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Sunderland going down?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    According to Wiki, he holds a decent amount of shares, about as much as most of the other investors.

    I actually said he never invested his own money - not that he doesnt have shares.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Charlie


    I actually said he never invested his own money - not that he doesnt have shares.....

    And I suppose these were given to him out of the goodness of their hearts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Sorry to go off topic, but I can't let such trolling go unchecked.

    jesus you express an opinion about a team who cant buy a win being crap and youre called a troll, cop on will you
    Did you not watch the game last night? Keegan setup the most positive starting 11 that I have seen in a long time. The boys were playing for each other. The 3 men upfront gelled well, and Butt, Geremi and Barton (although the later two's passing was average) got a great engine going in midfield.

    and you were rubbish and looked entirely uninterested til you scored. too many players at that club blatantly have their eye on a move and couldnt care less about what happens to newcastle
    We are in this mess because of Ashley and Big Sam, not KK. Allardyce netted us 1 point from 2 games with Derby, had both Wigan and Reading turn us over and had us thumped by Pompey in our own backyard. We should have easily been picking up 10 points form those games, which would leave us well clear of a relegation battle at this stage.

    oh right, so allardyce was rubbish and keegan is amazing with his super points haul this season?
    But its ok, you're excused. Hating Newcastle and KK seems to be the in thing these days

    i dont hate keegan or newcastle. ive always quite liked toon actually, but the reaction to keegan taking over (the messiah stuff) was so hilariously misguided that the only fitting outcome would be relegation and keggy walking, which i would find hilarious

    also, id like us to nick milner and martins in the summer and you going down would help

    and again, grow up, just coz someone has an opinion that isnt the same as yours doesnt mean theyre trolling. where are your posts about people who were calling bolton or small heath rubbish? they mustve been trolling too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    But he didn't buy Sunderland either, that was Drumavale. He is an employee of Sunderland FC, not one of the owners.

    did he not put a few bob of his own money in?

    either way anyway, im not one of the people on quinns back for being chairman of an english side. fair play to him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    Look, Roy Keane is in his first full season in management at a club with no scouting system in place (disbanded under the previous regime), obviously he is going to start with players that he already knew.

    And just for the record he never played with Kenwyne Jones,Carlos Edwards,Craig Gordon who are three of his best signings.

    I already explained to anyone who would listen why they had to spend that much money and why they don't exactly get a great exchange rate for it.

    I see that 'pseudo-patriotic' is the new phrase of choice for people following Sunderland.
    I am not going to feel guilty because I don't watch the Eircom League, otherwise 9 in every 10 football fans in the country would feel guilty for wanting Irish players to do well in the premiership becuase they don't watch the Eircom league!

    Just because I wish Irish players to do well in England, yet don't actively support the irish league does not make me a hypocrite.

    They are clearly two separate entities. I, like everyone else, grew up watching Ireland, and watching the premiership.
    Just because the Eircom league finally has some investment and the standard is slightly better, does not mean I should feel guilty for not watching it.
    I play football once a week and watch a game or two on the telly each weekend, thats enough for me tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Helix wrote: »
    i dont hate keegan or newcastle. ive always quite liked toon actually, but the reaction to keegan taking over (the messiah stuff) was so hilariously misguided that the only fitting outcome would be relegation and keggy walking, which i would find hilarious

    Sigh....do you think they represent every Newcastle supporter, so much of that was egged on by the media. Throw a sky sports camera in a front of a few chav faces and they'll perform all sorts of monkey tricks.

    The fact that you say relegation would be hilarious, and justified, because certain fans exerted possibly too much joy at a managerial appointment, is quite troll like.

    But i'll say no more and leave it at that as this is a Mackems thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    these people should be putting their money into domestic football (if they are so patriotic themselves) and should be out supporting actual Irish clubs that they can experience be it Shels, Bohs, Kilkenny City(RIP), Glebe North or Letterkenny Rovers or whoever.

    people are of course allowed to do whatever they want, people can choose to consume whatever they like, its a free world but it doesnt make it right.

    Who are my local team? I grew up in Cabra so I guess that makes it Bohs (grandfather was apparently a big fan) however they're upping sticks near to Dublin Airport and will be far from local to me then. Is there a point in me following them so? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    The fact that you say relegation would be hilarious, and justified, because certain fans exerted possibly too much joy at a managerial appointment, is quite troll like.

    But i'll say no more and leave it at that as this is a Mackems thread.

    no, its me expressing my opinion and backing it up with reasons for said opinion, which i think youll find doesnt fit into trolling

    but yes, lets leave it at that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    DesF wrote: »
    How do you feel about supporting Irish players and managers in their ventures at home?
    It's to do with patriotism. Obviously that is the view foreigners have of our country. If LOI teams are representing Ireland on the European stage then patriotism will kick in and we'll cheer for the Irish team. My father was the stereotypical Irish patriot who wouldn't watch the Champions league final but would cheer his head off watching Shels or Cork play a French or Spanish team. He was the same with rugby, snooker, athletics, anything, and he has bred that on to me. If an Irish ant made it's way to England he'd want to know about it.

    It's not just an Irish thing. You'll find similarities in every country, especially the smaller ones.

    Also, considering how you feel about Sunderland, count yourself lucky Quinn, Keane and the Irish brigade didn't take over a Spanish team because I'm absolutely convinced the interest then would be multiplied.
    ditpoker wrote: »
    as a spurs fan i believe i am qualified to say andy reid could be a championship regular if he lost weight. he is not good enough to play in the premiership.
    Andy Reid is one of the most gifted passers in the premiership. He's also one of the most intelligent. He has a good attitude, a sensible chap, he puts in a good shift, doesn't let confidence affect him. If he stays fit for the next year or 2 he'll make a name for himself in the premiership imo. The only doubt is whether he's suited to the British game where he won't get much space but footballers will respect his type of player. Obviously I come across as an incredibly biased chap so I'll compare him to other Irish players... he's our most influential player imo.

    His performance against Germany was world class, literally. That's what he can do when he gets the space. We'll see what he can do when closed down quickly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    Who are my local team? I grew up in Cabra so I guess that makes it Bohs (grandfather was apparently a big fan) however they're upping sticks near to Dublin Airport and will be far from local to me then. Is there a point in me following them so? :confused:

    do you not support Bohs? or are you thinking of going along to Bohs?

    last time i checked Bohs were playing in Dalymount Park in Phibsboro, they are due to move Harristown eventually down the line and im sure every Bohs fan will be delighted to travel that arduous journey up the road to their brand spanking new stadium accepting the reality that clubs do and have to move locations in order to move forward.

    if you're a Cabra man and havent developed an attachment to a club yet you'll be delighted to hear that Beggsboro F.C. are on your doorstep with a decent little ground, playing in the LSL and play on Friday nights under the lights :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    do you not support Bohs? or are you thinking of going along to Bohs?

    last time i checked Bohs were playing in Dalymount Park in Phibsboro, they are due to move Harristown eventually down the line and im sure every Bohs fan will be delighted to travel that arduous journey up the road to their brand spanking new stadium accepting the reality that clubs do and have to move locations in order to move forward.

    I've only been the odd time here and there. With regards to Bohs fans being delighted to go to Harristown, I have mates who are supporters and they're far from pleased about making such a trip. In fact the impression I've been given is that they won't be arsed doing so. I certainly wouldn't be.
    if you're a Cabra man and havent developed an attachment to a club yet you'll be delighted to hear that Beggsboro F.C. are on your doorstep with a decent little ground, playing in the LSL and play on Friday nights under the lights :)

    Ah I dunno. I'm in Glasnevin now sure. ;)


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The reason I started supporting Sunderland was because:

    1) They were at the bottom of the table - I like supporting those who must struggle to do well, it's all too easy to support a team that wins everything e.g. Man Utd., Arsenal, Liverpool, that lot.

    2) The Irish connection. I make no apologies for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    The reason I started supporting Sunderland was because:

    1) They were at the bottom of the table - I like supporting those who must struggle to do well, it's all too easy to support a team that wins everything e.g. Man Utd., Arsenal, Liverpool, that lot.

    2) The Irish connection. I make no apologies for this.

    How very noble of you:rolleyes:

    Why not support Scunthorpe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    I have to admit the Irish connection is part of the reason I follow my team too, makes it much easier to get to matches. And as it happens they were bottom of the league when I started following them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    The reason I started supporting Sunderland was because:

    1) They were at the bottom of the table - I like supporting those who must struggle to do well, it's all too easy to support a team that wins everything e.g. Man Utd., Arsenal, Liverpool, that lot.

    2) The Irish connection. I make no apologies for this.

    you should meet Des, he'd like you :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I don't think theres a bad reason to start following a club. The issue for me is if you continue to follow it for the rest of your life. If people fall out of love with football, fine, but changing club is just not something that is acceptable whatsover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    How very noble of you:rolleyes:

    Why not support Scunthorpe?

    Because he liked the idea of supporting Sunderland and he just gave reasons why. Who do you support and why?
    I can't understand why people look down on anyone for supporting Sunderland, was it better when everyone jumped on the Chelsea bandwagon or Man Utd or further back Liverpool. I think it's great to see them being supported.
    Who knows, in a few years I could be in the pub having a bit of banter and a laugh while Man Utd play Sunderland, nice change from sitting amongst loads of Arsenal, Chelsea and Pool fans.(nothing wrong with them just would be a change)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    PHB wrote: »
    I don't think theres a bad reason to start following a club. The issue for me is if you continue to follow it for the rest of your life. If people fall out of love with football, fine, but changing club is just not something that is acceptable whatsover.

    I 'supported' Manchester United since 7 years of age, caught up in the marketed hype as an easily led child buying all the overpriced jersey/videos whatever, only ever saw the club i 'supported' via a tv screen and then finally copped on to the great scam that 'supporting' a foreign club is when i was 17/18 and started supporting a real club that had a real connection with me and a real Irish club unlike this Sunderland/Oirish horsecrap

    there is a big difference between changing (or supporting) a club for bandwagoning purposes and changing a club for the right reasons. there was nothing to change for me as 'supporting' United was nothing more than a lie and an illusion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Fair enough, I do accept that as pretty solid, but would I be right in saying you'd never support another English club bar United.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    told yah PHB all Shels fan are closet man utd fans :p


    kdjac


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    told yah PHB all Shels fan are closet man utd fans :p


    kdjac

    :rolleyes: Eh no they're not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    PHB wrote: »
    Fair enough, I do accept that as pretty solid, but would I be right in saying you'd never support another English club bar United.
    i'll support Liverpool just to annoy you ;)

    even though i dont call my self a United supporter i still have a mega soft spot for them but i like watching Arsenal and Spurs for their great football too. as KdjaCL rightly points out United's style of football is just a close but not quite as good reflection of the brilliance we see at Tolka Park every week so no wonder there is a mutual link between the clubs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I think it's great how nearly all Sunderland supporters started when they were bottom of the table, I'm sure they were excited at the possibility of playing in league one when they made that decision. :)

    I wish people would just come out and say they support X because they were successful when they started following football, and to hell with all this martyr stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    astrofool wrote: »

    I wish people would just come out and say they support X because they were successful when they started following football, and to hell with all this martyr stuff.

    i support sunderland cos Niall Quinn brainwashed me when i went over.

    Na Na Na keano keano Na Na Na Na keano keano

    :D


    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    i support sunderland cos Niall Quinn brainwashed me when i went over.

    Na Na Na keano keano Na Na Na Na keano keano

    :D

    im a man utd fan but i like sunderland because of roy keane obviously :p but not coz he is an old trafford legend...or that he is irish, btu thsat it gives the writers of iKeano new storylines and brillaint changes to the show!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭guinnessdrinker


    I must admit, I'm no Sunderland supporter but I do look out for their rseults every week. I would imagine the only reason I do this is because of the Irish connection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    astrofool wrote: »
    I wish people would just come out and say they support X because they were successful when they started following football, and to hell with all this martyr stuff.

    If I was to say that I would lie. Arsenal weren't winning a whole lot when I started supporting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,404 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    i support sunderland cos Niall Quinn brainwashed me when i went over.

    Na Na Na keano keano Na Na Na Na keano keano

    :D


    kdjac
    What did you go over for in the first place?
    To see what they hype was about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    you should meet Des, he'd like you :D

    You mean Des the Man United fan?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    Yeah sunderland are my no.2 side now in the league, purely because keano is there.

    I don't 'support' them, but want to see them do as well as possible and beat everyone they play bar United ;)

    If Cantona managed a French side i'd keep an eye on them and hoped they did well...

    Legends are a rare breed.


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