best tool for wild boar??

Tac

hello all,

im off to germany shortly on driven boar hunting. anyone got advice for me on what is the best tool for the job? i have a tikka t3 varmint in .308 win, but i was thinking of trading up to a .30-06 springfield or .300 winchester magnum in a t3 super-varmint for the job. i have got the optics sorted, a nightforce 2.5-10x24.

whats the 30-06 and the .300 win mag like? :rolleyes:

any advice?

jwshooter

Tac wrote: »

hello all,

im off to germany shortly on driven boar hunting. anyone got advice for me on what is the best tool for the job? i have a tikka t3 varmint in .308 win, but i was thinking of trading up to a .30-06 springfield or .300 winchester magnum in a t3 super-varmint for the job. i have got the optics sorted, a nightforce 2.5-10x24.

whats the 30-06 and the .300 win mag like? :rolleyes:

any advice?

i shot a 300 win mag a few weeks ago in tikka T3 only lovely too shoot with a t8 on sub inch at 100 . but if you were going to use the rifle in ireland i would go for the 06 .john greene has a nearly new 06 sako in waterford i had to drag myself away from it last week a rifle worth the money it was .. if you go the 300 way pm me for a number.

Grizzly 45

308 will do all right if you use a heavy enough bullet.Dunno if a varmit rifle would be the best as most boar hunting is driven in wooded areas.
I have used a 12 GA with 21 in barrel semi auto,and rifle sights.
You need a fast handling rifle.Alot of hunters are going to the HK and Mauser semi autos Unless they are going to put you in a tree stand on a wallow to wait for the boar then a varmit is fine.. You dont want to be lugging that varmit rifle all day on a treibjagd. Use a fixed power scope 6X is fine even on a tree stand.
The 30 06 is fine too forpig hunting .Best one I ever used for hunting over there was a surplus Garand 30 06 with nothing added.Dropped four pigs from six in a run.
Just make sure your shot is well true,and approach the downed pig with great caution.IE gun on port arms with one ready to go,saftey on of course.Wild boar are the last of West Europes dangerous game and dont take kindly to being shot!!!! Better still let the dogs get in first to see if it is dead.
Whatever, shoot well with whatever you take and "Waidmannsheil."

Tac

thanks jwshooter and grizzly45,

only joined this forum tonight, so what does "pm" me for a number mean?
the .300 win mag appears to be a fine round, flat shooting and hard hitting. then again, so does the .30-06 spr.!!

the reason i was looking at the t3 super varmint was;
1) its at the right money,
2) its not as heavy as a full blown target rifle, {i do a small bit of target shooting as well}
3) i could use it for targets also.......

i dont really mind the weight of the gun, as i have a sako 75 varmint in 6.5x55se i use for deer here at home, and its not the lightest of tools, but it works for me, as the weight helps me to hold her steady.

calibre is the only thing?? i dont know what to go for.... i guess what i want is a boar / target tool,,,or the best compromise in between!!
check out "wild boar hunting" on youtube.....some very funny {and sore} video clips!!

ivanthehunter

Whats the right money?? tac, pm means to send a private message (pm) jwshooter wants you to click on his name tag and then click the box for sending a pm,, then you and him can have a heart to heart ha ha

Tac

aroiund 1300yoyo's,,,,,i gave 1100 for my varmint, and the only difference is that the super-varmint has the tactical stock and picatinny rail.

how does that sound to you?

Grizzly 45

Tac,you are kind of looking for both a saw and a hammer.A target and hunting rifle are two different creatures.The deer /target cals here are not really suitable for German wild boar.Minimum calibre for them are 308 and upwards,even so regulated so I belive in German hunting law. You could get away with a 308 as a target rifle as well,but you would be looking at somthing like a Remington BDL varmit heavy barrel.Then the weight will kill you on a long day lugging that around on a driven shoot.Plus unless you really practise with it second follow up shots are going to be dead slow.You will need to be quick for boar.Would deffo have a look around Germany and chat to the hunters as what they use.But proably you are looking at a 308 anyway.

jwshooter

Tac wrote: »

thanks jwshooter and grizzly45,

only joined this forum tonight, so what does "pm" me for a number mean?
the .300 win mag appears to be a fine round, flat shooting and hard hitting. then again, so does the .30-06 spr.!!

the reason i was looking at the t3 super varmint was;
1) its at the right money,
2) its not as heavy as a full blown target rifle, {i do a small bit of target shooting as well}
3) i could use it for targets also.......

i dont really mind the weight of the gun, as i have a sako 75 varmint in 6.5x55se i use for deer here at home, and its not the lightest of tools, but it works for me, as the weight helps me to hold her steady.

calibre is the only thing?? i dont know what to go for.... i guess what i want is a boar / target tool,,,or the best compromise in between!!
check out "wild boar hunting" on youtube.....some very funny {and sore} video clips!!

coming up from 6.5 //308 too 300 win mag your into a big gun by our standards .it can push a bit ..boar are shot mostly a lot less than a hundred yards and the one john greene has is in as new sako 75 in 30.06 and is a 1000 bucks .270 would also cover what you want with a 150 or 163 gr bullet in it

Tac

yeah, i know what you mean.....will probably go for the t3 super-varmint in .30-06 spr.......the t3 varmint that i have at the moment in .308 win, i cant complain about it, good reliable gun that does what it is supposed to do.

ive chatted to a few guys bout the boar round, some say .308 with 180 grain loads, others say the .30-06spr as there is a greater variety of bullet weights, that little bit extra stopping power,,,,etc,,etc..

i have 3 rifles at the moment, .220 swift, the 6.5x55 and the .308win,,,,,ideally id like to hold on to all, and get a 9.3x64 or sumething like that specially for hogs, but superintendent will run me if he sees me coming with another rifle appliction, thats the reason i was hoping to get a rifle that would do me for the "odd" day at the range, and more so,,hunting boar.

thanks for all you're views guys, much appreciated! :cool:

Rovi

Here you go:
Combination Boar Spear Pole Gun

Tac

hahahahahaha!! good one rovi!

Double Barrel

:D:D
You're on Rovi. :cool:
I will cover you just in case things get hairy. :D

Double Barrel

Tac
I would stay with the.308 and a proven 180 gr cartridge. Norma's Oryx is a bonded all-around bullet that can put a pig down on the spot. http://www.norma.cc/sortimentjakt.asp?Kaliber=22&Lang=2&Kalibernamn=.308%20Win

Aim for the shoulder.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/tintype1/Hunting%20-%20General/boar_anatomy.jpg

I use a 7x65R double rifle for boar but have shot them with a .243, all the way up to 30.06 and 9.3x74R. Twelve gauge slugs work wonders on close-in boar in heavy cover . They will all work, some better than others but a well placed, medium caliber bullet will kill just about anything. Location, location, location. Put the bullet where it counts.

meathstevie

.308, .300 win mag, .30-06 will all do the job but I'd be a bit worried about the speed of a follow up shot with a regular bolt action.

Tac

cheers guys,,,,,, food for thought. :rolleyes:

Tac

meathstevie, i see where youre coming from with the speed of a bolt action follow up shot, but if things hay-wire on me, and miss the hog, and he decides to have a go for me, ill be up the nearest tree like a cat on steriods!! .........browning BAR would be a great job though!!

meathstevie

Tac, my old man used to have one of those in .300 win mag. He shot boar, roe deer and red deer with it. Probably the finest ever semi-auto hunting rifle ever to come out of Liege.

Grizzly 45

Better off then with a HK model??[forgot which one it is] in 30 06. 4 shots
It is well tougher than the BAR,built on the HK assault rifle system and in a calibre that wont need you mucking about with precise shot placement when a 150 kg plus boar decides you are in it's way.Only it has a very VIOLENT ejection [as most HK weapons,chucks it's brass 10 meters to the right.]
As for the boar spear.If you are really "dead hard" you can still hunt them in Germany with a Sau Feder[Boar spear]and a pack of dogs. It is legal as an injured boar can be brought to bay with a pack of dogs[usually German Terriers].your job is then to go with the spear and when the boar senses you ,it will charge and run up the spear until it hits the cross gaurd.
You dont chuck this spear it is used as a lance type weapon and is a massive yoke made from 4in thick 2meter long seasoned oak with a spear blade of appx 6ins width. It's not for everyone.BUT it is considerd a fair challenge in a German "hunting court".To sort out differences of opinion!:D

Traumadoc

I used a 30.06 for big pigs (120kg+) and it dropped them every time.

meathstevie

Grizzly, same story with the BAR. The action and cilinder are very similar to the FN FAL. The HK you're thinking about is probably the HK G3. That's been built in few calibers as well, mainly 7.62 NATO but I wouldn't be too surprised if at some stage it has been chambered for .30-06. Same story with the FAL, there's a bit of variation of calibers in that jobbie as well.

Tac

will propably go the .30-06spr route,,,,,,now which tool for the job. i got the seeland dvd, "wild boar fever",, good watch. all the guys in that are using Sauer s202 take-downs in bolt actions. some of the shots are truely awesome! the "aim-point" sights seem to be the business for that driven shoot as well.

i got a catalogue from beechwood sports in the uk, on the Mauser M03. fab piece of kit.....pricey though, but i guess one gets what they pay for.

any one have a Mauser? or experience with one?

Grizzly 45

Meathstive,
It is the HKSLB 2000 in 3006.Dunno if they make them anymore,but the only thing it has in common with the G3 is the delayed Roller locking action.Hmm didnt realise the FN BAR was built on the FAL action.
Mauser is a fine weapon,and you pay for quality.Personally I find the loooongg bolt travel a PITA.Not helping being a Southpaw either!
Suggest when you are over in Germany check out Frankonia or Kettner or some local gun stores as to what is available.Why pay over the odds in STG when you can buy in Euros and have a more intresting choice??

meathstevie

Was quite familiar with the Kettner store in Antwerp, you could spend hours there and you'd need a bucket to collect your saliva... . As for the BAR & the FAL, they wouldn't be identical but you can definitely see where the designers and engineers got their inspiration from. At the end of the day there's only so many ways to make make a semi-auto or automatic center fire action I suppose.

By the way, if you ever find yourself anywhere near this place go and have a look and have sweet dreams for the next year or so... http://www.lebeau-courally.com/index.php?page=home and this lad wouldn't be half cooked either http://bliki.web.shphosting.com

Sika_Stalker

A sauer 202 stutzen with a swarovski 1.5-6x42 scope in 308 is the right job for the boar my father used his one in poland 2 years ago and shot some of the best shots in his life there, the short action and short barrel is the perfect combination for the boar because that is what it was designed for. Notting beats the driven boars

Tac

just ordered a Tikka T-3 Tactical in .300 Winchester Magnum!

i handled one yesterday and personally i dont find them too heavey at all. i reckon ive made a good choice, 1) good hard hitting calibre 2) accurate rifle 3) can use it on a range too.

now, because the .300 Win Mag is a special order, all i have to do is wait 6 months ............. :cool:

lordarpad

classic German calibres for the purpose are 8x57 IS and 9.3x62

lordarpad

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Tac,you are kind of looking for both a saw and a hammer.A target and hunting rifle are two different creatures.The deer /target cals here are not really suitable for German wild boar.Minimum calibre for them are 308 and upwards,even so regulated so I belive in German hunting law. You could get away with a 308 as a target rifle as well,but you would be looking at somthing like a Remington BDL varmit heavy barrel.Then the weight will kill you on a long day lugging that around on a driven shoot.Plus unless you really practise with it second follow up shots are going to be dead slow.You will need to be quick for boar.Would deffo have a look around Germany and chat to the hunters as what they use.But proably you are looking at a 308 anyway.

minimum 6.5mm and 2000J for anything bigger than roe deer.

Pkiernan

I have shot 6 wild pigs, with everything from a 44 revolver to a 338 Win Mag.

A 308 or 30-06 with 180 gr bullets is more than ideal.

For running pigs, it is nearly impossible to beat a 12ga with Brenneke slugs (assuming 100 yard or less shots_ - literally bowls them over.

I am dying to hunt wild pigs now that I am back in Ireland, and would appreciate any info or help please!!

Thanks,
Paul.