pc do-gooders, what would u do with this scumbag?

utick

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhojcwkfgbsn/


personally i think this scumbag animal should be muzzled, locked in a cage for the rest of his life, unless anyone else has any other suggestions

AlmightyCushion

I'd let him go free and lock his parents up. This is clearly all their fault.

mikemac

He got an extra three years consectively?
I know sentances can be amended consecutivly or concurrently but can't remember which is which

So is he serving another three years or basically do the three years mean nothing as he'll be serving them anyway?

AngryHippie

Shark Bait.

Break His nose with a hurley, then drag him round the pacific behind a boat till the Mako's and Tiger sharks take car of him for you. Kinda like recycling, but with a real sense of satisfaction. What a fcuking scumbag

themadchef

Wow, he sounds like a barrel of laughs!

Candle lit dinner for two would be a nice treat for him (with Hannibal Lecter)

I'm sure i could find him a nice bottle of Chianti to was him down with.

AlmightyCushion

Consecutive means it'll be carried out after his first sentence is over. Concurrent means that he'll serve both at the same time.

mikemac

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Consecutive means it'll be carried out after his first sentence is over. Concurrent means that he'll serve both at the same time.

Thanks
So he'll be serving another three years, hurrah for the Irish justice system!

lorweld

OMG I feel sick after reading that. I don't envy the prison officers their jobs. As for why he was locked up in the first place imo he should have gotten a longer sentence than that!

Chinafoot

micmclo wrote: »

He got an extra three years consectively?
I know sentances can be amended consecutivly or concurrently but can't remember which is which

So is he serving another three years or basically do the three years mean nothing as he'll be serving them anyway?

Consecutively means added on to the sentence.

Edit: I always underestimate the speed of replies in AH

flanum

well personally...

i would get him and his accomplice strung up, suspended by their wrists either end of a long beam, suspended in the centre by a chain, a few metres off the ground. I would slide them along the beam until they were balancing perfectly (like a weighing scale)! i would then place a vat of sulphuric acid beneath each of them. by giving an ever-so-slight tip downward on one end, this would cause them to dip their toes in the acid, thus making them slightly lighter than the guy on the other end. this then would cause the heavier guy to tip down and get dipped into the acid, burning a few millimetres of flesh off his foot causing him in turn to be lighter than the first guy...... this should (if my calculations are correct) create a sort of entertaining "executive toy- perpetual motion" effect, the two guys would eventually be dissolved into nothing.

oh did i mention that they would be facing each other, so when they saw the effect the other person was causing to the upset fulcrum, they would start struggling, thus increasing the see-saw effect!

thats what id do!

Cunny-Funt

Set him on fire

utick

flanum wrote: »

well personally...

i would get him and his accomplice strung up, suspended by their wrists either end of a long beam, suspended in the centre by a chain, a few metres off the ground. I would slide them along the beam until they were balancing perfectly (like a weighing scale)! i would then place a vat of sulphuric acid beneath each of them. by giving an ever-so-slight tip downward on one end, this would cause them to dip their toes in the acid, thus making them slightly lighter than the guy on the other end. this then would cause the heavier guy to tip down and get dipped into the acid, burning a few millimetres of flesh off his foot causing him in turn to be lighter than the first guy...... this should (if my calculations are correct) create a sort of entertaining "executive toy- perpetual motion" effect, the two guys would eventually be dissolved into nothing.

oh did i mention that they would be facing each other, so when they saw the effect the other person was causing to the upset fulcrum, they would start struggling, thus increasing the see-saw effect!

thats what id do!

lol any chance you worked for saddam?

though seriously, 8 houses robbed, 5 people stabbed(one 9 times) and 2 men forced to rape a woman, all in one night? its amazing how many lives can be ffoked up by one guy is a short space of time

Karl Hungus

Just get one of those air guns they use for killing cattle. Animal doesn't even deserve a bullet wasted on him.

Ruu_Old

Let him loose and set some dogs after him or maybe some sort of show like the Running Man, at least we would be entertained.

TequilaMockingBird

OP, Where do the PC do gooders come into this?

bronte

What a sick sick guy :mad: Jesus, I actually don't know what I'd do with that one.

Dudess

"Close" to madness? Sounds like he crossed that line ages ago. He seems deranged and in need of psychiatric intervention. Maybe he needs to be moved to the Central Mental Hospital? He's clearly a danger to the staff where he's currently incarcerated. An absolute timebomb.

utick

sueme wrote: »

OP, Where do the PC do gooders come into this?

they always seem to make excuses for criminals, and feel they do not deserve to be held responsible for there actions

Dennis the Stone

This fuc king moron deserves a shovel to the head

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ok, as a liberal I'm going to bite the bullet and play Devil's advocate...

First off, I think he should serve the FULL amount of his sentence. None of this parole, "good beahveiour" crap. Thirteen for the original offence plus three for this one, should, at the very least, keep him behind bars until 2024.

Possiblity of sending him to CMH in Dundrum? Just an idea (after 2024, I mean). Feel free to attack (but leave the knives and clubs at the desk, ta.)

The problem then is simple: he gets out.

Question for the non-PC tabloid-readers: how do you make sure he's not going to do it again? Fear isn't working. Do we really want to go down the road of causing pain? Some creative ideas there - someone's been paying attention to Itchy and Scratchy.

So. What next?

flanum

Dudess wrote: »

"Close" to madness? Sounds like he crossed that line ages ago. He seems deranged and in need of psychiatric intervention. Maybe he needs to be moved to the Central Mental Hospital? He's clearly a danger to the staff where he's currently incarcerated. An absolute timebomb.

no sorry, i dont believe in that soft option for scum like this. i personnally would have no hesitation in taking this ****er out for a "spin". i know id sleep like a ****ing baby afterwards too!

Ulysses Gaze

though seriously, 8 houses robbed, 5 people stabbed(one 9 times) and 2 men forced to rape a woman, all in one night? its amazing how many lives can be ffoked up by one guy is a short space of time

....and yet this POS gets just 13 years for breaking and entering into other peoples homes at night, assault causing actual to grevious bodily harm (on 5 people)?

So if we add the 3 years to his sentence he'll be out before he's 40?

He should have got at least double that sentence. As you said, look how many lives the scum has damaged.

randylonghorn

Tbh, nobody can be that much of an animal and actually be sane.

One advantage of committing him to a high-security mental facility is that the time span he spends there is not judicially determinable ... he could theoretically be incarcerated for the rest of his natural life, which seems like the safest option for the rest of us.

Raspberry

He needs help more than punishment. We're living in the 21st century. We're supposed to be civilised. While putting this criminal through sever pain would seem like a good idea to fuel your hatred, it's not justice. True justice is helping people overcome their problems. If you can help this guy in to seeing that what he did was wrong, the fact that he realises that he was wrong and has to live with that for the rest of his life is almost punishment enough. Jail is supposed to be there for rehabilitation as well as to remove dangerous people from society. If someone rapes someone as a result of a mental disorder, as much as you'd like to think that they're a monster, they're not to blame.

utick

Raspberry wrote: »

He needs help more than punishment. We're living in the 21st century. We're supposed to be civilised. While putting this criminal through sever pain would seem like a good idea to fuel your hatred, it's not justice. True justice is helping people overcome their problems. If you can help this guy in to seeing that what he did was wrong, the fact that he realises that he was wrong and has to live with that for the rest of his life is almost punishment enough. Jail is supposed to be there for rehabilitation as well as to remove dangerous people from society. If someone rapes someone as a result of a mental disorder, as much as you'd like to think that they're a monster, they're not to blame.

so what you are saying is he cant tell the diffference between right and wrong? well howcome his lawyer brought up the fact that this scumbags mother was kicked in the stomach when she was pregnant as a reason for a lesser sentance, if he cant see stabbing someone is wrong, i dont think seeing his mother kicked would seem wrong to him

It wasn't me!

Yes they are. Under any conceivable circumstances surrounding this guy, he is unquestionably guilty, mental disorder (and I say that with tongue lodged firmly in cheek) or not.

tallaght01

I'm a liberal PC do-gooder. But I do worry about this guy getting out in 13 years plus 18months extra (remember, the judge suspended his final 18months).

My sister will be a 33 year old woman at that time. I don't fancy the thoughts of her being at home in her flat on her own with this guy walking the streets.

randylonghorn

utick wrote: »

well howcome his lawyer brought up the fact that this scumbags mother was kicked in the stomach when she was pregnant as a reason for a lesser sentance, if he cant see stabbing someone is wrong, i dont think seeing his mother kicked would seem wrong to him

I think the lawyer was more likely arguing that damage was done to the pre-natal child ...

Victor

utick wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhojcwkfgbsn/
personally i think this scumbag animal should be muzzled, locked in a cage for the rest of his life, unless anyone else has any other suggestions

AngryHippie wrote: »

Shark Bait. Break His nose with a hurley, then drag him round the pacific behind a boat till the Mako's and Tiger sharks take car of him for you. Kinda like recycling, but with a real sense of satisfaction. What a fcuking scumbag

themadchef wrote: »

Wow, he sounds like a barrel of laughs! Candle lit dinner for two would be a nice treat for him (with Hannibal Lecter) I'm sure i could find him a nice bottle of Chianti to was him down with.

flanum wrote: »

well personally... i would get him and his accomplice strung up, suspended by their wrists either end of a long beam, suspended in the centre by a chain, a few metres off the ground. I would slide them along the beam until they were balancing perfectly (like a weighing scale)! i would then place a vat of sulphuric acid beneath each of them. by giving an ever-so-slight tip downward on one end, this would cause them to dip their toes in the acid, thus making them slightly lighter than the guy on the other end. this then would cause the heavier guy to tip down and get dipped into the acid, burning a few millimetres of flesh off his foot causing him in turn to be lighter than the first guy...... this should (if my calculations are correct) create a sort of entertaining "executive toy- perpetual motion" effect, the two guys would eventually be dissolved into nothing. oh did i mention that they would be facing each other, so when they saw the effect the other person was causing to the upset fulcrum, they would start struggling, thus increasing the see-saw effect!
thats what id do!

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Set him on fire

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Just get one of those air guns they use for killing cattle. Animal doesn't even deserve a bullet wasted on him.

Ruu wrote: »

Let him loose and set some dogs after him or maybe some sort of show like the Running Man, at least we would be entertained.

Tago Mago wrote: »

This fuc king moron deserves a shovel to the head

Much anger?

So what makes your violence acceptable if his violence is unacceptable?

Cantab.

Victor wrote: »

Much anger?

So what makes your violence acceptable if his violence is unacceptable?

I have to agree Victor.

What the man did is shocking. And his behaviour in prison is terrible.

It's a very sad state of affairs and somebody at the end of the day has to deal with him.

I guess all the prison people can do is take away his privileges one after another until he conforms. If this doesn't work, then unfortunately, the mental hospital might be the only solution.

I don't agree with any kind of physical punishment in a civilised country. Nor do I agree with solitary confinement or life sentences without parole.

This man needs to conform to the prison system and cop himself on. Unfortunately, he's going to have to learn the very hard way because he never got the opportunity to learn the easy way (imparted via a stable and loving family).

The whole thing is very very sad.

Jay D

utick wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhojcwkfgbsn/


personally i think this scumbag animal should be muzzled, locked in a cage for the rest of his life, unless anyone else has any other suggestions

personally and all that I would love to let you two into a giant cage
It would be interesting to see how different your attitude might be then.

Ruskie4Rent

Cantab. wrote: »

This man needs to conform to the prison system and cop himself on. Unfortunately, he's going to have to learn the very hard way because he never got the opportunity to learn the easy way (imparted via a stable and loving family).

I don't think telling this guy to 'cop on' will do much to be fair. He's obviously insane.
Its a difficult thing trying to decide what to do with criminals like this. On the one hand, his actions are disgusting, and the anger shown on this thread seems kind of understandable. There is still no way we can justify physical punishment though.

galwayrush

Should be special extra punishments for all Scumbags, and prison for pc assholes who take up for them.

RuailleBuaille

If prisons worked, there'd be nobody in them. I agree he's a total scumbag but locking him up for 23 hours a day is hardly the way to rehabilitate him. And that is essentially why he is there, as his sentence means he'll be out eventually. CRH sounds like a more promising alternative but you have to worry that he'd continue to do the same. Personally, I think some people are so drenched in violence that there IS no rehabilitation, their brains are hardwired to react in extremely different ways and prison only compounds that. I'm not a 'PC do-gooder', violence is violence, there are no shades of acceptability.

Ruskie4Rent

What is all this about 'pc do-gooders'? What does political correctness have to do not believing this person should be lynched? Its more common sence as opposed to reactionary ignorance.

SimpleSam06

Defence counsel, Ms Caroline Biggs, said Phelan had "felt he was losing his mind" and was annoyed that day as he felt his "listener" from the Samaritans had been made leave his cell half an hour early.

Oh.

Well thats alright then.

victor wrote:

So what makes your violence acceptable if his violence is unacceptable?

An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind, as they say. However is it possible that sometimes violence is the correct response, and that ruling it out entirely is in fact less humane than the alternatives? Would a lobotomy be a better solution?

The fact is that incarceration against a person's will is a form of violence, punishment for crimes notwithstanding. Where we draw the line in the amount of violence to apply might define us as a society, but maybe we've drawn the line in the wrong place.

Degsy

I'd nail the ****er to a door in front of his family and skin him alive with a scalpel and a pair of pliers.Then i'd rub him down with salt,burn off hos feet with a blowtorch before raping him to death with a breadknife.Hypothetically of course.

Red Hand

I'd make him watch Questions and Answers.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Degsy wrote: »

I'd nail the ****er to a door in front of his family and skin him alive with a scalpel and a pair of pliers.Then i'd rub him down with salt,burn off hos feet with a blowtorch before raping him to death with a breadknife.Hypothetically of course.

Ah I can see it now: Man gets two year jail term for nailed a man to a door in front of his family and skinning him alive with a scalpel and a pair of pliers. Then rubbing him down with salt, burnning off his feet with a blowtorch before raping him to death with a breadknife .

Can we do the same too you as part of your sentence?:D:D

Hang on, no: someone would have to do it to me.... and then someone would have to do it to him.... and then.... **** my head hurts. Hypothetically, of course...

Naikon

Huge vat + boiling oil = pain.

flanum

ok non-violent then...... air lift the **** and drop him in the middle of the arctic with a few tins of beans and a knife. let him see how good he is when he has to fend for himself!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

flanum wrote: »

ok non-violent then...... air lift the **** and drop him in the middle of the arctic with a few tins of beans and a knife. let him see how good he is when he has to fend for himself!

Now here, you could be on to something.

On a serious note, how would people react to forced military service? Or, at least a military style jail?

Cantab.

Some of the crap people are talking on here -- the dumb angry mob mentality at play.

We're civilised humans and nobody deserves to be tortured, no matter what they've done.

Ruskie4Rent

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Now here, you could be on to something.

On a serious note, how would people react to forced military service? Or, at least a military style jail?

Yes. Give the nutter a gun. Great idea.

Fremen

I think military service sounds like a decent idea, after a fairly lengthy jail sentence as the "punishment" part of his punishment. It would act as a kind of "halfway house" between prison and civilisation.

The thing is, if this guy has nothing to lose, he can pretty much do whatever the f**k he likes and not care about the consequences. If he had some "normal" friends, or at least acquaintances (of the non-psycho variety), and some self-repsect, he might think differently about the way he acts. The army might actually put him in such a position.

At the moment, it's pretty clear that he can't be allowed to walk the streets. We have to recognise that he and people like him will get out sooner or later. The only other options in dealing with them are to lock them up for life at a cost of millions per person to the state, or to kill them.

Personally, I don't think either of the remaining options are reasonable: the money would be better spent just about anywhere you could mention, and I don't support the death penalty.

Actually, maybe we could go sharia on his ass and cut off his hands, then he couldn't hurt anyone. No, no , dammit, he could still headbutt...

Cantab.

Fremen wrote: »

I think military service sounds like a decent idea, after a fairly lengthy jail sentence as the "punishment" part of his punishment. It would act as a kind of "halfway house" between prison and civilisation.

I wouldn't wish the army upon either a sane or an insane person.

And besides, why should the army take someone with a criminal record on board? It's not their job.

thelordofcheese

Well personally, I'd give him a big slice of cake and a hug, everyone likes cake don't they?
I know I do.

SimpleSam06

Fremen wrote: »

The only other options in dealing with them are to lock them up for life at a cost of millions per person to the state, or to kill them.

Depends on the state you lock them up in, there are many states they could be locked away in for a song and a dance...

Clytus

If he did that in the States hed be carted off to one of those "Super-Max" prisons. He'd be locked up 23 hours a day....have no contact with any other prisoner and no visits. Its basically solitary for a couple of years.

Its been shown to work...and when he learns to behave himself hes let back into a normal Max security unit.

But of course the Pinko-Liberals dont think thats nice to do to people.

Fremen

Its been shown to work...and when he learns to behave himself hes let back into a normal Max security unit.

I think wikipedia puts it best when it says [citation needed]

But of course the Pinko-Liberals dont think thats nice to do to people.

This is what I hate about US politics. It's not enough to be right, you have to denounce the other side and ridicule them too. I think in any adult debate, you should be prepared to recognise that the other side is just as smart as you are, and that they have a different point of view which may, in fact, be valid.

Karlusss

The people who want to string criminals up by the bollocks are the people who end up stringing people up by the bollocks and being sent to prison and having their story posted on boards.ie

Keep your sadist fantasies in your dreams, lads.