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Embarassing... Ronnie removal

  • 25-03-2008 3:03pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7


    God this is an embarassing one, thank god for near-anonymous boards ;) A rather brutally-honest friend pointed out to me over the weekend that it looks like i'm developing a ronnie or a moustache (I'm a girl). Now, I really hadn't noticed anything particularly bad, but looking closely it's true i do have some hair on my upper lip (though I think it's very light in colour and not visibile - but my mate obviously could see it!!!)

    So now I'm thinking I have to get rid of it, I can't stand the thought of other people thinking i've got a ronnie but being too shy to tell me so (did you ever see the movie Intermission???). But what do I do? Bleaching seems somewhat pointless, as i think the hair is pretty light already, but would it be worth it? And waxing... I'm thinking - what about re-growth??? Isn't it going to be all prickly and stubbly like my legs are? I'm also worried about it looking sore and red after waxing - would be morto for someone to see me like that!!!!

    Any advice would be BRILL, thanks.

    Incidentally, I'm 27 and came off the pill recently, I wonder if the decrease in oestrogen might have caused the increase in hair??? (I'm assuming it is a recent increase and i haven't been walking around deluded for years...)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Serpentine


    Not what you want to hear but as you say the hair is light so I really think going through the process of hair removal is gonna cause more damage than good. A close friend started getting paranoid about this after the comment of a dog ignorant fella one night & to be honest waxing gave her really unsightly stubble (far worse in my opinion) and then laser removal was costly, whatever method requires commitment but if it really bothers you that much at least you can do something about it! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,032 ✭✭✭She Devil


    Thankfully i don't have this problem yet, but all my friends wax theirs, every six weeks! It doesnt grow back prickly etc ... So dont worry about it make an appointment with your beauty therapist and you will be in and out in no time, this is as common as getting your eyebrows done!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Everyone had fine hair on their face.
    I've found that people can make it look like a ronnie, if they put make up on that aera.

    If it isn't that, I'd talk to a few people you trust about it.
    I wouldn't trust one persons opinion, some people are really paranoid about these things.

    I know people with this problem, and I think bleaching makes it more obvious. Because at some point the hair turns bright yellow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Get it zapped off with lazer treatment. Might cost you a few quid but at least that's it gone for a while (at least).


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    rb_ie wrote: »
    Get it zapped off with lazer treatment. Might cost you a few quid but at least that's it gone for a while (at least).

    Laser only works on dark hair. Not blonde or red.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Sorry OP but all I can think of is 'Intermission'!

    Sally - "Do I've a Ronnie?"
    Bus Driver - "A what?"
    Sally - "You know, a Ronnie. A moustache like"
    Bus Driver - "Giz a look.....Well you're no Tom Selleck"

    and...

    "You're not in the Burt Reynolds league."

    Anyway, if at all possible don't wax. You'll eventually end up with serious stubble. If it's light already then try bleach it more.

    Incidentally, where does the name 'Ronnie' come from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 CJOD


    Eeek, some pretty varied & contradictory advice there!!! :confused: I'm living in a country at the moment where laser treatment isn't an option, so it's a choice between bleaching or waxing, but I'm super-paranoid I'm gonna end up with either bright blonde hair (bad) or nasty stubble (even worse)... Maybe I just need to swallow my pride and ask some other mates (the guy who told me this is an uber-bitch about appearances)...OR maybe i need to find a digital camera and take a pic of my lip and post it here!!!

    Am cringing like crazy over this, particularly given my affection for Intermission... no idea where the term Ronnie came from (presumably there was a dub called Ronnie with a big moustache? I think this is a dublin expression?) but don't wanna be no Tom Selleck... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭kim_eire


    waxing doesnt leave stubble, the regrowth is much softer than when you shave and it lasts for a lot longer. Wouldnt bother bleachin as if it light coloured hair, its still there and people will still see it. IMO wax or get it waxed in a beauty salon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    CJOD wrote: »
    Eeek, some pretty varied & contradictory advice there!!! :confused: I'm living in a country at the moment where laser treatment isn't an option, so it's a choice between bleaching or waxing, but I'm super-paranoid I'm gonna end up with either bright blonde hair (bad) or nasty stubble (even worse)... Maybe I just need to swallow my pride and ask some other mates (the guy who told me this is an uber-bitch about appearances)...OR maybe i need to find a digital camera and take a pic of my lip and post it here!!!

    Am cringing like crazy over this, particularly given my affection for Intermission... no idea where the term Ronnie came from (presumably there was a dub called Ronnie with a big moustache? I think this is a dublin expression?) but don't wanna be no Tom Selleck... :(
    Lol! From the sounds of it you're nowhere close to being a Tom Selleck so don't worry. If you've never noticed this before, and it was a particularly bitchy friend who did see it, then it's obviously not exactly a major tache ;)

    I've always found bleaching to work really well (and no, it's never gone blonde/yellow as someone suggested earlier). I've been doing that for years and it's grand. I've never waxed because of the fear of stubble but going by what a few people here have said, that doesn't actually happen.

    Why don't you try bleaching it first and seeing what you think of it? Then if it doesn't make much of a difference and/or you're still unhappy, go to a good beautician and get it waxed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭hot fuss


    Just wax it yourself.. I bought wax strips - it takes all of about 3 minutes every few weeks and you would hardly notice the regrowth. I'm going to get laser when I can afford it but for now waxing is quick, painless, cheap and easy as pie..

    Seriously, don't fret it, it doesn't bother me at all..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭catyb20


    I bleach mine, I have really dark hair and my sis kindly pointed out the ronnie i had! Didnt think it was THAT bad, but when i think back it was! I use a bleach called Jolen only 7.50 and works a treat! Lasts 4-6 weeks too which is an added bonus!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭rusalka


    I wax with the little strips, and it's great.

    Regrowth is soft and silky - I've been doing it for over 10 years.

    I don't know how people get stubble from waxing - perhaps their technique is breaking the hairs instead of pulling them out from the root?

    Anyway, it works perfectly for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 CJOD


    Thank you ladies!!!! Some super solid advice there from those of you similarly afflicted! I think I might do as suggested and try bleaching first, and if it doesn't work, waxing. Very reassuring to hear it doesn't usually grow back as stubble.

    To the waxers, at what point is it long enough again to wax again? i.e. how often do you do it?

    Also, where i'm living (the a*sehole of eastern europe) we don't have usual brands of wax / bleach (like Immac or whatever) but also the beauticians aren't that great - i've taken to waxing my own bikini line cos they've scalded me with hot wax too many times. Is waxing myself easy enough using regular warm wax? (dunno if i'd be able to find the little strips here...)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    CJOD wrote: »
    Is waxing myself easy enough using regular warm wax? (dunno if i'd be able to find the little strips here...)

    I wax my own eyebrows. You'll be grand with the warm wax. When I was living in EE, I tried lots of brands and all were more effective than veet. Veet is crap. If you have a DM nearby I know they do wax strips.

    They have veet melty off hair stuff for the face, one of my housemates used to use it.
    I'd say the people who get stubble use this. Waxing doesn't cause stubble.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Bleaching your ronnie will just give you a white/blonde ronnie and they are
    still noticeable - especially from the side view and more so if there is make-up on top.
    No bloke want to end up kissing a gal with more facial hair than Ronnie
    Drew so getting it waxed sounds like your best bet.


    (On a side note http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Colman seems to be responsible
    for giving the term Ronnie to Irish slang).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭hot fuss


    CJOD wrote: »

    Also, where i'm living (the a*sehole of eastern europe) we don't have usual brands of wax / bleach (like Immac or whatever) but also the beauticians aren't that great - i've taken to waxing my own bikini line cos they've scalded me with hot wax too many times. Is waxing myself easy enough using regular warm wax? (dunno if i'd be able to find the little strips here...)

    The wax strips I use I actually bought in Prague, believe it or not.. I could check what brand they are later and let you know if you like..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 CJOD


    hot fuss - cheers!!! TBH I probably won't be able to find any half-decent brands here (my town being significantly less brand-aware than Prague!!!) but maybe I'm being unduly pessimistic about finding wax strips - shall investigate in the pharmacy tomorrow!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭hot fuss


    The make of the ones I bought in Prague is stap'rs. They came in a white, orange and blue box..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    My cousin had a tache and beard problem because of a hormone imbalance. She spent a fortune on laser surgery but it didn't work. The muppets did not tell her it wouldn't work if hormones are the problems. She now waxes it with nad's facial hair remover and is pleased with the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭echosound


    the one thing I would add to the above is that removing the hair might be worse than just leaving it alone. I had the same issue - came off pill, hormonal imbalance, and started getting very fine downy blonde hair along my jawline, kinda like where a sideburn would be - I have dark hair naturally so thankfully the downy hair was very fine and blonde so didn't look like I had big curly muttonchops or anything, but I was just paranoid about it. It's not even really noticeable, but when you are used to a completely clear face, the sudden onset of the fine downy hair was a source of much consternation for me!

    So, I got some of that cream that removes hair and yes, while it did the trick and the hair didn't grow back stubbly or thicker, what I found was that when I put on makeup( and I'd tend to wear makeup every day for work) there was a very noticeable "line" in the makeup as your face will naturally have very very fine downy hair all over, and the makeup clings to it. I had a noticeable line all along where the hair had been removed completely and in fact, felt that was even worse than the bit of downy blonde hair, and I couldn't wait for it to grow back :o

    So unless you're going to wax your entire face all over :eek: be careful about wearing makeup and emphasising that line, although if it's just your upper lip you're sorting out, you might get away with it, being that the crease from your nose down to your lip will disguise the line somewhat - mine was along the side of my cheek and the makeup just didn't stay on the part of my skin that I had removed the hair from, so it was like a tideline but higher up!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 CJOD


    Ah jaysus, was all set to do the waxing this evening, then had a quick look at this thread for one last bit of advice and now am nervous about echosound's advice!!?!?!? I wear make-up everyday for work too, has anybody else experienced this problem with 'tide marks' on a waxed upper lip???


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I never put make up on that aera.
    Your only supposed to put makeup where you need it, to cover blotchiness, dark circles etc. and it is supposed to be the same colour as your skin. So it blends in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭rusalka


    I wear makeup everyday, and never have a problem wearing it on my upper lip.

    I could see how you might have a problem as Echosound describes if you were waxing/removing hair from the side of your face, though - there's a good possibility there would be a noticeable 'line' where fluff meets smooth, however I only get a dark hair on the side of my face once in a blue moon, and when that happens I just tweeze it.

    If you're just doing your upper lip, though, I'd go for it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭Unaton


    Well what about instead of removing the hair you could visit your GP? It might be just hormonal imbalance. And that can be 'fixed' very easily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭hot fuss


    Used to use cream, now wax myself and have previously gotten professional waxes.. Wear make up every day without fail and NEVER had any problem like that..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 CJOD


    Ladies, THANK YOU for so much great solid first-hand advice. I'm gonna do it tonight (wax myself) and am going back on the pill, so hopefully when it grows back it'll be lighter than before. Will let you know how I get on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    I really dislike Ronnie's (how do I spell that plural?)

    I think the more permanent a solution is the best.

    An investment now is def. worth it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 CJOD


    OK a quick update, I waxed this evening, it stung a teeny tiny bit (but NOTHING on the level of a brazillian, for example) and now my lip is a little pink - am glad I'm having a night in on the couch ;) But so far very happy, fingers crossed tomorrow when I come to put my make-up on all will be well and I will be gloriously ronnie-free from now on!

    re Echosound's issue with all the hair being gone - I noticed (waxed under a very harsh bathroom light!) that the tiny fine downy hairs that I have all over my face were NOT removed by the wax. They'd only be a couple of millimetres long, so I guess too short to be removed by the wax, it was only the longer moustache-y ones which were waxed away. So maybe the issue Echosound had was cos the depilatory cream dissolved every single hair, including these ones, where as waxing would have left the shorter downey hairs intact? Just a theory based on this newbie's experience ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 lawoman


    men have it so easy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Ainekav


    whats a DM and EE? ronnie i believe is a reference to the late great ronnie drew.

    OP, buy the wee wax strips in boots , cost around 3/4 euro, are unbelievably easy to use and last a good while. the redness goes down in around ten minutes, half hour max. dont be worryin loveen happens to the best of us. make sure your not bein paranoid before u go to all the bother-ask your mum or someone. gluck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    lawoman wrote: »
    men have it so easy

    Well if you shave your face and head more than the once a day I have to, yes I have it easy. ;)


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