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Menacing entity

  • 06-03-2008 8:58pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭


    Hi. A friend of mine from boards suggested that I post here to see if I might be able to get some advice. I apologize for the length of this, but it is all important . Here's the scoop. I recently inherited the family home after the passing of my mum. At the time I loved where I was living and didn't want to move back there. But financially it didn't make sense for me not to. a month after I moved back my son was forced to move back as well, even though he didn't want to either. My great-grandfather had the house built, and it has always been in the family. Growing up we have all experienced differing degrees of paranormal activity. It never bothered us because we knew it was deceased family members just having a laugh at our expense. As an example, there are three bedrooms on the top floor of the house and we have all been up there alone and heard someone call out our names to the point where would all say "What?" Mind you, we are always alone in the house when this happens.

    Anyway, over the past few weeks things have changed. In particular this week. Saturday night I was alone in the house. Something happened to me which I can't explain and I started to flip out and punch and kick things. Let me say that this completely the opposite of my personality! I am a very laid back and even keeled person. I was so upset that I was going to phone my son and ask him to come home because there was something terribly wrong with me. But I managed to calm myself down and to breathe. I was very confused and upset over my behavior.

    On Monday night I had a terrible nightmare. I screamed in the dream and woke myself up. I was terrified. I looked at the clock on my bedside table and it was just before half 12. I told my son about the dream the next night. He sleeps in one of the bedrooms on the top floor. I am on the ground floor. He said the he had decided sometime after midnight to go out on the back deck and have a smoke. There is a door halfway down the staircase in the back hall. When he went to grab the door knob he stopped and pulled his hand away. He felt some kind of menacing energy or force and the flashlight that he was carrying went dead. This is at approximately the same time that I was having my nightmare.

    Last night I had anither nightmare. It was nearly the same as the one that I had on Monday night with the exception that my dog and my dad (who both passed) were there trying to protect me. Both of these nightmares took place in my bed in my dreams. And they both involved a light eminating through a door off of my bedroom.

    My son and I think there may be something menacing in the house. We don't know what it is or where it came from, but I can honestly say that I have never felt anything like that in my home in my entire life.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on something we can do to perhaps cleanse the house or protect it?

    If you need more detail on the other things that are happening you can PM me.

    Thank you for any help or advice you might be able to give. I'm really tired and I just want to be able to sleep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I'll drop you a PM on this in the morning but I would recommend getting someone in to take a look. I actually might know someone near enough to you that could help but I'll see whats what.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    Thank you 6th.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Going on what was just posted it is difficult to call. I am sorry to here about your mother passing but I was wondering could this be grief related. Moving back into the family home can stir up some strong emotions which could have made you react in a freaked out state (where you thinking about things involving your mom or family life?)

    Sometimes also when a presence in a house comes in it can come in very strong causing you to feel that it needs to be rejected or your initial reaction reaction would be to push it away. I am not suguesting this but sometimes when you enter the engery feel it calms down and it becomes clearer to who it is. Could it be possible that your fathers and the dogs presence in the dream could also mean that they want you to know you are safe.

    At the end of the day only you can be sure of any of this and how you feel. If it makes you feel more comfortable and more in control to get someone in to check it out then that would be a good option.

    Just remember you are in control and this is your home. Let us know how you get on what ever you choose and good luck....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    kshiel wrote: »
    Going on what was just posted it is difficult to call. I am sorry to here about your mother passing but I was wondering could this be grief related. Moving back into the family home can stir up some strong emotions which could have made you react in a freaked out state (where you thinking about things involving your mom or family life?)

    Sometimes also when a presence in a house comes in it can come in very strong causing you to feel that it needs to be rejected or your initial reaction reaction would be to push it away. I am not suguesting this but sometimes when you enter the engery feel it calms down and it becomes clearer to who it is. Could it be possible that your fathers and the dogs presence in the dream could also mean that they want you to know you are safe.

    At the end of the day only you can be sure of any of this and how you feel. If it makes you feel more comfortable and more in control to get someone in to check it out then that would be a good option.

    Just remember you are in control and this is your home. Let us know how you get on what ever you choose and good luck....

    Thanks kshiel. You make some very valid points. But my mum passed away a year ago on Christmas Day. I've dealt with the grief and moved on. Though I do still have my moments. This is a very recent event. I think that I'm sensitive to the energies in this house. I always have been. And I think I may be responsible in some wy for letting this new thing, for lack of a better word, into my home. I'm not saying that I invited it in, more that I let it in. I don't believe that it belongs here or is a part of the history of the house or the family. I feel that the reason my dad and my dog were in the dream is because they wnt me to know that they are trying to protect me. Which is comforting. But I also feel that they, more deceased relatives, are not strong enough to defend against it.

    I have to say here that the majority of the time I am fine being here and the house is peaceful. But between midnight and 3ish AM things are very different.

    I've done a few things tonight to protect myself while I sleep. Fingers crossed that I can sleep!


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    I hope I dont come across as naive here, but I want to stress that you are always safe. You are always protected. This presence may scare you and make itself known, but it cannot harm you. Even if your mind says your father etc are not enough to protect you, you have it within yourself to be well protected. There are ways you can make yourself feel more secure, based on your own beliefs, such as prayer or ritual. These can strengthen the natural protection you posess anyway.

    I agree with Ksheil that if you relax and loose the fear, you may begin to undertstand better what it is and why it is there with you. Once you have that knowledge you will find it much easier to request (or demand) that it leave you house and you alone.

    I know all that is easy for me to say, Im not waking in a cold sweat at 3am. But I have been there. What Im saying is what has worked for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I'm dropped you a PM to a spiritualist group in your area that should be just what you need.

    Hope you get sorted and come back and let us know all is ok ;)

    6th


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    Funny you should say that KtK. That's exactly what I told myself last night. That it couldn't hurt me and that it's MY house. And there were no nightmares last night thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    I think these occult forces want the house for themselves. They are clearly using the spiritual energy of the house as a gateway into this world. I would stick it out though.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    topper75 wrote: »
    I think these occult forces want the house for themselves. They are clearly using the spiritual energy of the house as a gateway into this world. I would stick it out though.
    Have to say, I never see it that way, I think thats a very Hollywood way to look at it. (Reminds me of the film poltergeist). We are the beacons to the spirit world, they interact with us, not bricks and mortar. Sometimes spirits hang about their former homes from where they lived, but thats different. I cant see 'them' ultimately wanting just a house. But am open to opinion.

    Glad you had a good night free2fly. Your story made me think, I had an experience lately where I dreamt of being in the room just as I really was, like you. It was a spirit of a small boy that came into the dream (as in the room) and he scared the living daylights out of me at the time. But later, I looked into it and pretty much sent him on his way as I couldnt help him, which was a pity. But I acknowledged him, and didnt get bothered again.:)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,664 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    KtK and Kshiel have summed it up here OP. Unfortunately hollywood has polluted our minds about spiritual encounters.

    Dont read too much into your dreams for the moment as they could be related to the stress you are under rather than the spiritual activity. I dont want to re-hash points already well made by the guys here but they definitely have it covered! :)

    Did you have any joy with the people 6th put you in touch with?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    faceman wrote: »
    KtK and Kshiel have summed it up here OP. Unfortunately hollywood has polluted our minds about spiritual encounters.

    Dont read too much into your dreams for the moment as they could be related to the stress you are under rather than the spiritual activity. I dont want to re-hash points already well made by the guys here but they definitely have it covered! :)

    Did you have any joy with the people 6th put you in touch with?

    I just read 6th's PM. Thank you 6th. I'm going to contact them over the weekend.

    Funny thing is faceman, there actually isn't any stress in my life at the moment. I have a good job, a great family and am in good health.

    I'll keep you all posted on how things go over the weekend. And thank you all for your words of comfort and encouragement :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    I was glad to read you had a good night without interuption and I hope the people who 6th has put you in touch with are able to help you which I am sure they will.

    I have had countless number of dreams that have happened within the location of where I have fallen asleep and usually I would have been aware i was dreaming or sometimes I wouldn't have known I was asleep until I awoke, it took me some time to figure out who was trying to contact me during the dream for the same reasons you had, I was to scared and rejected the energy as to me at that time it was not wrong but not natural if you know what I mean but to cut a long story short it has turn out over the last few years a wounderful re-conection with a person on the spirit side occured that I would not have had if I hadn't decided to take control and not let fear rule or initial reactions to control the situation.

    Let us know how you get on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 225 ✭✭calahans


    You say that there was always activity in the house and that you thought it was deceased member of your family having a laugh? Could I suggest that when you moved back you were worried about this at some unconscious level and that was manifesting itself in your dreams?

    I used to get a lot of nightmares (over years) at the same time I was in denial about something. Once I faced up to the problem the nightmares disappeared.

    I suppose what I am trying to say is that there are no ghosts. You need look no further than reality


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    calahans wrote: »
    You say that there was always activity in the house and that you thought it was deceased member of your family having a laugh? Could I suggest that when you moved back you were worried about this at some unconscious level and that was manifesting itself in your dreams?

    I used to get a lot of nightmares (over years) at the same time I was in denial about something. Once I faced up to the problem the nightmares disappeared.

    I suppose what I am trying to say is that there are no ghosts. You need look no further than reality

    While I appreciate your opinion on this, I have to disagree with your thinking. I was never afraid while growing up. And I am not the only family member to experience paranormal activity in the house.

    I moved back into the house nearly a year ago now and nothing menacing happened until last week. So it is not really feasible that I was subconsciously worried about the family "ghosts" for lack of a better word.

    And I can assure you that I am not in denial about anything. My life is very good right now. I am happy and healthy.

    I can see the logic in what you say, but I have to respectfully disagree.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    calahans please read the forum charter with respect to the last line of your post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Is there anything happening on dates of signifigance? Anniversarys, Deaths Etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    Just a suggestion but I couldn't help thinking that making a post over in the "Sleeping & Dreaming" forum asking someone to try explaining the dream you've had, try not to push the paranormal side. The least it'll give is a few opinions into what your mind is thinking.

    That said, hope it all works out ok for you and your son.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    WindSock wrote: »
    Is there anything happening on dates of signifigance? Anniversarys, Deaths Etc?

    Well, just before Christmas we had some activity. My brother lives in the upstairs apartment and he had 5 small nutcrackers lined up on top on his TV facing the sofa in the den. One morning when he got up they were all facing looking into the living room, where my mum always sat, in a perfect row. Everyone thought I did it as a joke, but I had nothing to do with it. I figured it was just my mum letting us know she was here for Christmas. She passed on Christmas Day a year ago.

    Do you know something? I just realized that the menacing presence began on the five year anniversary of my dad's burial. I wonder if that had something to do with it?

    By the way, everything has been pretty calm and peaceful for a week now. I'm not afraid to sleep anymore. A few minor things have happened, but nothing menacing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭free2fly


    Gillo wrote: »
    Just a suggestion but I couldn't help thinking that making a post over in the "Sleeping & Dreaming" forum asking someone to try explaining the dream you've had, try not to push the paranormal side. The least it'll give is a few opinions into what your mind is thinking.

    That said, hope it all works out ok for you and your son.

    Thank you for the suggestion. I just might do that :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 589 ✭✭✭vincenzo1975


    just a thought and hope I am not reaching, but it seems that on the first two occasions a communication between you and your son was prompted. Did you ask your son what was happening with him at the moment of the second dream? maybe someone is trying to tell you that something is going on with your son. Is it possible that someone is trying to help you feel an inner anguish that he may be feeling?

    On the father and dog bit, this may be you unconciously calling for their help and protection. Do you ever remember having a meaningful talk with your father about this kind of thing or something that was deeply troubling you when the dog may have been present, maybe on a walk?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭speaktofrank


    Any more news on this? It would be nice to know what has happened since then.


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