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Lidl v. build

  • 01-03-2008 4:40pm
    #1
    toco123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭


    My mate was looking at the computer coming up in Lidl which I taught was in fact a ridiculously expensive price... After browsing hardwareversand.de and ebay I worked it out at around €600 instead of their €800!!!

    His main uses are gaming (mostly FM2008) and internet.

    So now Im doing him a favour and building it:

    AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ AM2"tray"
    Arctic Alpine64 Socket 754/939/AM2
    Compucase 6K11BS sch/silb. 350W
    Club3D HD2600Pro, 512MB, ATI Radeon 2600Pro, PCI-Express
    ASUS M2A-VM/HDMI, Sockel AM2, AMD 690G+SB600, mATX
    2048MB DDR2 Aeneon PC5400 CL 5, PC5400/667
    Samsung HD501LJ 500GB 7200,16 MB Cache
    Samsung SH-S203D bulk schwarz
    Toshiba SD-H802A schwarz bulk
    350w PSU
    power cable
    wireless kit
    Hauppauge Nova T 500
    15 in 1
    WLAN USB adapter
    Bluetooth USB Adapter
    OEM Home Premium


    Here is my version of Lidl's spec. Mine is slightly superior.

    I was thinking of converting it to an Intel..
    but is a E2180 (€65 w/ HSF) or a E4500( €97 w/ HSF) better than a 5200+ (€81 w/ Alpine) in comparison which are similar in price?

    Also I wanted to convert him to Blu-ray but the Toshiba HD-DVD player is only €70 while the Pioneer Blu-Ray Player is €120. Is it worth the €50?

    Since it is only a light hearted gaming machine, which would he prefer?
    2600PRO 512MB @ €57 or an 8500GT 512MB @ €56 or a 3650 512MB @ €59

    What motherboards support Intel and HDMI around €55?



    Whats the minimum/reccomended wattage needed to power this rig?


Comments

  • #2
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,757 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    toco123 wrote: »
    Whats the minimum/reccomended wattage needed to power this rig?

    The CPU is 89 watts, the video card is 50 watts. You'd get away with 350W I suspect, but personally I'd go for a bit more head room.


  • #3
    toco123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭toco123


    I've had to change that case to a "Jet Delta mit 400W-Netzteil" for the extra 5.25" drives anyway...


  • #4
    Sqaull20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    I would say below would do the job, you shouldnt skimp on the psu, its the most important part of the pc, I learnt that the hard way with dabs value :D

    No point spending big on cpu when you can overclock a 2160 to 2.5ghz plus easy....

    http://i25.tinypic.com/5mz66h.jpg

    Maybe get this card if he's only playing fm

    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=20300&agid=716

    If not

    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=18453&agid=716


  • #5
    Sqaull20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Also have a look at dell, on tuesday I got below for €510 delivered for a friend
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 Processor (2.20GHz,800MHz,2MB cache) edit 
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English edit 
SUPPORT SERVICES  1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected edit 
MONITOR Dell™ 20" Value Wide Flat Panel (E207WFP) - UK/Irish edit 
MEMORY 3024MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [3x1024] edit 
HARD DRIVE 500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache edit 
GRAPHICS CARD Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 edit 
OPTICAL DRIVE 16x DVD +/- RW Drive edit 
KEYBOARD Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY) edit 
MOUSE Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse 
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Internal Wireless PCI Card

    Plus a 9600gt on ebay for €150 with free game, tomb raider anniversary...


    Cant be beaten imo, good cpu, very nice monitor, great gaming performance...


  • #6
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    Also have a look at dell, on tuesday I got below for €510 delivered for a friend
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 Processor (2.20GHz,800MHz,2MB cache) edit 
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English edit 
SUPPORT SERVICES  1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected edit 
MONITOR Dell™ 20" Value Wide Flat Panel (E207WFP) - UK/Irish edit 
MEMORY 3024MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [3x1024] edit 
HARD DRIVE 500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache edit 
GRAPHICS CARD Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 edit 
OPTICAL DRIVE 16x DVD +/- RW Drive edit 
KEYBOARD Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY) edit 
MOUSE Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse 
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Internal Wireless PCI Card

    Plus a 9600gt on ebay for €150 with free game, tomb raider anniversary...


    Cant be beaten imo, good cpu, very nice monitor, great gaming performance...

    and regardless of what people say you get a fairly decent 1 year warranty.


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  • #7
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Well, I needed a machine last week & couldn't go the buy & build route(Normally would) so I hit Dell on Sun night for this Vostro 400 & was up & running Wed afternoon.

    Very pleased with the machine & service. The items I changed from the base Spec are in bold. Delivered for €450 (Don't believe I'd have built it for that)

    Item Description
    Base Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6550 processor (2.33GHz, 1333MHz, 4MB che)

    Memory 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]

    Keyboard Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)

    Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100

    Hard Drive 1.0TB (7200RPM) SATA Dual Hard Drives (2X500GB)

    Mouse Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse

    Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Professional - English Including Media.

    Optical Devices 16x DVD+/-RW & 16x DVD Drives

    Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio

    Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 8.5 - English

    Standard Warranty 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included

    McAfee® Security Centre™ 9.0 - 15 Month Protection - English

    Dell System Media Kit Vostro 400 Resource DVD (Diagnostics & Drivers)


    -

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #8
    toco123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭toco123


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    Also have a look at dell, on tuesday I got below for €510 delivered for a friend
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 Processor (2.20GHz,800MHz,2MB cache) edit 
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English edit 
SUPPORT SERVICES  1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected edit 
MONITOR Dell™ 20" Value Wide Flat Panel (E207WFP) - UK/Irish edit 
MEMORY 3024MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [3x1024] edit 
HARD DRIVE 500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache edit 
GRAPHICS CARD Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 edit 
OPTICAL DRIVE 16x DVD +/- RW Drive edit 
KEYBOARD Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY) edit 
MOUSE Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse 
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Internal Wireless PCI Card

    Plus a 9600gt on ebay for €150 with free game, tomb raider anniversary...


    Cant be beaten imo, good cpu, very nice monitor, great gaming performance...



    When I customise the 530... It comes to 730 incl. vat???


  • #9
    Sqaull20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Offer has changed a little since I got it last week (change every thursday)

    Vostro 200

    E Value

    305-D032012

    http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=ie&cs=iebsdt1&kc=D4X20003&l=en&m_30=138820&oc=D032012&rbc=D032012&s=bsd
    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 Processor (2.20GHz,800MHz,2MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected
Dell™ 22" Black Wide Flat Panel (E228WFP) - UK/Irish
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache
Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse

    €543.29 inc delivery

    Without monitor

    €349.12

    Or cheaper

    E Value

    305-D032002
    
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core E2160 Processor (1.8GHz,800MHz,1MB cache)
Genuine Windows® XP Professional - English
1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected
Monitor Not included
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
80GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst™ cache
Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse

    €240 including delivery


  • #10
    toco123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭toco123


    Okay im making a hybrid Dell:


    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHzx4 = 9.6GHz
    NZXT Alpha
    256MB ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT graphics card
    3GB Memory (Dell 1GB + Aeneon 2GB)
    500GB 7200rpm with 16MB Buffer
    16x DVD +/- RW Drive
    USB Mouse/ Keyboard
    19-in-1 Media Drive
    Wireless LAN adapter
    Bluetooth Adapter
    Windows Vista Business




    Whats he missin with Vista business?
    I'm also providing the option of:
    HD-DVD Drive [+€90]
    Nova T 500 TV Card [+€80]
    9600GT + 450watt PSU [+€160]


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