Tuesday night - Stormy weather - Wintry showers

darkman2

Its interesting that whilst the media went on in such a rediculous fashion about last nights storm (and have got their fingers burnt) a more damaging period of wind tomorrow night is likely - and we will hear nothing about it!


Anyway Tuesday night will be cold and very windy with some wintry showers. I think winds will be stronger on Tuesday night then they were at any time last night (esspecially over the Northern half of the country) which could lead to more disruption with fallen branches and trees and that sort of thing. With low temperatures some of the showers will fall as hail, sleet and snow.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn421.png

maquiladora

Met Éireann seem a lot less concerned about Tuesday night than they did with last night's event:

Cold with westerly winds strengthening further Tuesday evening and possibly becoming stormy again on Tuesday night in western and northern areas mainly with heavy showers at times and some may be wintry.

nacho libre

it won't be anything to tell your grandkids about but we do quite well out of these scenarios in terms of gusts.

Kur4mA

I'll believe it when I see it. BOOOURNS!

Paddy.1

Here's how the latest ECMWF run handles this potential:

nacho libre

if that comes off as projected, would it be engaging in hyperbole to suggest gusts of up to 70 mph inland?

Kippure

darkman2 wrote: »

Its interesting that whilst the media went on in such a rediculous fashion about last nights storm (and have got their fingers burnt) a more damaging period of wind tomorrow night is likely - and we will hear nothing about it!


Anyway Tuesday night will be cold and very windy with some wintry showers. I think winds will be stronger on Tuesday night then they were at any time last night (esspecially over the Northern half of the country) which could lead to more disruption with fallen branches and trees and that sort of thing. With low temperatures some of the showers will fall as hail, sleet and snow.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn421.png

If you saw all the snow around wicklow this afternoon, think of what will be up there after this system passes through. Camera at the ready.

Kippure

Kippure wrote: »

If you saw all the snow around wicklow this afternoon, think of what will be up there after this system passes through. Camera at the ready.

Yup the snow came down to about 300metres.
It looks like a good cover right across the south of the county above that level from my view here.
It's probably melting fast though except up on lug.

Kippure

Deleted User wrote: »

Yup the snow came down to about 300metres.
It looks like a good cover right across the south of the county above that level from my view here.
It's probably melting fast though except up on lug.

That wind really whipped up some drifts. Couple of cars got stuck this morning, however the middle part of the road is clear. Lots of slush.

ninebeanrows

Seriously ouch for much of Ireland from this thing, looks like a spell of 6/9 hours of intense winds.

darkman2

Deleted User wrote: »

Yup the snow came down to about 300metres.
It looks like a good cover right across the south of the county above that level from my view here.
It's probably melting fast though except up on lug.

It will come down to the lowest levels tomorrow night with heavy showers and very cold air embedded on the latest runs. Should not accumulate but expect some flakes.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn362.png

ninebeanrows

We are looking at gust potential across Connacht, Ulster and north Leinster of between 140-150km/hr overnight Tuesday, so potential for gusts to 90mph.

Widespread gusts from 100-120km/hr.

Mr Benevolent

Bah! As usual Dublin gets hardly any bad weather!

ninebeanrows

Confab wrote: »

Bah! As usual Dublin gets hardly any bad weather!

Dublin coudl be one of the worst affected counties in this, it's in and around North Leinster..... i'm expecting gusts to 130km/hr

rushbrook

Confab wrote: »

Bah! As usual Dublin gets hardly any bad weather!

not sure I agree with u there about Dublin not getting any bad weather .. last nights "anticlimax" cost me a wooden fence which now looks like decking on my garden and a satellite dish which needs to be seriously re-aligned , though on the plus side I now have italian tv

DubArk

It was like sleeping in a tumble dryer last night living right on the coast as I do, it’s cost me some roof tiles and a new sand dune had appeared in my garden!:eek:

Kippure

This storm is going to be a beast.

ninebeanrows

UKM has really upped the anti with its 12z Fax chart update.

Some severe weather.

This is for midnight Tuesday

ninebeanrows

A difference of 36 millibars between the south coast of Ireland and the North coast :eek:

Sierra Oscar

From the UK Met -

UK Met

Following the very windy conditions experienced across the south of the UK through Monday the Met Office is expecting unsettled conditions to continue with more severe gales to affect the UK later this week.

Forecasters at the UK's national weather service have issued an early warning of severe gales with potentially damaging gusts forecast for late Tuesday and into Wednesday.

High winds with gusts of 60 to 70 m.p.h., and perhaps 80 m.p.h. gusts over exposed coasts and hills. Areas most at risk of this spell of severe weather are likely to be north Wales, the Midlands, Northern Ireland and northern England.

Nick Grahame, Chief Forecaster at the Met Office said: "We are forecasting another swathe of severe gales to affect parts of the UK, although the focus further north compared to the severe weather on Monday.

"With this spell of strong winds the Met Office is predicting further disruption to transport and power supplies, as well as the potential of damage to buildings and trees."

People are advised to stay in touch with the latest weather forecast and warnings on the Met Office website, and tune into local radio and TV.

maquiladora

Doesn't look like much of an event for those of us in the southern half of the country.

DOCARCH

maquiladora wrote: »

Doesn't look like much of an event for those of us in the southern half of the country.

Surely your having an 'event' at the moment - not sure how south you are ? but it looks really bad over Cork, Kerry and Limerick at the moment?

maquiladora

DOCARCH wrote: »

Surely your having an 'event' at the moment - not sure how south you are ? but it looks really bad over Cork, Kerry and Limerick at the moment?

Waterford... It's wet and blustery.

Supercell

I got maybe 3 hours of light sleep with the storm last night, was like the apocalypse had arrived outside, not looking forward to tomorrow night if a repeat is on the cards.
That said driving by the snowy mountains on the way home this evening was pretty cool

Longfield

Longfield wrote: »

That said driving by the snowy mountains on the way home this evening was pretty cool

Yeah they looked pure icelandic.
All that was missing were the geysers,the volcanoe's and gushing steam

Gonzo

Longfield wrote: »

I got maybe 3 hours of light sleep with the storm last night, was like the apocalypse had arrived outside, not looking forward to tomorrow night if a repeat is on the cards.
That said driving by the snowy mountains on the way home this evening was pretty cool

Whats the deal with last night, so many boardsies from the south-west, west but also Dublin & Wicklow reporting vicious loud winds from last night, yet we in Meath had a few gales, nothing more than 20 to 30mph if even that, only way we cud hear the wind was to step outside:). Did the wind blow really bad from the west and then suddenly stop skiping from Louth, through Meath, into Kildare etc and then suddenly get really bad again around Dublin & Wicklow?? I can understand the high winds in the west but why did Dublin and Wickow get really bad winds when counties bordering had hardly anything.

HungryJoey

Gonzo wrote: »

Whats the deal with last night, so many boardsies from the south-west, west but also Dublin & Wicklow reporting vicious loud winds from last night, yet we in Meath had a few gales, nothing more than 20 to 30mph if even that, only way we cud hear the wind was to step outside:). Did the wind blow really bad from the west and then suddenly stop skiping from Louth, through Meath, into Kildare etc and then suddenly get really bad again around Dublin & Wicklow?? I can understand the high winds in the west but why did Dublin and Wickow get really bad winds when counties bordering had hardly anything.

I couldn't agree more. Nothing more then the odd gust of wind last night for me in Dublin 15. :rolleyes:

rc28

Gonzo wrote: »

Whats the deal with last night, so many boardsies from the south-west, west but also Dublin & Wicklow reporting vicious loud winds from last night, yet we in Meath had a few gales, nothing more than 20 to 30mph if even that, only way we cud hear the wind was to step outside:). Did the wind blow really bad from the west and then suddenly stop skiping from Louth, through Meath, into Kildare etc and then suddenly get really bad again around Dublin & Wicklow?? I can understand the high winds in the west but why did Dublin and Wickow get really bad winds when counties bordering had hardly anything.

I agree, we had absolutely nothing lastnight. There were days lastweek when it was far windier. I dont understand how dublin got bad winds?

DOCARCH

Obviously, I would suggest, something to do with the Dublin/Wicklow mountains, the wind direction and funnelling of the wind? The strong winds seemed to hug the east coast and most the Wicklow boardsies, afaik, live in the eastern half of Wicklow?

The wind here was pretty bad (but not exceptional I would say). Although I did record my highest wind speed, 43.1mph, since I got my weather station last July - note that I still have not put up my anemometer properly, so windspeeds were probably higher.

Supercell

I live at 204 metres elevation in a valley between Scarr mountain and a local hill (dunno if it even has a name).
Believe me, it was apocalyptic here last night - a wind thats almost straight north or south seems to be very strong here, also you really have to experience it to believe how loud a full gale sounds beside a evergreen forest, the noise through the tress is absolutely massive.
Wind has gone northerly here and has really gotten up again, I'm going to be very short of sleep come Wednesday morning I think.

Also see this picture posted earlier to see why us south easterners in particular experienced some pretty rough conditions last night.



Anyhow, enough of my crying, hope you all get some howling gales in the next couple of nights so as not to be left out

Snowbie

Wind would not blow as strong over land due to friction from elevated area's, hills, trees buildings and general ground itself.There are too many obstacles slowing the wind right down.
At significant height, the wind tends to be stronger than at sea level due to lower atmospheric pressure.

Around the coasts it is far windier as there is no friction over the water.

ninebeanrows

I think we should change the title of the thread from very strong winds to Severe Storm, i am actually worried some people might overlook this, the 18z paints an even severer picture.

Every chance of gusts above 80mph through the capital tomorrow nigt and Wednesday evening.

Scary stuff

Makes me question whether we should actually be looking for something like this..

Supercell

Eek, that IS a proper storm, no buts about it.
I agree WC, changing the title.
I've unimaginatively changed the title to "severe storm discussion", am open to suggestions, that chart really is THAT bad I think real damage could be done.

Supercell

Just checked out dew points for tomorrow night, close to zero around midnight in much of the country - so gale force winds and showers and freezing dew points, going to be interesting in showers which will be flying accross the country.

Sierra Oscar

So compared to last night, how bad will this be?

Supercell

Looks like it could be pretty rough for the northern half of the country.
Gale or severe gale force winds, heavy rain, low dew points, could be pretty bad.
In the southern half, gales with ocassional showers, most frequent in the west.

Weather BOFH

Met Eireann say on their website that Casement experiences stronger winds than the rest of Dublin when the wind is from the SW due to it's proximity to the mountains and I attest to that being just up the road, recorded a gust of 111 km/h last night and had to nail some bits of the shed back on!

When the wind is W/NW, like it will be tomorrow it doesn't seem to be nearly as bad out here.

ozchick

just looking at the news (UK) looks like it dropped south last night, but lots of warnings about tomorrow night, saying even into southern Scotland

Some nice wave footage there tonight from the south of England

sdanseo

Longfield wrote: »

Looks like it could be pretty rough for the northern half of the country.
Gale or severe gale force winds, heavy rain, low dew points, could be pretty bad.
In the southern half, gales with ocassional showers, most frequent in the west.

Worse than last night so? XCWeather's wind prediction for EIDW peaks out at 45mph sustained at around 3am Wednesday. I'm tempted to believe from what I've heard here that that may be a little optimistic?

ninebeanrows

nemonoid wrote: »

Met Eireann say on their website that Casement experiences stronger winds than the rest of Dublin when the wind is from the SW due to it's proximity to the mountains and I attest to that being just up the road, recorded a gust of 111 km/h last night and had to nail some bits of the shed back on!

When the wind is W/NW, like it will be tomorrow it doesn't seem to be nearly as bad out here.

Yes Dublin Airport and my location are very esposed to W, WNW winds, which are expected tomorrow!

Could be damage done tomorrow in the city, a few more runs to go though so it's course might alter slightly.

As in how it compares to todays storm, well for Dublin it will be a helluva lot worse. We hit 55mph last night? Tomorrow we'll hit 75mph maybe even more.

Weathercheck

Weathercheck wrote: »

Seriously ouch for much of Ireland from this thing, looks like a spell of 6/9 hours of intense winds.

What do the colours mean?

sdanseo

I was going over the speeds and trying to rate how much worse ~80mph was than 53-55mph. "Helluva lot" sounds like my answer

I wouldn't mind but the power here tends to be a bit unstable at the best of times let alone when every ESB pole for miles is on its side.

Deleted User wrote: »

What do the colours mean?

Dunno what units that scale is in...I've been looking at the barometer readings, tighter the isobars are packed as a general rule means more wind.

Paddy.1

We could be talking more squall than storm away from Ulster.

nacho libre

i notice some people are being more cicrumspect about this one:p

Longfield

Longfield wrote: »

Just checked out dew points for tomorrow night, close to zero around midnight in much of the country - so gale force winds and showers and freezing dew points, going to be interesting in showers which will be flying accross the country.

Remember yours and artictree's dewpoint will be lower than whats programmed in the nwp's because you are on high ground nestled in between even higher mountains.

Regarding last nights storm,I came across a couple of tree's down this morning here.

maquiladora

Looks a little more to the south.

Kippure

Tonights storm looks alot worse then mondays. Do people actually realise that yet?

Damomanye

i think some people are all 'stormed out' kippure and just dont want to know about it.
It looks a belter allright.

Sierra Oscar

Damomanye wrote: »

i think some people are all 'stormed out' kippure and just dont want to know about it.
It looks a belter allright.

Indeed - and the media I suspect will lie low...after what they predicted for Monday really was an overkill.

squonk

Personally I'm looking forward to it but I'm being cautious after what happened Monday. Also, Met Eireann aren't pegging it as anything overly dramtic. Windy alright but the temps they're forecasting don't seem to turn this into the blizzard fest that was being mentioned on the board here earlier. I'd like a good hail whiteout really just as a consolation! I'm sure though that once temps drop a bit and the wind rises that there will be plenty of posters back into the fray!

kerry1960

Kippure wrote: »

Tonights storm looks alot worse then mondays. Do people actually realise that yet?

oh no ,not again , ive had enough , before i go to work tell me my loc is out of the firing line this time , anyone , what's the latest.