"FreeTibet?" Check this out!

carsonsunhao

Quite interested in your feeling after watching this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo

daithicarr

ah such a free happy nation. how lucky the tibetans are that the chinese will station so many troops to protect them from the evil clutchs of the Dalai lama Cliche.
hopefully 250,000 troops should be enough to see of those evil monks and their subversive chanting

wes

Well, in the first what 30 seconds, it basically tells people who disagree to "f*** off".

Didn't bother with the rest. I can only assume after telling people to "f*** off", that it was probably going to childish.

So not gonna waste 7 minutes on a video, that resorts to pathetic childish insults.

Scofflaw

carsonsunhao wrote: »

Quite interested in your feeling after watching this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo

I feel you're not quite as good at this as the Israelis...

cordially,
Scofflaw

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

rofl

that was fantastic Op. Thank you.

carsonsunhao

I think the person who made this op got chips on his shoulder because of those "free tibet" suppoters. :DI loved the end of the part saying "it's home, no one can break it apart."
and also, gives you some more info about tibet issue.

wes

carsonsunhao wrote: »

I think the person who made this op got chips on his shoulder because of those "free tibet" suppoters. :DI loved the end of the part saying "it's home, no one can break it apart."
and also, gives you some more info about tibet issue.

If by "information", you mean propoganda. Then you are completely right.

Sand

If by "information", you mean propoganda. Then you are completely right.

If anyones gone to the bother of creating any sort of media presentation on an issue you can be fairly sure its propaganda of some sort.

SeanW

It may well contain some facts, but presented with a catchy musical tune and some weird conspiracy theory (like how the CIA is funding the Dalai Lama to break up China a.la Yugoslavia) included in the "facts." Like how, close to home, Northern Ireland wants to be independent ... no it F@#king doesn't - the majority of Northern Irish want their province to remain in the U.K. albeit with less Britishness, the rest all want it to be annexed by the Republic ... as for Scotland, the Scottish National Party won an election or two riding a wave of discontent with New Labour ... wow, those horrible evil English people holding on to these grudging colonies, have no credibility asking what the Chinese are doing in Tibet at all do they?

Propoganda.

Thirdfox

SeanW wrote: »

It may well contain some facts, but presented with a catchy musical tune and some weird conspiracy theory (like how the CIA is funding the Dalai Lama to break up China a.la Yugoslavia) included in the "facts."
Propoganda.

Whatever about the rest... it is accepted that the CIA funded the Dalai Lama covertly

NY Times:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CEFD61538F931A35753C1A96E958260

Newsweek:
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NWEC&p_theme=nwec&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EC05F7A43BEDFE4&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

LA Times:
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/34059556.html?dids=34059556:34059556&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Sep+15%2C+1998&author=JIM+MANN&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=CIA+Gave+Aid+to+Tibetan+Exiles+in+'60s%2C+Files+Show&pqatl=google

"The money for the Tibetans and the Dalai Lama was part of the CIA's worldwide effort during the height of the Cold War to undermine Communist governments, particularly in the Soviet Union and China. In fact, the U.S. government committee that approved the Tibetan operations also authorized the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba."

These papers can hardly be said to be spreading conspiracy theories about their own country's intelligence service right?

Use google news and "CIA Dalai Lama" to see report from other western media sources (the ones you trust )

Scofflaw

Thirdfox wrote: »

Whatever about the rest... it is accepted that the CIA funded the Dalai Lama covertly

NY Times:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CEFD61538F931A35753C1A96E958260

Newsweek:
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NWEC&p_theme=nwec&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EC05F7A43BEDFE4&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

LA Times:
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/34059556.html?dids=34059556:34059556&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Sep+15%2C+1998&author=JIM+MANN&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=CIA+Gave+Aid+to+Tibetan+Exiles+in+'60s%2C+Files+Show&pqatl=google

"The money for the Tibetans and the Dalai Lama was part of the CIA's worldwide effort during the height of the Cold War to undermine Communist governments, particularly in the Soviet Union and China. In fact, the U.S. government committee that approved the Tibetan operations also authorized the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba."

These papers can hardly be said to be spreading conspiracy theories about their own country's intelligence service right?

Use google news and "CIA Dalai Lama" to see report from other western media sources (the ones you trust )

That, at least, is true, and quite well documented at this stage. Starting from about 1956, the CIA helped train and fund Tibetans who chose to continue to fight. The CIA did not go through the Dalai Lama, although two of the Tibetans who helped him flee Tibet were apparently CIA-trained.

Actual operations seem to have been pretty good, but the basic concepts were faulty. Aside from anything else, the CIA concentrated on the Khampa nomads, who the rest of Tibet regarded in a way not unlike the way the Irish regard Travellers. History Net has a good 6-page rundown.

cordially,
Scofflaw

carsonsunhao

People, thank god someone has started approaching this issue, A lot of us studied world history, no country is better than another.
Both Tibetan and Han Chinese culture are worth a lifetime of in-depth study. You cannot simply draw conclusions based on one view. It is not the kind of dark age you hear from Western mainstream media. CIA is only bit of it, you might find out more eg. dalai lama's slavery history background?

Scofflaw

carsonsunhao wrote: »

People, thank god someone has started approaching this issue, A lot of us studied world history, no country is better than another.
Both Tibetan and Han Chinese culture are worth a lifetime of in-depth study. You cannot simply draw conclusions based on one view. It is not the kind of dark age you hear from Western mainstream media. CIA is only bit of it, you might find out more eg. dalai lama's slavery history background?

No country is better than another, hm? So why does China, which is no better than Tibet, invade and rule Tibet?

Bear in mind, we Irish were no angels - should we have accepted British rule on that basis? Should India, Egypt, most of Africa, the US, and on and on and on, have accepted foreign rule on that basis?

The Chinese are engaged in a bloody and repressive rule over non-Chinese. What do you want, sympathy that they occasionally get uppity? You think the Irish should feel for China's terrible plight as occasionally-counterattacked rulers of another country?

Scofflaw

carsonsunhao

Mind the words fly out from your mouth, and the way to press your anger, you are not qualified to judge my motherland by such a foolish way, have you ever been to college hm?

fair enough, my reseach is done.

GuanYin

This is a discussion forum, not a ground for your research.