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Ronaldo eh?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,097 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Nunu wrote: »
    No, you didn't:D

    bahaha. Egg & my face have a dinner date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    hamnegg wrote: »
    When that 1 game in 5(and its more like 1 in 20), is when ur back is to the wall u need a class player to deliver

    He is up there as one of the best in the worl at the moment. He has come on a huge amount since he arrived. If he matures and improves at this rate its scary how good he will become.

    Where he needs to improve is in the big games.

    but isnt he getting better in them already? his CL goals this year and game at the emirates show that no?

    he has been up there as one of the best in the world for the last 2 years, and rightly so.

    he's still a gimp though;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭hamnegg


    Mr Alan wrote: »

    he's still a gimp though;)

    Most sensible thing anyone has said here all day!!! including myself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    I haven't bothered reading the 5 pages of this thread. Because even the idea of it is ridiculous. His name is Cristiano RONALDO. He is clearly a good player. Stop being bitter and get over yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭hamnegg


    DSB wrote: »
    I haven't bothered reading the 5 pages of this thread. Because even the idea of it is ridiculous. His name is Cristiano RONALDO. He is clearly a good player. Stop being bitter and get over yourself.

    Its my God given right to be bitter!! I nor any1 else here said he wasn't a good player. Just doesn't turn it on when the chips are down


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    PHB wrote: »
    First off, players such as Gerrard, Van Nist, Henry, all great players, haven't been able to do this feat. Even in such a 'crap' league.

    Just on this specific point, I think its a load of crap. There's a reason the FA Cup is being won this year by somebody not of the top 4. The League cup was won by Spurs.
    Liverpool are under serious threat by 2 teams for their top 4 spot.
    The league winning tally is likely to be significantly lower.
    There is lots and lots and lots of class all over the league, players like Berbatov, Young, Areteta all doing fantastic.

    People havn't done great in the UEFA cup, I accept that, although I still expect Spurs to go through. Nonetheless, losing to Florentina in Italy, or PSV in Holland is not a bad result. They are doing well enough in the cups.
    But Bolton were able to beat Athletico Madrid.

    I don't think that the premiership has gotten worse in quality. What I do think is that there are about 4 top teams, 7-9 very good teams, 4-5 of which are of serious quality and can challenge the top 4 in most games, especially at home. and then the rest are crap.

    Also, I think the whole idea that the league used to be better is equally crap. First off, I don't think anyone on this board was around when Best was playing for United :) So I can't imagine anyone actually can remember and compare. Personally, I think since the 1990s that I started watching, the legue has gotten noticably better.

    p.s. Domination is such a silly requirement for Ronaldo. A midfield can dominate a game, wingers don't as much. They can produce some great stuff going forward, but they are much more reliant on others to give them the ball. They don't win the ball back, or dictate tempo. Ronaldo will never have a Keane like game vs. Juventus. He might have a great attackers game, and do some magic, but he's never gona do what Keane did, nor will he ever do what Gerrard did, it's not like he's gona revert to RB and defend amazingly like :)

    Ronaldo is a good player not a great player. Last year in Milan he was utterly owned by Gattuso and shown what real football is all about by Kaka' and Seedorf. Same goes for Rooney.

    mmmm....wingers who have dominated big games = Pavel Nedved. Had Real Madrid for breakfast in two CL semi finals. Messi is such a better all round player who dominates big games. Luis Figo, how many games has he dominated on his own. Donadoni...

    Ronaldo was muck against Lyon, an ok team. Did nothing against a nothing portsmouth side except whinge because they wouldn't let him use his "skill". He should ask Marco Van Basten about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Jesus stop being so stupid, Ronaldo is a great player, its simple.

    why is this stupid argument going on every ****ing week? its been done, if you dont think hes great fair enough, your point has been made, if you do think hes great your point has also been made.

    boring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    I think scoring in the quarter-finals and semi-finals of the FA Cup & Champions League, as well as finals of the FA Cup & League Cup count as "Big Games".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Dubit10


    kryogen wrote: »
    Jesus stop being so stupid, Ronaldo is a great player, its simple.

    why is this stupid argument going on every ****ing week? its been done, if you dont think hes great fair enough, your point has been made, if you do think hes great your point has also been made.

    boring

    Because he hasnt turned it on in big games on a consistent basis.When he does people will stop threads like this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Ronaldo is a good player not a great player. Last year in Milan he was utterly owned by Gattuso and shown what real football is all about by Kaka' and Seedorf. Same goes for Rooney.

    mmmm....wingers who have dominated big games = Pavel Nedved. Had Real Madrid for breakfast in two CL semi finals. Messi is such a better all round player who dominates big games. Luis Figo, how many games has he dominated on his own. Donadoni...

    Ronaldo was muck against Lyon, an ok team. Did nothing against a nothing portsmouth side except whinge because they wouldn't let him use his "skill". He should ask Marco Van Basten about that.

    I actually agree with you there. I think he is a good player, with a lot more potential. He's not at the level of Messi, for example, and yes, Gattuso (a world class player) ran rings around him.

    The boy has a lot of talent, but he has some way to go before he should be considered "World Class" , 2 or 3 more seasons like this one, and he can assume the crown, not yet though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    he played at an incredible level last season, this season he has surpassed that, thats playing at the most consistent top level in the world for 2 years. do you watch la liga and serie A as much as you seem to watch manchester united? its pathetic how some cant just acknowledge facts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    ssssh

    Clearly outplaying Roma(ahead of Milan in the table by a good amount of points and further in the CL this year) is less of an achievement than playing well against Milan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Unearthly wrote: »
    ssssh

    Clearly outplaying Roma(ahead of Milan in the table by a good amount of points and further in the CL this year) is less of an achievement than playing well against Milan

    i think you're missing the point some what. Ronaldo is a bit of a one dimensional player. his primary strengths are running at pace into space and his finishing. his weakness lies in creating space, if his team mates can't do it for him he wont be very successful. Messi and Kaka on the other hand are absolutely brilliant at creating space out of nothing, and weaving through tit knit situations. for me at least that's what places them on a pedestal above Ronaldo. going back to your example, Roma in fairness are a much more expansive side than Milan, that's why Ronaldo will always look better against them then Milan in my book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭vorbis


    As an Arsenal fan, Ronaldo is getting the same bull****e treatment that Henry used to get. Not a big game player blah blah blah.

    Its mostly jealously imo. Ronaldo is a player who performs exceptionally well for his team. Every other team in the world would start him if he was in their squad. That easily makes him world class imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    vorbis wrote: »
    As an Arsenal fan, Ronaldo is getting the same bull****e treatment that Henry used to get. Not a big game player blah blah blah.

    Its mostly jealously imo. Ronaldo is a player who performs exceptionally well for his team. Every other team in the world would start him if he was in their squad. That easily makes him world class imo.

    are we talking about the same Henry who by the end of his Arsenal career was having a very negative impact on the team? now that they don't rely on Henry to pull the strings Arsenal have looked so much a better team this year. Henry was a very very good finisher, but even so he was still always eclipsed by Zidane when playing for France. Zizou made things happen, Henry finished them, a very good player, but not a great. same deal with Ronaldo, can finish things but not as good when he needs to be called upon to conjour something upon on his own in fairness. Like with Henry, every team would play him, but not every team would be as reliant on him as United are imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    With Kaka already out of Europe this year, Messi injured, and with the Euro's on, there's a good chance that Ronaldo could propel himself to world player of the year.

    Still, even if he won that, we'd still have a similar thread on here :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    are we talking about the same Henry who by the end of his Arsenal career was having a very negative impact on the team? now that they don't rely on Henry to pull the strings Arsenal have looked so much a better team this year. Henry was a very very good finisher, but even so he was still always eclipsed by Zidane when playing for France. Zizou made things happen, Henry finished them, a very good player, but not a great. same deal with Ronaldo, can finish things but not as good when he needs to be called upon to conjour something upon on his own in fairness. Like with Henry, every team would play him, but not every team would be as reliant on him as United are imo.


    Jaysus now Henry is not a great player

    He has performed at every level there is!

    An example even if Ronaldo has a great European Championship and continues his CL campaign he won't get the credit by some people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    It amazes me how so many people get black and white confused with grey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    It's also amazing how many people talk brown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    astrofool wrote: »
    With Kaka already out of Europe this year, Messi injured, and with the Euro's on, there's a good chance that Ronaldo could propel himself to world player of the year.

    Still, even if he won that, we'd still have a similar thread on here :)

    :eek: Please don't even say that jokingly! Xavi, Messi, Eto'o, Trezeguet, Benzema, Totti, Vučinić, Buffon, David Villa, Torres, Luis Fabiano, Maldini, Cambiasso, anyone please...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    :eek: Please don't even say that jokingly! Xavi, Messi, Eto'o, Trezeguet, Benzema, Totti, Vučinić, Buffon, David Villa, Torres, Luis Fabiano, Maldini, Cambiasso, anyone please...

    None of those players have been up to Ronaldo's standard this season.

    Maldini? Wtf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    None of those players have been up to Ronaldo's standard this season.

    Maldini? Wtf?

    Except Xavi of course..... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    :eek: Please don't even say that jokingly! Xavi, Messi, Eto'o, Trezeguet, Benzema, Totti, Vučinić, Buffon, David Villa, Torres, Luis Fabiano, Maldini, Cambiasso, anyone please...

    awww does it hurt you that he scores so many goals? :*(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    None of those players have been up to Ronaldo's standard this season.

    Maldini? Wtf?

    Ronaldo does not deserve to be mentioned on the same website as Paolo Maldini. 612 appearances for Milan (e io sono juventino!). 5 Champions Leagues.

    Trezeguet heading for another year as capocannoniere top scorer in Italy.

    Messi hasn't scored as many goals against the likes of Derby and Fulham for your liking?

    Last time Ronaldo scored an text-book bicycle kick? He'd be too worried about ruining his haircut.

    When he gets a hatrick against Barca, Inter or whoever in a CL final I will become a united fan.

    ...sorry that was just ridiculous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Ronaldo does not deserve to be mentioned on the same website as Paolo Maldini. 612 appearances for Milan (e io sono juventino!). 5 Champions Leagues.

    Trezeguet heading for another year as capocannoniere top scorer in Italy.

    Messi hasn't scored as many goals against the likes of Derby and Fulham for your liking?

    Last time Ronaldo scored an text-book bicycle kick? He'd be too worried about ruining his haircut.

    When he gets a hatrick against Barca, Inter or whoever in a CL final I will become a united fan.

    ...sorry that was just ridiculous

    You're right, that post was ridiculous. Sure you didn't even mention Xavi once. WTF like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Ronaldo does not deserve to be mentioned on the same website as Paolo Maldini. 612 appearances for Milan (e io sono juventino!). 5 Champions Leagues.

    So how come you can mention Benzema, Vučinić, David Villa, Torres, Luis Fabiano...
    Last time Ronaldo scored an text-book bicycle kick? He'd be too worried about ruining his haircut.

    Someone get me a map, I'm lost.
    When he gets a hatrick against Barca, Inter or whoever I will become a united fan.

    Yeah and when Trezeguet, Benzema, Totti, Vučinić, Buffon, David Villa, Torres, Luis Fabiano, Maldini, Cambiasso score a hat-trick against those opponents I'll be your bitch.
    ...sorry that was just ridiculous

    Nice way to footnote your post. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »

    Yeah and when .....Torres, Luis Fabiano, Maldini, Cambiasso score a hat-trick against those opponents I'll be your bitch.

    Could be his bitch by this time tomorrow so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Could be his bitch by this time tomorrow so...

    Hehe. At least then I'd get to find out how old he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    So how come you can mention Benzema, Vučinić, David Villa, Torres, Luis Fabiano...

    Yeah and when Trezeguet, Benzema, Totti, Vučinić, Buffon, David Villa, Torres, Luis Fabiano, Maldini, Cambiasso score a hat-trick against those opponents I'll be your bitch.

    Someone get me a map, I'm lost. Wtf is a "text-book" free-kick??? He's scored probably five or six free kicks this season.

    Nice way to footnote your post. :)

    B-I-C-Y-C-L-E K-I-C-K

    You mean the EC and WC winning Trezeguet scoring golden goal? 255 app 155 goals for Juve. When Ronaldo gets anywhere near that we can compare.

    Buffon plays in goal good as he is I dont think he'll score a hat-trick to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    You mean the EC and WC winning Trezeguet scoring golden goal? 255 app 155 goals for Juve. When Ronaldo gets anywhere near that we can compare

    What about Benzema? How is he better than Ronaldo?

    68 games for Lyon, 23 goals. Thats 1-in-3. Ronaldo has 56 in 153 for United, the same, despite the fact that he's not even a striker.

    3 international goals, 2 of which were against the Faroe Islands.


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