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Grand Slam Sunday

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Draw
    PHB wrote: »
    It'll be a different sort of game, United won't be as defensive. Think there will be a clear winner.

    Hitting Pool at the wrong time, there confidence is sky high and the look solid now. Dont think it will be as easy as before. I hope your right but there is no clear winner.

    StickyMcGinty is right lets all focus on Bolton first eh?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Chelsea
    I'm not saying that United are gona be the clear winner, I'm just saying United are gona attack Liverpool, so I don't expect a draw.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    United
    were liverpool not in better overall form the last time ye played us? as in, un defeated in the league and best start ever and all that? true, ye have won 4 or 5 on the trot, but before that, didnt win in 5 or 6, and this stream of wins have been home games against some pretty poor teams like newcastle, reading, bolton(a), boro, west ham all who are not playing great at the moment.

    nope we were in **** form we had just lost 3-1 to reading its the period where we threw away everything and the time hicks went of talking to jurgen,
    we've won our last 7 including home and away to inter milan,
    liverpool win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Erin Go Brath


    Arsenal
    I'd slightly fancy Utd to win this one, but not by much if they do. I'd say 2-1 to United or else 1-1. Not much between the teams, but Utd do grind out the results even when they play badly, and they do have a good record against Liverpool as of late. Ronaldo and Torres are probably the 2 best players in the league. It'll be interesting to see which one of them comes out on top on Sunday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Draw
    Comfortable United win. Still debating if I should go over or not without a ticket.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,714 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Draw
    Man Utd clear favorites on the basis of the last few meetings in Old Trafford. Liverpool would need to be on top form and Utd slightly off for us to get anything from the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Draw
    Liverpool are due a result against United. For that reason alone, I think we will do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Draw
    Liverpool are due a result against United. For that reason alone, I think we will do it.

    You are due a win but I think it will come at Anfield and not Old Trafford

    or dare I say it, champions league final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    Steve Bennet is refereeing the game, so Ronaldo will get kicked around the place, probably have a stone wall penalty denied, match of the Day will ignore it and say it was a dive. Rooney will get sent off for being in possession of a United shirt. Gerrard will dive in the penalty area and con the ref (who will just be waiting for such an excuse). Foster saves it, only for the ref to retake it three times until Gerrard scores. Bennet then denies Tevez two clear goals leaving Bennet to smirk his way off the pitch.

    Match of the Day still sees nothing wrong, preferring to concentrate on Fergie remonstrating with the fourth official. Cue Shearer tut tutting about the way to behave on the pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Draw
    Liverpool are due a result against United. For that reason alone, I think we will do it.

    we have been hearing this since the days of danny murphy. united are a far better team than liverpool and while anything can happen in a one off game which is what this is, more than any other games, i expect united to win. Liverpool have not threatened united in a league game for years now at this stage. last year was the best chance, you owned the ball, but created little and then the legend from waterford struck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    RasTa wrote: »
    Comfortable United win. Still debating if I should go over or not without a ticket.

    I'm still ticketless also, but am still going over.

    A mate of mine got 1 on viagogo today - lucky baxtard. I don't have membership, is anyone not using there's for this game so I could keep an eye on viagogo and try geting one over the next few days?

    I'm expecting a Utd win. I'll go for 1-0 Ferdinand just because I ****ed up making him my FF captain this week:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Draw
    Unearthly wrote: »
    You are due a win but I think it will come at Anfield and not Old Trafford

    or dare I say it, champions league final

    Could deal with the second one ;) I must admit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Chelsea
    Ill be rooting for Liverpool, want the title race to be as close as possible!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    United
    i would f**kin love for torres to get his first away hat trick at old trafford :D

    not gonna happen tho :mad:

    im gonna play it safe and say 1-1
    and i had to pick a winner ill put my red goggles on and say liverpool :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭LuckyCharms


    I'd almost tolerate a loss on sunday if we beat them in the Cl final :)
    Going for a utd win 1-0 with ferdinand putting torres back into the same pocket he had him in during the first game at anfield. I think fletcher might start also for some reason aslong as another bathroom door doesn't fall on him while he is in the dressing room that is :)

    GGMU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭Chong


    Draw
    Jesus I cant wait for this weekend its going to be class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭walshki


    Draw
    I could easily see nil nil in both games on Sunday. There will be few chances in either and teams might be more afraid of losing than anything else (draw guarantees united still maintain some form of points advantage at the top and likewise Liverpool over everton. I'm sure both teams will go for it but both have good defensive set ups and it could get very cagey after 60 minutes if its still level. Pool are on better form than they were in December regardless of the stats at that time so I don't think united will have as easy a time defensively as they did then.

    Either way it'll be exciting (even nil nils in these games are tense).

    For the person who asked about the stats website I use
    www.365stats.com
    Good range of info including head to head etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    I'd almost tolerate a loss on sunday if we beat them in the Cl final :)

    Tolerate?

    It is nearly worth swapping a 23-0 massacre in return for beating them in Moscow tbh.

    Well, alright, 3-0, maybe even 4-0, but it would be worth it for the cockyness from them on Sunday evening, to compare it to the "pfft, who cares, CL is a joke competition anyway that lets 3rd rate teams in and get lucky" if they were beaten in Moscow :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Draw
    we have been hearing this since the days of danny murphy. united are a far better team than liverpool and while anything can happen in a one off game which is what this is, more than any other games, i expect united to win. Liverpool have not threatened united in a league game for years now at this stage. last year was the best chance, you owned the ball, but created little and then the legend from waterford struck.

    United are without doubt a better team, I would not dispute this. We are pretty close to them though and if they are having a remotely bad day, we can beat them. They are also not so much better to have a run of about 8 games on us at this stage,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭LuckyCharms


    shane86 wrote: »
    Tolerate?
    It is nearly worth swapping a 23-0 massacre in return for beating them in Moscow tbh.

    :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Chelsea
    I don't think Liverpool are close to United in terms of first 11, player vs. player, I think United have a better 2nd CB, a better left back, two better wingers, one better striker, but, players don't win games, teams do :) I think if Fergie gets his tactics right, we'll win. However, I won't be surprised to see Giggs and Scholes play, resulting in a different way of playing, slower, more boring. If that United team lines up, I think the game will be much much more cagey, but I'm hopeful that it won't :) We'll know tomorrow though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭LuckyCharms


    Jaysus i hope he doesn't start both of em, i think he has realised that he can only play one of them each game, it just stifles the play too much having both play atm and with anderson starting to tire abit i think it might be time for Mr. Fletcher to start tomorrow and get scholes n carrick in for sunday.

    Main thing is to keep rooney n tevez injury free otherwise we are screwed >_>


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    United
    is there any "choppers" at bolton to do a number on Mr Tevez :p

    im predicting that if anyone for Utd scores against pool, it will be Tevez. might put a bet down for him to score first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Draw
    PHB wrote: »
    I don't think Liverpool are close to United in terms of first 11, player vs. player, I think United have a better 2nd CB, a better left back, two better wingers, one better striker, but, players don't win games, teams do :) I think if Fergie gets his tactics right, we'll win. However, I won't be surprised to see Giggs and Scholes play, resulting in a different way of playing, slower, more boring. If that United team lines up, I think the game will be much much more cagey, but I'm hopeful that it won't :) We'll know tomorrow though :)

    Not to rehash an argument that has been done million times but assuming they both line up with a 4-3-3/4-5-1
    [FONT=Courier New]Van Der Sar       vs         Reina           Reina[/FONT]
     
    [FONT=Courier New]Arbeloa           vs         Brown           Arbeloa[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]Carra             vs         Ferdinand       Ferdinand[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]Hypia             vs         Vidic           Vidic[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]Risse             vs         Evra            Evra[/FONT]
     
    [FONT=Courier New]Mascherano        vs         Hargreaves      Mascherano[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]Alonso            vs         Carrick         Alonso[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]Gerard            vs         Scholes         Gerard[/FONT]
     
    [FONT=Courier New]Kuyt              vs         Ronaldo         Ronaldo[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]Babel             vs         Tevez           Tevez[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]Torres            vs         Rooney          Torres[/FONT]
    [FONT=Courier New]
    
    [/FONT]


    Now, re the scholes versus Gerard. A year ago, I would have said Scholes but no more. It would technically be Finnan vs Neville - Neville would take that. It could be Babel versus Giggs, would pick Babel. It could be Babel versus Nani, would pick Nani. It could be Gerard vs Anderson - would pick Gerard.

    God knows who will run out this weekend but the first 11 is pretty close in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Chelsea
    I think the thing is, while I think there is much debate over who is better, Rooney or Torres, or who is better, Mascherano over Alonso, the ones you have Liverpool winning on, they are the tight ones. The ones where United win, they are the clear ones, the ones with no doubt :) That's why United's are a better first team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Draw
    I totally agree that they have a better team.. I just got the impression that you thought there was a massive gap and I was pointing out that there wasn't.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,872 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Jazzy wrote: »
    i would f**kin love for torres to get his first away hat trick at old trafford :D

    not gonna happen tho :mad:

    im gonna play it safe and say 1-1
    and i had to pick a winner ill put my red goggles on and say liverpool :p

    I don't know about that, but it would be great to see him get his second away hattrick though ;)

    In fairness though I hate these games as Utd are in general a better team, and also Liverpool have not performed well in a league game against Utd in a long time. Hopefully the fact that they are on a good run at home and in Europe will inspire an extra edge of confidence and hopefully Rafa will stick with the same team and formation that has been working well in recent games.

    Whatever happens (and I hope it is a liverpool win obviously), if we give them a good game and play some decent football we will give ourselves a chance.

    It'll probably be a terrible boring game though (both of them).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Draw
    It will probably be decided by a mistake and be a horrible game of football


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Arsenal
    zAbbo wrote: »
    It will probably be decided by a mistake and be a horrible game of football

    Like I said, a 95th minute scuffed shot from Neville going through Reina's legs... ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Draw
    its interesting how u rate 6 liverpool players better than their corresponding united players. only 2 liverpool players would get into the united team currently, we know who they are. you are compairing also players to suit liverpool. scholes, carrick and hargreaves will all not start the next day, it will probably be ronaldo and nani on the wings. if you do it correctly and play united in the same boat, it would be for example.
    kuyt v ronaldo - ronaldo
    babbel v nani - nani

    gerrard v rooney - even
    torres v tevez - torres

    the mascherano and alonso v carrick/scholes and hargreaves is a matter of personal opinion. you cannot say and be correct that either party is better. personally i would not swap uniteds midfield at the moment as its the strongest we have had in 9 years.

    if anybody on here is not clear on just how good rooney is, then you should

    1 - look at united stats with him in and not in, the team (1 defeat in a year with rooney in the team, fa cup v pompy 2 weeks ago).

    2 - go see him play live. the workrate off the ball of him is amazing. he is alot more than a goalscorer.


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