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Loading mags on G36C

  • 26-03-2008 9:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭


    Just got my first AEG today, JG J&K G36C and i've run into my first problem...loading mags. Is there some knack to it? I'm using the King Arms large speed loader and on both mags i've tried to load I only get 1-2 bbs in with each pump and I get very little in total. On one pump it seem to split open the side of the mag. i've already had to take apart both mags to free up bbs which wouldn't come out. any and all help appreciated!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,818 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    are they hi-caps?



    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    470 rnd I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Crave


    well there will be a little sliding cover or something similar where you pour in the bb's then wind the wheel on the bottom:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    !!! :(

    It seemed pretty stiff on mine so I didn't think it was supposed to open. A bit of prying got it done.

    ... look we all have Forrest Gump moments sometimes ok?? :o:o

    do they always rattle like hell? kinda lowers the stealth factor.


    p.s. thanks for the assist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Crave


    ya thats the disadvantage to the high capicity, main reason a lot of ppl don't use them, but it's personal choice, realism/playability

    use the thank you button, would be my first :D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    bwhahahaha!
    i was gonna post to tell you about the little door flap thingy but i said to myself, "nah, he cant be that thick".,lol.,:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Crave wrote: »
    ya thats the disadvantage to the high capicity, main reason a lot of ppl don't use them, but it's personal choice, realism/playability

    use the thank you button, would be my first :D

    This is what came with the gun and I just ordered a spare. will have to look for mid-caps.

    i'm also wondering why the heck I forked out on a speed loader if you can just pour them in!?! :( *Dumbass*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Crave


    Every one has to start somewhere, we all make mistakes, cut them some slack :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Crave


    Speed loader will come in handy, I'm sure this won't be your only AEG, trust me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    vtec wrote: »
    bwhahahaha!
    i was gonna post to tell you about the little door flap thingy but i said to myself, "nah, he cant be that thick".,lol.,:D

    I didn't want to force it open, I thought it might break. its only cheap plastic after all :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Crave wrote: »
    I'm sure this won't be your only AEG, trust me!

    It certainly won't! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭Crave


    I know what you mean, one of the bits of plastic on the side of one of my g36 mags has broke off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    I work with plastics so i'm not expecting much from ABS guns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Another noob question, how long do I charge the battery for first time? bear in mind i'm using the **** battery & charger which came with the gun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Oh whats the output in mah of the charger, and the mah of the battery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Another noob question, how long do I charge the battery for first time? bear in mind i'm using the **** battery & charger which came with the gun.

    From memory of my mates one it was 6.5 hours per charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    7*1100 Mah, charger output is 250Ma. Would that be 1100/250 to give the charge time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Yup, 264 mins according to the calculator


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Good stuff. thanks lads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭kevteljeur


    Another noob question, how long do I charge the battery for first time? bear in mind i'm using the **** battery & charger which came with the gun.

    You could get a smart charger. First time I played, Rew recommended it to me, and I ended up getting an Ansmann from MIA (all the retailers here do a smart charger of some sort). Not that I've been using it for years or anything, but I feel a lot safer about the longevity of my batteries, not to mention safety should I forget I have them plugged in and clear off for the weekend...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    kevteljeur wrote: »
    You could get a smart charger. First time I played, Rew recommended it to me, and I ended up getting an Ansmann from MIA (all the retailers here do a smart charger of some sort). Not that I've been using it for years or anything, but I feel a lot safer about the longevity of my batteries, not to mention safety should I forget I have them plugged in and clear off for the weekend...

    Thx kevteljeur, I was thinking of getting one alright as the one that came with the gun is pretty sh1t ... the pins aren't even bloody wide enough for our sockets and will probably break before too long. I was looking at the one on Airsoft Éire ... it's 50 squid though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Componentshop.co.uk do a basic airsoft smart charger, and do batteries too.
    For now I think you generally do the division mentioned before, and add 10 percent more time to compensate for inefficiencies, a smart charger will do this for you with auto cut off, an usually have a discharge function too.

    I think most of the Irish retailers stock chargers too.


    The speed loader will be handy in future, if you get some mid caps, I believe you can get cheap enough mag brand mids on ehobby.

    Its hard to find a vest though that suits g36 mags, I think you would need a tripple stanag pouch to hold two g36 mags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Motosam wrote: »
    Componentshop.co.uk do a basic airsoft smart charger, and do batteries too.
    For now I think you generally do the division mentioned before, and add 10 percent more time to compensate for inefficiencies, a smart charger will do this for you with auto cut off, an usually have a discharge function too.


    Thx. That's what i did last night but I added about 20% just in case. I'll be replacing this battery before too long anyway.

    Motosam wrote: »
    The speed loader will be handy in future, if you get some mid caps, I believe you can get cheap enough mag brand mids on ehobby.


    Do you generally go mid or low? There are some nice Tokyo Marui mags on Airsoft Eire, they're not cheap but look the biz.
    Motosam wrote: »
    Its hard to find a vest though that suits g36 mags, I think you would need a tripple stanag pouch to hold two g36 mags.


    or I was thinking a double to hold single mags perhaps ... depends also on how many mags i'll need. I haven't budgeted for lots of mags, I thought 2 hicaps would be ok but this rattle will do my head in :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Id go with 100 rounds or so per mag about, lower and you'll be reloading constantly given the nature of airsoft and heavy trigger fingers :D

    I think a lot of people have 5 or 7 mids, plus one emergency Hi-cap mag filled so it doesn't rattle.

    I used to have 2 hi-caps that Id use, now I'm doing a loadout with 5 mids and one hi-cap, haven't tried it yet though but It seems fairly common.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Motosam wrote: »
    Id go with 100 rounds or so per mag about, lower and you'll be reloading constantly given the nature of airsoft and heavy trigger fingers :D

    I think a lot of people have 5 or 7 mids, plus one emergency Hi-cap mag filled so it doesn't rattle.

    I used to have 2 hi-caps that Id use, now I'm doing a loadout with 5 mids and one hi-cap, haven't tried it yet though but It seems fairly common.

    So "ammo conservation" is not a concept airsofters are familiar with? :D

    I think i'll probably do that eventually, won't be airsofting much in coming months so will have time to develop my kit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    So "ammo conservation" is not a concept airsofters are familiar with? :D

    I think i'll probably do that eventually, won't be airsofting much in coming months so will have time to develop my kit.

    If you conserve ammo, you are either very good and getting lots of clean hits, or very crap and out of range and out of the battle:D

    I'm happy to be in the middle and get through a few 100 rounds, I'm not that much of a skirmisher yet:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Motosam wrote: »
    If you conserve ammo, you are either very good and getting lots of clean hits, or very crap and out of range and out of the battle:D

    I'm happy to be in the middle and get through a few 100 rounds, I'm not that much of a skirmisher yet:D

    What did they call 'em in Vietnam ... Rear Echolon M##### F######? That'd be me, out of the fight :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭kevteljeur


    Thx kevteljeur, I was thinking of getting one alright as the one that came with the gun is pretty sh1t ... the pins aren't even bloody wide enough for our sockets and will probably break before too long. I was looking at the one on Airsoft Éire ... it's 50 squid though.
    As I've said before, if you look at the price of decent batteries, you'll see that €50 isn't so bad for a good charger. I doubt you'll get a well-known brand for cheaper (trust me, I researched before I bought) and it should pay for itself with keeping your batteries alive, as well as fast-charging.
    Motosam wrote: »
    Id go with 100 rounds or so per mag about, lower and you'll be reloading constantly given the nature of airsoft and heavy trigger fingers :D

    I think a lot of people have 5 or 7 mids, plus one emergency Hi-cap mag filled so it doesn't rattle.

    I used to have 2 hi-caps that Id use, now I'm doing a loadout with 5 mids and one hi-cap, haven't tried it yet though but It seems fairly common.

    I'm finding I can fit one G36 mag per pouch in my vest, which would normally hold 2 STANAG/M16 mags. However, those notches on the side to clip extra mags together to make them tricky to get into and out of the pouches which is irritating. On the other hand, you can keep up to 3 mags on your gun at a time, which is good.

    As you might have seen from my post on the 'Experiences with Airsoft Retailers' I've got an order (sort of, I'd better clear that up) with a British retailer for stuff, that would be a box of Star G36 mid-caps, 140 rounds each, so good-bye baby-rattles! But that set-up you've suggested sounds good, with having a hi-cap for emergencies.

    They cost 35 sterling for a box of 5 mags - a good deal, else I'd have bought local.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    kevteljeur wrote: »
    As I've said before, if you look at the price of decent batteries, you'll see that €50 isn't so bad for a good charger. I doubt you'll get a well-known brand for cheaper (trust me, I researched before I bought) and it should pay for itself with keeping your batteries alive, as well as fast-charging.

    Ok, thanks, i'll probably invest so.

    kevteljeur wrote: »
    However, those notches on the side to clip extra mags together to make them tricky to get into and out of the pouches which is irritating.

    I was thinking if it was worth while breaking those off on one side of the mag, you could still keep two clipped together anyway.
    kevteljeur wrote: »
    Star G36 mid-caps, 140 rounds each, so good-bye baby-rattles! But that set-up you've suggested sounds good, with having a hi-cap for emergencies

    Do you know if they are compatible with the Jing Gong G36C?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭kevteljeur


    Do you know if they are compatible with the Jing Gong G36C?


    I bloody well hope so! We'll find out in a week or less. Irish dealers have comparable mags too, but they're 100 round mags; with packaging, etc, they actually work out cheaper but I couldn't resist having that extra 40 rounds in the mag, and I also wanted to get a couple of 20 round SL-8/9 mags too, which they don't stock here.

    Sorry for not responding sooner, by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    kevteljeur wrote: »
    I bloody well hope so! We'll find out in a week or less. Irish dealers have comparable mags too, but they're 100 round mags; with packaging, etc, they actually work out cheaper but I couldn't resist having that extra 40 rounds in the mag, and I also wanted to get a couple of 20 round SL-8/9 mags too, which they don't stock here.

    Sorry for not responding sooner, by the way.

    no bother, thx for the response.

    I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know how you get on. I was looking at these mags on ebay recently and was very close to purchasing but was just unsure of how they'd work.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    yeah there all compatabile with eachother.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭MacAonghusa


    Excellent, thx!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    ive had a few people tell me that the SL8/SL9 isnt compatable with the regular G36 mags but ive tried it myself., :) really andy if your a sniper and get in a sticky situation., myself and keith put a C mag on my SL8 last week.,:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    vtec wrote: »
    myself and keith put a C mag on my SL8 last week.,:D

    You'll pay for that. I gave you due warning. You'll pay...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    NakedDex wrote: »
    You'll pay for that. I gave you due warning. You'll pay...

    bwhahhahhahaaa.,:D :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭kevteljeur


    The baby-rattle effect from the G36 hi-caps really killed me yesterday. You could hear me coming 200 metres away - it almost makes sense NOT to carry spare mags. Bring on the mid-caps!

    Luckily I didn't do too much running. My goggles fogged up badly so all I could do was stand there and try to figure out what the shapes in the haze were... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭MarkLmk


    kevteljeur wrote: »
    Luckily I didn't do too much running. My goggles fogged up badly so all I could do was stand there and try to figure out what the shapes in the haze were... :(
    Lol I know that one myself as had the same prob, But the baby rattle was worth it 4 me as i was layin down some heavy fire n lovin it, It kept the TDK guys heads down lol


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