Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
If we do not hit our goal we will be forced to close the site.

Current status: https://keepboardsalive.com/

Annual subs are best for most impact. If you are still undecided on going Ad Free - you can also donate using the Paypal Donate option. All contribution helps. Thank you.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.

Rule Changes you'd like to see

2»

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭Noelie


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Once you cross the halfway line with the ball you can't go back into your own half with it. No passing back to your own half either when in the other half.

    Should be interesting. :D


    That may work in basketball where there are only 5 guys to a team, that rule would end up making all matches to defensive.

    Reverting the offside rule back to the way it was, you're either offside or you're not offside, none of this not active crap. If the player isn't active he shouldn't be on the pitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    PHB wrote: »
    As for the 2 extra lines, my issue is that I want the offside trap completely eliminated from the game. It's a skill no doubt, but not one that I wanted add to the game of football. However its a byproduct of the offside rule which is necessary, but pushing back where offside is allowed to happen would be greatly beneficial to an attacking game.
    There is no offside at all in the Astro.ie Leagues, so I can talk about the game of football without the rule. (Basically, what you are saying is that offside won't count on the goal side of the extra line, or closer to the half-way? Which?)

    Anyway, with no offside it is tactically a very different game.

    First of all, you could play with a goalhanger, which is what some teams do. This means you have to play with two centre halves, one of them needs pace or else the whole back line has to sit no further than the 18 yard box. This means the whole game is played in your half of the field, and you play on the counter. If you do have one fast CH, then you are sorted, you can push the whole game into the other team's half by basically forgetting about their goalhanger and just playing the defence on the edge of the centre circle, midfield halfway into their half, and your forwards pretty much in their box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Well currently you can't be offside if you're in your half, I want to make it so you can't be offside within your own 3/4s.
    It would stop 'goalhanging', but decrease the potency of the offside trap.
    I've seen it suggested before, although it was inside your own 2/3rds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    surprised no one has mentioned this. regarding the yellow card for taking a jersey off in celebration, its a fifa directive and must be implemented by all govering bodies. The reason it is a yellow card is because removing one's shirt, i.e bearing one's chest is a sign of disrespect in some cultures (not sure which) but cultures over which FIFA are the overall footballing body (obviously). It is the same as if we would expect a player to be booked if he celebrated by dropping his shorts and boxers and bearing his a$$ every time he scored a goal. perfectly reasonable yellow card. besides, all players know about the rule and are still surprised when the get booked for doing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    By the way.

    I agree with a 5-game retrospective ban for diving.

    A one/two game is a rest anyway.

    A five game would certainly make people think twice about doing it.

    Zero tolerance people. It's the only way.

    Also, for players surrounding the ref. Send 'em off, each and every one of them. If they go below 7 players in one game, they forfeit the match and the three points. Simple. We all know what teams are mostly guilty of this, and if they were to lose points like this, it would be eradicated tbh. Let the captain speak to the ref.

    Goal-line technology is definitely needed. Hawk-eye, and that "beeeeep" noise at Wimbledon Tennis would give an almost immediate result, and not affect the flow of the game.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    ditpoker wrote: »
    surprised no one has mentioned this. regarding the yellow card for taking a jersey off in celebration, its a fifa directive and must be implemented by all govering bodies. The reason it is a yellow card is because removing one's shirt, i.e bearing one's chest is a sign of disrespect in some cultures (not sure which) but cultures over which FIFA are the overall footballing body (obviously). It is the same as if we would expect a player to be booked if he celebrated by dropping his shorts and boxers and bearing his a$$ every time he scored a goal. perfectly reasonable yellow card. besides, all players know about the rule and are still surprised when the get booked for doing it.

    Screw that crap. Different cultures, let them have their own rules. This is the game we watch week in week out, in a country with no such hangups. If they want to ban it in their own country, let them.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    PHB wrote: »
    Screw that crap. Different cultures, let them have their own rules. This is the game we watch week in week out, in a country with no such hangups. If they want to ban it in their own country, let them.

    People from different cultures can live in different countries.

    In a politically correct world this is what you have to deal with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Leaving the field of play is not part of the game!

    Oh for god sake thats the lamest argument ever. If you want to be technical when a goal is scored the ball is no longer in play (until kick off) so there is a gap when the field is no longer a field of play!

    That aside, what on earth is wrong with a player running such as Drogba last week running 5 yards off the pitch to celebrate with the fans.

    The game has moved on to the extent now that the fans find them selves incresingly detatched from their clubs. Rules like that only strenghten that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    PHB wrote: »
    Screw that crap. Different cultures, let them have their own rules. This is the game we watch week in week out, in a country with no such hangups. If they want to ban it in their own country, let them.

    would you say britain is devoid of people from pakistan, iran, india, germany, france, usa, brazil, south africa...!?? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭growler


    ditpoker wrote: »
    would you say britain is devoid of people from pakistan, iran, india, germany, france, usa, brazil, south africa...!?? :confused:


    I'm struggling to recall the international uproar, riots, death threats etc. that resulted in a premier legaue player taking his shirt off...ever. In fact I can't even recall seeing anyone turn away from the tv in disgust at such shirt removing antics.

    Even if the super-conservative citizens of Tora Bora object to seeing Rooney's chest, so f**king what?


    Stupid rule.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    If they don't like it, don't watch it. Multiculturalism isn't about homogenisation.

    The running into the crowd thing is about crowd safety, while I'd like it not to be the case, if a kid was at the front he could easily be crushed. The rule is much more understandable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Charlie


    PHB wrote: »
    If they don't like it, don't watch it. Multiculturalism isn't about homogenisation.

    The running into the crowd thing is about crowd safety, while I'd like it not to be the case, if a kid was at the front he could easily be crushed. The rule is much more understandable.

    QFT

    Most players wear Under Armour or vests anyway, so when they take the jersey off they are not exposing their bare chest.

    I know people who have commented that they find it difficult to talk to a wearing a burka but daren't say anything as it's part of their culture and they respect that. Yet anything that from our culture that could offend in the slightest way has to be done away with. PC madness! Rant over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Id love a rule that says Man Utd are allowed play Newcastle 12 times a season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Once you cross the halfway line with the ball you can't go back into your own half with it. No passing back to your own half either when in the other half.

    Should be interesting. :D

    Like a basketball half court violation, interesting.

    Perhaps try and enforce the laws which already exist.

    1. Refs should be ex-players or suitably experienced
    2. Ref Mic
    3. Only Captain can speak to ref
    4. Foreign Refs (English refs should get some experience abroad and vice versa)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    lordgoat wrote:
    And i also think goalies are big pansies and get too much protection.

    :mad: Have you ever tried playing in goals? When you know what it's like to jump for a ball, have your legs shoved from under you and land from a height of 4+ feet in the air, sometimes several times in a game, then come back and say 'keepers are pansies. There's nearly always a direct instruction from managers to hassle the goalie during set-pieces, this should receive the same attention as teams targetting the likes of Torres, Ronaldo, etc. It's players like Jens "ranting and raving" Lehmann that have brought negative attention to the position.

    I'll admit the penalty rule is completely abused though. Last summer's shoot-out when England Under 21s lost was the perfect example of how officials don't police the line. It's not always down to cheating (goalkeepers are coached to step forward before diving for all shots) but it's usually pretty obvious when keepers look to gain an unfair advantage.

    I also agree with suggested rules B, C, D and F.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    An Fhile wrote: »
    :mad: Have you ever tried playing in goals? When you know what it's like to jump for a ball, have your legs shoved from under you and land from a height of 4+ feet in the air, sometimes several times in a game, then come back and say 'keepers are pansies.
    What you have described is a foul - be it on a goal keeper or not. This is not the problem people (well, me anyway) have. My problem is keepers getting free kicks for virtually ANY contact. IMO the keeper has an advantage over the attacking player cause they can use their hands. Why are you allowed to challange an outfield player in the air, but not the keeper?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Its due to a couple of reasons. The law is when the keeper has the ball under control (i.e. in their hands) any contact that you make which results in them loosing control of it its illegal. Hence a free.

    I do agree that there is a certain element of ott protection especially against keepers that makes a mess of coming for a cross, hit into a player and get a free.

    Another part is that while challenging an outfield player in the air if you knock him off balance mid flight lets say he sticks his hands out as protection. Keepers don't always have this luxury. The ball is in their hands so often they are using their shoulder, back and even heads to brace for the impact. Keepers need to be protected for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    I have a few ideas about rule changes. Some I have talked about on here and have generally been slaughtered about them:o

    I'll list a few of them anyway:

    1. Penalty shoot-outs to take place before extra-time.(Do a search if you're puzzled)

    2. Retrospective yellow/red cards. Refs should not have the responsiblity for cards.
    They would continue to decide what's a foul or not but a video ref decides if it's card worthy(benefit of replays), then can relay the decision to the match ref.

    3. Amend the 5 yellow card ban rule.
    Say if you go 3 games without a card then one is docked from your record or something. Yellow cards are too easy to get these days and it's madness that you can get a 1 match ban for picking up 5 cards in 7 months!

    4. Video technology for important decisions of fact - over the goal line and offside.
    Again using the video referee. For offside there is always the argument that it will slow the game down, but it doesn't have to. In all attacks play continues until the video ref comes back with his decision. If it's offside then everything proceeding the attack is irrelevant, if it was onside then the game has not been affected at all. Linesmen would not be responsible for off side, just there to help the refs for throw-ins, off the ball incidents etc. A linesmans job is next to impossible at the moment.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Tauren wrote: »
    What you have described is a foul - be it on a goal keeper or not. This is not the problem people (well, me anyway) have. My problem is keepers getting free kicks for virtually ANY contact. IMO the keeper has an advantage over the attacking player cause they can use their hands. Why are you allowed to challange an outfield player in the air, but not the keeper?

    I agree with you, don't get me wrong. I'd have no trouble dusting myself off and getting over it in the case of a fair challenge. Like I said, Lehmann is the best example to use from recent times of a keeper who over-reacts to minimal contact on the big stage. Before Almunia took over that guy pretty much had his own regular slot on Match of the Day, giving out about fair challenges, until referees just took the easy option and started giving soft free kicks.

    I can't remember the exact incident, but I was pretty p!ssed off recently to see (iirc) Mark Schwarzer get a free kick despite there being no contact at all. As a fan of the game I hate to see bad decisions like that. It was not the keeper's fault though, he didn't even appeal for it :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    iregk wrote: »
    Oh for god sake thats the lamest argument ever. If you want to be technical when a goal is scored the ball is no longer in play (until kick off) so there is a gap when the field is no longer a field of play!

    That aside, what on earth is wrong with a player running such as Drogba last week running 5 yards off the pitch to celebrate with the fans.

    The game has moved on to the extent now that the fans find them selves incresingly detatched from their clubs. Rules like that only strenghten that.

    You're the kind of poster that gets others into trouble for calling you names! What has Drogba running 5 yards got to do with what I responded to

    Originally Posted by Mikeyt086
    NO MORE YELLOWS for ...going into the crowd. Its a total joke.


    unless he went into the crowd?

    And as for your ball in the net remark, tut tut tut. Again I have to restrain myself ;)


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Smegball


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Id love a rule that says Man Utd are allowed play Newcastle 12 times a season.

    :D:D
    And Liverpool :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Straight red for diving.[Can be after the fact on video evidence]


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    An Fhile wrote: »
    :mad: Have you ever tried playing in goals? When you know what it's like to jump for a ball, have your legs shoved from under you and land from a height of 4+ feet in the air, sometimes several times in a game, then come back and say 'keepers are pansies. There's nearly always a direct instruction from managers to hassle the goalie during set-pieces, this should receive the same attention as teams targetting the likes of Torres, Ronaldo, etc. It's players like Jens "ranting and raving" Lehmann that have brought negative attention to the position.

    Yip i haveplayed in goal, i hated it and i found that it was tough at times but watching it on the tv the amount of 'fouls' called is ridiculous, i have no problem when there is contactit's part of the game. And i believe that a goalie should look after himself but at the end of the day i think that if the ball is anywhere but in his hands an other player has every right to try and win it. (So long as it's not wreckless or intentionally knowingly going to injure the keeper).

    I now much prefer standing rigt infront of the keeper at corners and causing as much havoc as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    You're the kind of poster that gets others into trouble for calling you names!
    Actually nobody has ever called me a name on this board so lame argument there.
    nipplenuts wrote: »
    What has Drogba running 5 yards got to do with what I responded to

    Fans in stamford bridge are close to the pitch. When drogba scored he ran over to the crowd and hugged a few of them. Its only 5 yards off the pitch. You said players that run into the crowd, thats what he did so it has everything to do with your response. Arjen Robben also got booked for this is ironically the exact same spot as drogba did it.
    nipplenuts wrote: »
    And as for your ball in the net remark, tut tut tut. Again I have to restrain myself ;)

    Just pointing out technicalities is all. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    An official stationed on the goaline to rule a goal.

    yep. a must imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭smcelhinney


    I cant agree with any suggestion that effectively changes an existing rule (ie. changes to the penal system for football), point in fact, the friggin abomination that is the offside rule.

    It leaves many a pundit (and better men) scratching their head of a Saturday afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,303 ✭✭✭✭event


    PHB wrote: »

    Then the final one, and its kinda a big change, the introduction of two new lines on the pitch, between the half way line and the goal line, to make four big lines on the pitch. Within the middle two lines, there can be no offside.
    This would result in much more open play, and make it much more difficult to execute the offside trap.

    *sigh*

    whats wrong with a well executed offside trap?

    how about this, no 2nd phase or anything like that.

    back to the old rule, if when the ball is passed forward, there has to be two players between you and the end line. End of story, nothing about coming back from an offside position, nothing about non interfering with play.

    If you are offside, you are offside.

    End of story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    event wrote: »
    back to the old rule, if when the ball is passed forward, there has to be two players between you and the end line. End of story, nothing about coming back from an offside position, nothing about non interfering with play.

    If you are offside, you are offside.

    End of story

    Exactly. I hate this "not interfering with play" thing, because really, if you're on the pitch, then you're interfering with play. Under the current rules, a striker can be coming back from an offside position and is not considered offside because he is not interfering with play. But are you telling me that the centre back doesn't have one eye on the striker, thus distracting him somewhat from the ball?

    I'd also do away with extra time and penalties and have both teams go to sudden death (with the ability to use the previously unused subs). It would be much more interesting, and if a game went a few more hours... well, who doesn't want to see more football?? I'm being a little facetious, but I would still prefer it to penalties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Was posted in another thread

    But a rule change I would love to see is
    The Captain can be booked and sent off if his team keep approaching and confronting the ref after a verbal warning , As that post said make the captaincy a real postion of responsibility.


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Was posted in another thread

    But a rule change I would love to see is
    The Captain can be booked and sent off if his team keep approaching and confronting the ref after a verbal warning , As that post said make the captaincy a real postion of responsibility.

    :eek: You've got to be joking. I'm actually in favour of the rugby approach to captaincy, but punishing one man for another's sins ain't cool, even in sports.


Advertisement