question about drinking

timetogetfit

21 units of alcohol is the limit for a man in a week if he wants to stay healthy and obviously he cant save up all those units for one night a week as that would be a binge and also be unhealthy so my question is if some one wants to limit there drinking to one night a week and still be healthy how many units should he limit himself to that one day a week?

JayRoc

timetogetfit wrote: »

21 units of alcohol is the limit for a man in a week if he wants to stay healthy and obviously he cant save up all those units for one night a week as that would be a binge and also be unhealthy so my question is if some one wants to limit there drinking to one night a week and still be healthy how many units should he limit himself to that one day a week?

Jesus wept.....

How about a couple of jars if you feel like it, or maybe, god forbid, none at all if you don't? You don't need to feel guilty for either choice.

"21 units"...."A man" ...Who's the man? What's he weigh? Who made up this rule? You can't quantify everything.
Do a bit of training, watch what you eat, and maybe spend less time analysing and more time doing. Something. Anything.


Best of luck.

davyjose

Talk to Rubadub - the guy said he drinks a crazy amount per week and yet still seems to be in very good shape.
I think, timetogetfit, as you've probably been told before, that you need to just knuckle down, and if you find you can comfortably drink a few pints a week while staying healthy, then do it - if not, then you have to make sacrifices. Trial and error.

AlphaMale 3OO

timetogetfit wrote: »

21 units of alcohol is the limit for a man in a week if he wants to stay healthy and obviously he cant save up all those units for one night a week as that would be a binge and also be unhealthy so my question is if some one wants to limit there drinking to one night a week and still be healthy how many units should he limit himself to that one day a week?

I could have sworn you've gone here before? Do you remember what was said the last time? Nobody is going to tell you its "healthy" to drink. Drink if you want to and enjoy it. I would say for that one day it remains at the standard recommended limit (21/7=3). No more. But obviously hardly anyone sticks to that. But how are you defining healthy? Lifting big? Feeling good? Didn't your doctor tell you you were close to heart problems? If I were you I'd stop skirting around the issue and either get yourself into shape or don't. Ambiguous questions about what is healthy and whats not won't achieve anything and nobody is going to tell you what you want to hear. You know whats good and whats bad. You've posted long enough to know. So judge whats best for yourself and make an informed decision.

timetogetfit

Didn't your doctor tell you you were close to heart problems?

no

AlphaMale 3OO

oh sorry.:o

Hanley

forbesii wrote: »

oh sorry.:o

I think it was gastric bypass surgery?

Roper

Hanley wrote: »

I think it was gastric bypass surgery?

Ah, much better.

Timetogetfit, I think you're best off either getting up and doing something or not posting again. You're doing people's heads in trying to come up with excuses to live a basically unhealthy lifestyle. You know whats right but you're not doing it.

Get off your hole.

Pherekydes

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Next thread coming right up:

Will I notice any de-training if I take a year off and just binge eat and drink?

rubadub

JayRoc wrote: »

"21 units"...."A man" ...Who's the man? What's he weigh? Who made up this rule? You can't quantify everything.

Very true. These are all just guidelines to keep things simple. Some people think the drink driving limits are actually based on pints, and not blood alcohol levels. So you probably have some idiots saying "I am limited to 1 pint, off to the porter house for a pint of some 14% german stuff". A 20stone man can drink more than a skinny dwarf to have the same alcohol % in his blood.

You could also move or just follow the Australians recommended amounts, which are quite high

davyjose wrote: »

Talk to Rubadub - the guy said he drinks a crazy amount per week and yet still seems to be in very good shape.

In OK shape, in spite of my drinking. I am under no illusions that I would be in way better shape without the drinking. I am not going to give up drinking to get fitter, I like it too much. Since losing weight I have cut down drinking, the frequency and the amounts. The amount comes down naturally since the less you weigh the less it takes to get to a certain mg/kg level of alcohol in your body.
Here are some cut and pastes of comments I have made before, they are what worked for me thats all, certainly not an ideal health plan!

getting a certain blood alcohol level depends on many factors. a huge one is drinking quickly on an empty stomach. you process about 1 4.5% pint per hour. so if you drink 3 pints in an hour you should have twice the alcohol in your bloodtream as if you had drank only 2. I used to drink quick and then switch to pints of water.
a guy i know used to brag about drinking 16 pints of guinness and only being a bit drunk, when questioned i found he ate after every 2nd pint or so!

Why are you drinking beer? Is it just for taste or do you want to get to a certain level of drunkeness/tipsiness.

If you want to drink 1 pint for taste then you can get 3% or lower beer, or good non-alcoholic beer like NA erdinger.

If you want to get a certain level of alcohol in your bloodstream the most efficient low calorie way is to drink white unsugared spirits, quickly, on an empty stomach with a artificially sweetened mixer
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1646002.htm

If you want to get a certain level of alcohol in your bloodstream but insist on beer then usually high strength pilsners are the way to go. They will have more calories per ml, but they are stronger so to get Xml of alcohol in your bloodstream you drink far less, so overall your calorie intake is less.

Pilsners & "lite" beers are usually brewed to completion so all sugars are fermented out. So less calories are present, with distilled spirits you have just alcohol with no proteins or carbohydrates.

Calorific values of food are calculated in labs and have nothing to do with human digestion systems. They burn a substance and calculate how much energy was released, usually they heat a fixed mass of water and calculate its temperature increase. So petrol and alcohol have quite high calorific values and when ignited will release this energy. However studies have shown that humans do not get the use of all these calories from alcohol, i.e. they put one study group on say 500kcal additional calories from sugar drinks, the other from alcohol, the sugar group got fatter. Anecdotally I know this is the case, I drink a lot and used to drink almost everyday, and know others who did. One guy was a constant 65kg 6'1'' yet was consuming about 1900kcal everyday ontop of normal amounts of food and did not put on weight.

http://www.scientificsocieties.org/JIB/papers/2005/G-2005-0920-295.pdf

timetogetfit

Ask a simple question and get slated by one buddy after another. Its a simple question folks my situation shouldnt come into it and your well within your rights not to respond if my post upsets or frustrates you

Leon11

3 pints.

timetogetfit

3 pints

You others should take a leaf out of this guys book.No rants.Just a simple answer for a simple question

AlphaMale 3OO

i said three pints. look again its in there somewhere.

rubadub

forbesii wrote: »

i said three pints. look again its in there somewhere.

Yes, and forbesii also asked what is your definition of healthy?

Since tuesday this week I have drank over 40pints, today I found out if I was tested by the US marines for pushups and chinups I would score 100% on both. After 5 consecutive days of fairly heavy drinking I actually feel absolutely fine and could probably trounce the average lad off the street at any fitness test. I dunno how I would fare in a medical test though, my resting heart rate is 62 right now.

That was an unusually heavy week, parties and stuff on, but I usually have ~20pints a week.

Pherekydes

timetogetfit wrote: »

You others should take a leaf out of this guys book.No rants.Just a simple answer for a simple question

Yes, but is it correct?

3 pints is nearly 9 units.

Leon11

Drink as much as you want I say but if I've anything to do the following morning I'll drink no more than 3 otherwise I find it hard to get out of bed and be alert for the gym or get to college on time etc.

I now also drink less of the pint each time, ie maybe only 4/5ths or so, find that it's helped reduce the head on me when I've been out on a mad one:D

5 pints become 4, 10 become 8 etc. Ye I'm pissing money away but the coldness of the pint goes after 20-25mins or so and I don't like sipping on warm beer.

rubadub

Slow coach wrote: »

Yes, but is it correct?

3 pints is nearly 9 units.

Yeah, most irish sites I see say a unit is a half pint. So that is 1.5 pints maximum..

Of course it depends on strength too, this site says some pints might be 4 units.

http://www.irishheart.ie/iopen24/defaultarticle.php?cArticlePath=47

Pherekydes

rubadub wrote: »

Yeah, most irish sites I see say a unit is a half pint. So that is 1.5 pints maximum.

If you're drinking beer at 3.5%!

Formula

The number of units of alcohol in a drink can be determined by multiplying the volume of the drink (in millilitres) by its percentage ABV, and dividing by 1000 (or litres × % abv).

Thus a pint (568ml) of beer at 5% ABV contains

(568ml * 5) / 1000 = 2.84 units

It does depend, as you said, on the strength of the drink. Most people will jump to the conclusion that a pint is 2 units.

smashey

Jesus. Another mess.

timetogetfit banned for a week.

This thread locked as I consider it to be trolling.

Dragan

timetogetfit wrote: »

Ask a simple question and get slated by one buddy after another. Its a simple question folks my situation shouldnt come into it and your well within your rights not to respond if my post upsets or frustrates you

It's an incredibly stupid question.

You were warned.