03-2008 4:50pm

Friends and myself all mean St Stephens Green end when you said 'top of Grafton St'
and the 'bottom' is the Trinity end

Nalz · 28-03-2008 4:50pm

spurious wrote: »

The top is furthest from the river, so the Green end.
Top of O'Connell Street is Parnell Square.
etc.

a fcuking SNAP if there ever was one!!:)!!!!!!!!!!!

Crash · 28-03-2008 4:53pm

aye, street upper and lower goes the same way as river upper and lower. Imagine its a tributary to the liffey and you have your answer

Like lower liffey st. for instance.

Interesting note on that - you always tend to think of these things in terms of where you're most used to. for instance, for years when i was younger if i imagined Dublin as a map i'd think of it upside down, for some god known reason. took years to sort that one out.

Ste.phen · 28-03-2008 5:16pm

I never knew people felt so strongly about the reasons for this :P

I always assumed that the Stephen's green end was the 'top' cos the street is on a slight incline, and is higher at the stephen's green end.

Though the 'bottom = end nearest the 'centre'' argument kinda makes sense

I'd say top of leeson st = at the canal, etc

dudara · 28-03-2008 5:18pm

I've had some arguments over this with my partner. I'm going for the Green for one reason, it's at the higher end of Grafton Street.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 28-03-2008 5:21pm

This is very simple people.

In Dublin the 'lower' end of a street is ALWAYS the end nearest the Liffey.

In the case of a of a street running parallel to the Liffey its the end which is closest to the Liffey basin.

'Top of Grafton St.' is 'The Green.

o1s1n · 28-03-2008 5:26pm

dudara wrote: »

I'm going for the Green for one reason, it's at the higher end of Grafton Street.

That's how I've always seen it. It's a height thing. if something is higher then it's the top.

You go up to the top, and down to the bottom. Not up to the bottom and down to the top. Madness.

BendiBus · 28-03-2008 5:42pm

Mairt wrote: »

This is very simple people.

In Dublin the 'lower' end of a street is ALWAYS the end nearest the Liffey.

In the case of a of a street running parallel to the Liffey its the end which is closest to the Liffey basin.

'Top of Grafton St.' is 'The Green.

That's the official and correct answer. No need for a poll to decide this.

Wishbone Ash · 28-03-2008 5:51pm

Mairt wrote: »

This is very simple people.

In Dublin the 'lower' end of a street is ALWAYS the end nearest the Liffey

"Always" - what about Dorset Street?

Grid. · 28-03-2008 5:53pm

Mairt wrote: »

This is very simple people.

In Dublin the 'lower' end of a street is ALWAYS the end nearest the Liffey.

In the case of a of a street running parallel to the Liffey its the end which is closest to the Liffey basin.

'Top of Grafton St.' is 'The Green.

Thanks for that, sorts it out!:D

BendiBus · 28-03-2008 6:25pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

"Always" - what about Dorset Street?

That might need you to get your measuring tape out. Not sure which end is closer to the Liffey Basin. (Not sure exactly where the Liffey Basin is!)

Wishbone Ash · 28-03-2008 6:45pm

Oriel Street Upper is closer to the Liffey than Oriel Street Lower.

Stephen Street Upper is closer to the Liffey than Stephen Street Lower.

.........I could go on!

spurious · 28-03-2008 6:51pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Oriel Street Upper is closer to the Liffey than Oriel Street Lower.

But not to the canal.:)

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Stephen Street Upper is closer to the Liffey than Stephen Street Lower.

.........I could go on!

um...where is the nearest water? What route does the Poddle take?

IanCurtis · 28-03-2008 7:34pm

I always take the top to mean the top of the hill, but yes others I know have asked me which end?

lostexpectation · 30-03-2008 7:10am

liffey basin?, it like rivers yup top is stephens green.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 30-03-2008 4:02pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

.........I could go on!

But that would mean you couldn't hog the Dublin Pictures thread then

I think people get the idea.

Oh, and the bottom of Lower Oriel St is closer to the Liffey basin (the mouth of the river for some people).

Miss Fluff · 30-03-2008 9:40pm

Top is Stephen's Green end imo

Ciaran B · 31-03-2008 1:02pm

The Provosts House is number 1 Grafton St, which would suggest that it's the bottom.

(Also it contains the only parking space on Grafton St, AFAIK)

Jay D · 31-03-2008 6:24pm

Noelie wrote: »

I continually have an arguement with my dad about which end of Grafton st. is the top. I say it's the Trinity end as that it the north end of the street and thus consider it the top. My dad argues it's the bottom as Grafton st. is on a hill and that end is at the bottom of the hill.

so which end is it for you.

Stephen's Green.

all the Upper's are further away from the Liffey are they not?

Baggot, Leeson, Mount, Grand Canal etc etc

Flukey · 31-03-2008 10:32pm

I'd also say that the top of Grafton Street is the St. Stephen's Green end. The bottom is of course right down at Trinity College, past the Molly Malone monument, though a lot of people still think it ends at the end of the pedestrianised part.

sdanseo · 01-04-2008 4:21pm

The street is on a HILL.

Mother of God.

andrewh5 · 01-04-2008 4:24pm

sdonn_1 wrote: »

The street is on a HILL.

Mother of God.

Ye beat me to it

snickerpuss · 03-04-2008 6:45pm

As a northsider the Stephen's Green end is clearly the top.

Third_Echelon · 03-04-2008 6:52pm

Top of Grafton St is at St.Stephens Green...

Grafton St. Lower is the street that runs from where grafton st meets suffolk st to college green.

basically where the molly malone statue is..

Wishbone Ash · 03-04-2008 8:41pm

Third_Echelon wrote: »

Grafton St. Lower is the street that runs from where grafton st meets suffolk st to college green

There is no 'Grafton Street Lower'.

It is simply 'Grafton Street' and begins/ends on the east side at the Provost's House and on the west side at Fox's Cigar Shop.

Third_Echelon · 03-04-2008 9:15pm

Perhaps I should have typed it as such:

Grafton Street "Lower"

Diairist · 03-04-2008 9:18pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

There is no 'Grafton Street Lower'.

It is simply 'Grafton Street' and begins/ends on the east side at the Provost's House and on the west side at Fox's Cigar Shop.

not many people know that! Provost's gaff is number 1

Wishbone Ash · 04-04-2008 12:08am

Diairist wrote: »

not many people know that! Provost's gaff is number 1

But many of us do!

Wishbone Ash · 04-04-2008 12:09am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

There is no 'Grafton Street Lower'.

It is simply 'Grafton Street' and begins/ends on the east side at the Provost's House and on the west side at Fox's Cigar Shop.

Third_Echelon wrote: »

Perhaps I should have typed it as such:

Grafton Street "Lower"

I don't see what difference that would make!

Victor · 04-04-2008 6:37pm

There are a bunch of oddities like Dorset Street, Mayor Street (upper is at the Point Depot), Mount Street (streets are parallel), Baggot Street (lower is physically higher). In general take it that "Lower" is nearer O'Connell Bridge.