Big four sue eircom

rowlandbrowner

http://www.enn.ie/article/10124046.html

I’d love to see how they draw a correlation between illegally downloaded music and a drop in music sales. I probably illegally download between 10 and 20 albums on an average week but I spend an embarrassing amount of money on cds and records too. The cheek of four companies who control 90% of their market to lecture anyone about what’s fair especially when they charge upwards of 25 squid for new albums (maybe thats why your sales are dropping....) – most of which are terrible.

Speaking from my personal experience, most of my illegal downloading is older stuff that’s long out of print and so costs me large amounts of money on amazon to get, I download stuff to see if its worth the cash then I either delete it or make a note to purchase it when I can find it or have the cash.

Clearly the evil little men in their suits don't understand new methods music fans have employed to seek out new and old music, how else are we expected to hear interesting music, the radio and tv have long since abandoned taste


I’ll be switching isp if eircom start to censor my internet usuage.

Hal1

Pity conreg isn't in that list sueing eircon. :rolleyes:Mods please move this to correct forum.

DerekD Goldfish

I’ll be switching isp if eircom start to censor my internet usuage.

I agree
I download a lot of stuff but I also apend a few grand a year on CD/Vinyl a lot of which I wouldnt spent otherwise

ShoulderChip

I download a lot of stuff, and think people who spend money on media are sick, charities might prefer it, it does not hinder good music been produced.

cornbb

ShoulderChip wrote: »

I download a lot of stuff, and think people who spend money on media are sick, charities might prefer it, it does not hinder good music been produced.

You should pay for your music dude, people work hard to put it together and depend on your honesty for a living. Where else do you think that money comes from?

Aside from that, this eircom thing is a fiasco. I have little sympathy for the big 4 and they are doing themselves no favours by trying to force the shape of a medium that they should be doing a better job of taking advantage of. Its like trying to force the ESB to ensure that the electricity they supply won't be used for growing dope. Doubtlessly some clueless judge will completely misunderstand the technical and business issues at hand and find in their favour.

Independent labels on the other hand have genuinely embraced the Internet and have turned it to their advantage without having to resort to bullying. Independent music FTW.

ogy

i dunno, do you think artists ever made money from music sales? i think artists always made their money on touring/tshirt sale/etc etc.
maybe if you sold a million CDs everytime you might start to make money on your 3rd or 4th album, but even then not even ridiculous amounts. obviously with independent bands/independent labels you shouldn't rip their stuff off, but its not them who are complaining, its the big boys 4 or 5 big companies who've been making the money off the back of the artists for 40-50 years. I buy loads of CDs but download a lot of music too, i've often bought the CD on the back of a download, but i don't particularly think i'm helping the artist by doing that, i just like to have CDs:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skkcNYQxAog

jtsuited

simple fact is that the big four have lost money as they no longer control what the public hears (apart from radio but that is changing).
artists on the big four would be the first to tell you how little they make from sales because of ridiculous contracts.
'independent' music is thriving on the internet, and artists on these labels are making decent money without having to sell obscene amounts of records.

I don't buy cds at all anymore, but i do buy music i like on the interweb, simply because with a service like beatport.com (electronic music megastore of sorts), the method of browsing is really handy and convenient for the listener. you get to listen to every track and browse for hours.

'illegal' downloads will of course hit certain artists sales, but i really can't see it putting many artists out of business.

Jonny Arson

rowlandbrowner wrote: »

I’d love to see how they draw a correlation between illegally downloaded music and a drop in music sales.

gas isnt it? they never acknowledge the impact of online retailers on the music market as they in particular are offering fair and reasonably priced cd, sure in their stone age minds online music retailers dont exist

anyway, in the unlikely event the 'big 4' win their action (looks to me its just desperate threats) i will love to see the solution they come up with for the ISPs to filter all those packets

Doctor J

I buy a lot less music these days, compared to the substantial amount I used to buy, but the reason is I pretty much have most of the music I want and most of the new music I hear is utter ****e.

That's not Eircom's fault.

is_that_so

I can't remember the last time I bought in a "shop". It's like a baby throwing its toys out because Amazon, CDWOW, Play etc, sell the stuff cheaper. I would have thought that that's where their problems lie. Eircom, love 'em or loathe 'em is an "easy" target. They'll still be losing out to other online retailers.