Why are Jazz and blues always put together?

scipio

Especially when your not that fond of Jazz but love Blues.:(

Setun

Heh, well I think that because on their own neither has enough interest - so pubs like JJs or forums like this just about manage to keep going.

Jazz is also largely derived and influenced by the blues, many jazz tunes work from a 12-bar form, or use blues licks when soloing. So I suppose it makes sense stylistically aswell. But it is kinda funny now that you mention it - just thinking of all the record stores that do this aswell.

Rigsby

You could also say why is not everything i.e. classical, jazz, blues, experimental, rock, ect, not put under "music". It's all music is it not?

As for jazz and blues, as said above, they are very closely related. Some artists who are famous for one also play a little of the other.

Personally I dont think lumping them together is any big problem.

satchmo

Well I'd imagine many people (myself included) who are into one will like the other. While I'm more of a jazz fan, I do like blues and have gone to a fair few blues gigs. And like Daddio said, gathering together followers of both is more likely to let places like bars and venues (and this forum!) be sustainable.

Killaqueen!!!

I love Jazz and Blues but, although there are similarities I think they're two completely different genres! Dunno why they're grouped together..

That said, I can understand in this site why they're put together. Can't imagine there'd be much activity if there were individual forums for Jazz and Blues.

BostonB

scipio wrote: »

Especially when your not that fond of Jazz but love Blues.:(

No idea. I'm the same. Just can't get into Jazz.

Rigsby

BostonB wrote: »

No idea. I'm the same. Just can't get into Jazz.

Again, I dont see the problem here Most venues that cater for jazz and blues very seldom have them on at the same time. So you can choose to go and see a blues band and avoid that dreaded jazz Likewise in record stores where they are together, surely you know which is which.

I honostly dont see the point of this thread.

BostonB

I just idle conversation isn't it. Like why are triangular sandwiches nicer than plain rectangular ones. Like others have posted I guess its just because they are niche genres so it makes sense to group niche genres for non musical reasons.

Rigsby

BostonB wrote: »

I just idle conversation isn't it.

It sure is ................ and also pointless IMO.

Setun

But interesting nonetheless, hmmm...

/goes off to make sandwich and ponder

stevejazzx

well jazz is a derivitive of the blues or at least it is heavily rooted there ..that's how it all started, the structure of the your typical 12 bar blues with its 3 chords evolved into the early jazz of billy holiday, louis armstrong etc...charlie parker later evolved it further into a fully fledged straight ahead sound and miles davis and john coltrane bridged that sound into the modern era...comapre the standard jazz blues changes and you'll see it's just a structured blues underneath with changes between the changes...summertime by gerswhin uses a whole tone opening bit which is strutured on a blues form but when its orchestrated you might not even realise that it is blues based music...

arybvtcw0eolkf

BostonB wrote: »

No idea. I'm the same. Just can't get into Jazz.

I was the same, until one night listening to RTE's LyricFM and it all just clicked, since then I can't get enough of Jazz.

Now I want it all the time, when I drink. When I'm alone and feeling blue, when I'm making love - its pretty much consumed me in the last few months.

Why?, haven't a clue!.