average starting salary for jobs...

shantor

lo,

Just wondering what average starting salary would be for

sales

sales admin

clerical

seems to be around the 27k mark from what I can see, does anyone agree disagree?

mikemac

For a graduate in Dublin I would say yes, 25k- 27k seems about right

But we realy need more info.
Dublin salaries tend to be higher than elsewhere so where are you?
And what kind of qualifications?

Gran Hermano

Will vary depending on location and industry sector.

Google "salary survey" ireland sales

You'll find results like this

cronos

If you have commission also you need to take that into account.

shantor

forget about commission

dublin area

doesnt have to be a graduate

entry level positions into banking/software/legal/customer service etc

also say 25k was the salary what are annual wage rises on average in 08? 5%ish so say about1250e?

Gran Hermano

shantor wrote: »

forget about commission

dublin area

doesnt have to be a graduate

entry level positions into banking/software/legal/customer service etc

also say 25k was the salary what are annual wage rises on average in 08? 5%ish so say about1250e?

Look at the PDF salary survey I linked above, it shows salaries for various
jobs/sectors.

MIN2511

Without a degree it's 18k and above, it all depends on what company, what basic experience do you have...Can you be more specific

chickenchaser

Yeah 18 or 18.5k seems to be an average.

I wonder where the entry level jobs for 27k are at?

AARRRGH

shantor wrote: »

forget about commission

dublin area

doesnt have to be a graduate

entry level positions into banking/software/legal/customer service etc

18k per year.

shantor wrote: »

also say 25k was the salary what are annual wage rises on average in 08? 5%ish so say about1250e?

You won't get 25k as a non-gradute doing a ****ty job like working in the bank (teller or call centre) or customer service.

Annual raises are dependent on your performance, so it can be anything from 0 - 100%. Average would be around 4% or 5%.

cronos

chickenchaser wrote: »

Yeah 18 or 18.5k seems to be an average.

I wonder where the entry level jobs for 27k are at?

Their entry level for graduates. Or mabey certain certs in the IT industry. Its possible that you might be on 27k after proving your self first on 18k for a year. Once you get in the door somewhere its always possible to get lucky.

Mellor

chickenchaser wrote: »

Yeah 18 or 18.5k seems to be an average.

I wonder where the entry level jobs for 27k are at?

The average for my class at graduate level was 30K (June 07), our degrees are pretty much geared towards a single career. I tend to see decicated degrees like this doing better, of course competition may be tighter.

cronos

Mellor wrote: »

The average for my class at graduate level was 30K (June 07), our degrees are pretty much geared towards a single career. I tend to see decicated degrees like this doing better, of course competition may be tighter.

What industry or profession you in mellor?

MIN2511

cronos wrote: »

What industry or profession you in mellor?

+1
Don't see many companies paying 30k these days for grads except health sector

cronos

MIN2511 wrote: »

+1
Don't see many companies paying 30k these days for grads except health sector

Well I see a number paying 30k alright but that is prity much the max and not the average. Average means their are prob people getting more than 30k EG a range of 28k to 32k.

Mellor

cronos wrote: »

What industry or profession you in mellor?

Architectural Technology,
And yeah it was 30k average, most of the class were offered 30k exactly, a few slightly over (I was lucky to be one), and a few under, your range above spot on.

aoife000

MIN2511 wrote: »

Without a degree it's 18k and above, it all depends on what company, what basic experience do you have...Can you be more specific

omg, imagine trying to live on 18k!

cronos

aoife000 wrote: »

omg, imagine trying to live on 18k!

Try becoming a graduate accountant

MIN2511

I know someone that started on 16k

shantor

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Will vary depending on location and industry sector.

Google "salary survey" ireland sales

You'll find results like this

that salary survey was bang on and answered the question I was really after PAs / sec / reception seem to start on higher salaries than sales / sales admin

starting pa salary 25 - 35k while sales admin is a lot behind

weird because I always though pa/rec jobs would be easier than sales

funktastic

Teaching- both secondary and primary is over 30k starting- http://www.into.ie/ROI/WorkingConditions/Salaries/CommonBasicScale/

chris85

Engineering also offer around 32k starting for graduates.

Gran Hermano

shantor wrote: »

that salary survey was bang on and answered the question I was really after PAs / sec / reception seem to start on higher salaries than sales / sales admin

starting pa salary 25 - 35k while sales admin is a lot behind

weird because I always though pa/rec jobs would be easier than sales

After 5 years the person who started in sales should easily be on double
their starting salary (again this will vary according to industry), this is not
likely to be the situation for someone who went down the secretarial/receptionist
route.

You should look at a sales admin role as a gateway into account management/business development
where the OTE with 5 years experience can easily be €70k+ if you're in the right sector.
You wont find many PAs earning that

shantor

Gran Hermano wrote: »

After 5 years the person who started in sales should easily be on double
their starting salary (again this will vary according to industry), this is not
likely to be the situation for someone who went down the secretarial/receptionist
route.

You should look at a sales admin role as a gateway into account management/business development
where the OTE with 5 years experience can easily be €70k+ if you're in the right sector.
You wont find many PAs earning that

actually PAs to high level execs can earn up between 45 - 65k according to that survey.. look at the DIT or Gov earning tables as well, they show the same potential

actually I am doing the hiring, not looking for a job :P

bit of an eye opener to me though the salary levels of pa/sec/clerical..

cronos

shantor wrote: »

actually PAs to high level execs can earn up between 45 - 65k according to that survey.. look at the DIT or Gov earning tables as well, they show the same potential

actually I am doing the hiring, not looking for a job :P

bit of an eye opener to me though the salary levels of pa/sec/clerical..

Dont mean to knock being a PA or anything but I dont understand how you could justify that pay level for the role unless you had about 15 or 20 years as a PA done. Or unless you have come to the point where your not really a PA but have become the exec's project manager.

shantor

cronos wrote: »

your not really a PA but have become the exec's project manager.

I think its a case of that allright, some execs cant tie there shoe laces but can get up and to the big board presentations etc

there was a well known CEO in a big irish semi state, he couldnt type and didnt even have a computer or a desk in his office, and relied on his PA for everything

cronos

shantor wrote: »

I think its a case of that allright, some execs cant tie there shoe laces but can get up and to the big board presentations etc

there was a well known CEO in a big irish semi state, he couldnt type and didnt even have a computer or a desk in his office, and relied on his PA for everything

Then its time to hire a beter CEO in my book. Well unless they started the company in which case they can pay whoever whatever they like.

shantor

maybe PAs are well renumerated as they provide extra 'special' services??

cronos

shantor wrote: »

maybe PAs are well renumerated as they provide extra 'special' services??

Sure I suppose you can ask them that in the interview. LOL

Clytus

chris85 wrote: »

Engineering also offer around 32k starting for graduates.

your right. My brother is 3 years out of college and got a job straight away for 30K...he has been promoted very quickly and will be on €90K at 27..and the company are going to pay for him to do his Masters...worth another €40 over 2 years. Jammy Bugger!!!!

cronos

Clytus wrote: »

your right. My brother is 3 years out of college and got a job straight away for 30K...he has been promoted very quickly and will be on €90K at 27..and the company are going to pay for him to do his Masters...worth another €40 over 2 years. Jammy Bugger!!!!

I should have gone into engineering not IT Consulting so haha LOL Thats a great situation for him. I assume he would be doing the masters part time.

AlexD

In Dublin,

Consulting

Also have much do you get taxed on 35 000?

Mellor

at 35k you are still under the upper limit (just) so tax is based on 22% less your credits, should come out ok

mkdon05

35000 @ 20% = 7000

Less credits (3660) (assuming Single)

3340 tax due
1836 PRSI due

Net Salary = 29824

padser

AlexD wrote: »

In Dublin,

Consulting

Also have much do you get taxed on 35 000?

What type of consulting?

AlexD

padser wrote: »

What type of consulting?

Management consulting, with alot of IT. Thanks for the calcuation Mkdon05.

Also wondering about starting salaries in Accountancy, banking etc. Does anyone know what the big four pay?

AlexD

chris85 wrote: »

Engineering also offer around 32k starting for graduates.

I hear of a guy, starting in sept on 41k for Engineering, that's exceptional though.

jon1981

AlexD wrote: »

I hear of a guy, starting in sept on 41k for Engineering, that's exceptional though.

when you say engineering, what kind?

AlexD

jon1981 wrote: »

when you say engineering, what kind?

Don't know I'm afraid, I know there's significant vairety in the area, or even the role. Will try and find out. It is an engineering job though, rather than finance or something.

AlexD

Here's the HEA study of what graduates do. Section has detailed info on salaries.

proactiv

Hey just wondering does anyone know what the average Civil Eng Grad wage is?

jockey79

im a bar manager in kerry.. wat kind of wage should i be on?

Unaton

proactiv wrote: »

Hey just wondering does anyone know what the average Civil Eng Grad wage is?

My partner's on 32k I think. It might depend on the company but I'd say 30-35k is the average salary.

I heard last year that the starting wage for Civil went from around 28 - 32k. Saying that, I saw an ad for South Dublin County Council and if you got a first you were to start on €40k.