GTA IV Vs. Spore

zuchum

I last night made a .50cent bet with my friend that Spore would sell more copies than GTA IV...


before I go on about how right I am, I just wanna see some reactions to that statement...

Benzino

Spore is gonna be a really cool game, but I just dont think that it'll sell as many GTA IV, mainly due to the type of game it is. I mean 8 year olds will wana play GTA IV (and you know must of them will get their hands on it too), can't really say the same about spore imo.

Both are gonna be great games though

evad_lhorg

over what time frame?

ShiverinEskimo

GTA will wipe the floor with Spore.

Both will be great but GTA is much more mainstream and the fact it has a IV after it shows how much previous market awareness it has.

I'd say 3:1 selling ratio.

Smellyirishman

My money would be on GTA.

Ciaran500

I'm not so sure, if Spore took off like The Sims GTA would have no chance, its also on more platforms than GTA.

super_furry

I can't understand all the fuss about Spore myself. Mind you, I thought The Sims was rubbish.

humanji

Considering the cult following GTA has, Spore has little chance of beating it. Also, Spore isn't being released on 360 or PS3 iirc, so that will majorly hurt it's sales. Add to this that a lot of people will get Spore for PC and Mac from "non retail sources" and I think you made a poor choice

Smellyirishman

Ciaran500 wrote: »

I'm not so sure, if Spore took off like The Sims GTA would have no chance, its also on more platforms than GTA.

Perhaps, it's still a very ambitious and essentially unknown title when compared to GTAs solid base. Of course it could go either way but right now I think GTA has almost everything in it's favour.

Ham-man wrote:

Also, Spore isn't being released on 360 or PS3 iirc

That's what I thought aswel, articles confirming it for the 360 and Ps3 are dated back in '05 or '06. I thought platforms confirmed were PC, Mac, DS, Mobiles and Wii, but the DS, Mobile and potentially Wii versions are not the "main" product so it would be unfair to count them. However saying that, I'd imagine that over time you'll see it accross all platforms, they've certainly suggested that was their goal.

Creamy Goodness

spore won't take off like the sims, the sims appeals to the most casualist of gamers, even the idea of spore won't swing with casual gamers.

johnny_ultimate

I don't think Spore will ever achieve the popularity of the Sims. While millions of casual gamers enjoy their virtual doll houses, the whole evolution conceit doesn't appear to have as much mainstream appeal as dressing up avatars in funny costumes and then trying to get them to light their house on fire.

Also, from the gameplay videos released thus far, I really don't think Spore looks all that special. Gameplay looks way too simplified.

ShiverinEskimo

Of all the people I know who play the Sims nearly 90% are girls who play the sims in between watching the E! channel and reading OK magazine. 100% of these would not have a clue of the existence of either GTA or Spore.

zuchum

K,to clarify anyway,it's over a long time period,maybe 1 and a half/2 years.

My reasons for opting for spore are numrous and many:

It is coming out on the best selling systems in the world (Wii,DS), and obviously PC/Mac so it will have a huge potential base.

I think it will take off hugely in Japan and contribute millions of sales especially if the DS version starts to get good reviews, most DS games are flying out of shops over there.

With GTA 4, hardly any xbox 360's in Japan,relatively small amount of PS3s,also the Japanese tend to go for those sort of games less. In US and Europe, I think it will do amazingly,obviously, but I think the time period of around 2 years gives me the edge,as Spore will be a grower.

Jackabo

GTA all the way i think

muletide

Whats spore ??

Ruu_Old

Never heard of it either until I googled to find out.

ShiverinEskimo

An example of how San Andreas did in Japan.

http://pcgames.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/11104/GTA_San_Andreas_Tops_Japan_Sales_Charts.html

Fair enough on the PS2 - but japs lapped it up. And will continue to do so.

Explosive_Cornflake

zuchum wrote: »

I last night made a .50cent bet with my friend that Spore would sell more copies than GTA IV...
.

1/2 a cent bet!

On Topic: My finger has been far from the pulse lately. I've not heard of spore, but GTA4, I know between that and GT5 I'll be buying a HD console.

ShaneU

Spore's only out on the pc and wii, hence...

Most pc players will illegally download it...

And most wii players won't even have heard of it...

So it hasn't got a prayer of outselling gta4.

tba

what happens if they both sell the same amount eh?

did you consider that?

Also, I reckon..... Spore will win, cause I want it to.

ShiverinEskimo

tba wrote: »

what happens if they both sell the same amount eh?

did you consider that?

Also, I reckon..... Spore will win, cause I want it to.

Hence the saying bet with your head, not with your heart.

KoKane

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

An example of how San Andreas did in Japan.

http://pcgames.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/11104/GTA_San_Andreas_Tops_Japan_Sales_Charts.html

Fair enough on the PS2 - but japs lapped it up. And will continue to do so.

IS that real?

Talk about hype and anticipation!



But GTA's marketing has been spot on before and can only get better. The "please ban this game" articles in newspapers etc really helped it too.
No doubt GTA 4 will sell by the Ocean Freight load.

I for one will be cleaning the dust of my 360 to play this.


Also the fact that everyone has XBox Live and can see what other people are playing might help spore a bit (if its on console)

ShiverinEskimo

KoKane wrote: »

IS that real?

Talk about hype and anticipation!

You realise that was the chart for this time last year?

ShaneU

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

You realise that was the chart for this time last year?

It still took ages to come out over there.

humanji

tba wrote: »

what happens if they both sell the same amount eh?

did you consider that?

Also, I reckon..... Spore will win, cause I want it to.

You willing to buy several million copies of it though?

tba

Yes

Also the online/offline element of spore might reduce illegal downloads.

Gizzle

Nah, GTAIV is practically immersed in the mainstream, and so will trounce Spore in sales. That's why for years people were buying FIFA over PES, mass appeal over quality.

Catsmokinpot

Gizzle wrote: »

Nah, GTAIV is practically immersed in the mainstream, and so will trounce Spore in sales. That's why for years people were buying FIFA over PES, mass appeal over quality.

I wouldn't be so sure of that, people are always crying out for new and innovative material, and I think spore has that in spades.

Wertz

GTA hands down even though I'd like to see Spore doing well, it won't do anywhere near R*'s banker title.

ShiverinEskimo

Catsmokinpot wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure of that, people are always crying out for new and innovative material, and I think spore has that in spades.

I dont agree.

What have all these top selling games of recent times got in common:
Halo 3
COD 4
Sim 2
Half-Life2:Ep2
Fifa 08
PES 08
Zelda TP

All sequels, all rehashed versions of the originals, all massive sellers.

Spore should do well. But comparing it to sonmething as famous and mainstream as GTA? Owned.

Smellyirishman

Catsmokinpot wrote: »

gamers are always crying out for new and innovative material, and I think spore has that in spades.

Fixed.

Like Shiverin' said, just look at top selling games such as Madden, new and innovative? Hardly, but one of the biggest selling games becuase it has mass appeal/recognition.

KoKane

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

You realise that was the chart for this time last year?

hahaha
I saw the "Feb 3 2007" and all... doh.

roadruner

GTAIV will win!

What date is it due out here?

Kristok

hmm one of the biggest selling games of all time or a new game only people who read up about games even know about. Im not saying spore cant be big but it defo cant be gta big.

roadruner

Kristok wrote: »

hmm one of the biggest selling games of all time or a new game only people who read up about games even know about. Im not saying spore cant be big but it defo cant be gta big.

True

Ciaran500

Kristok wrote: »

hmm one of the biggest selling games of all time or a new game only people who read up about games even know about. Im not saying spore cant be big but it defo cant be gta big.

But do you really think the casual gamer had been following the DS, Wii, Sims, GTA, Nintendogs (which has sold more than GTA btw) etc? These things explode in sales based on advertising and word of mouth.

ShiverinEskimo

Can explode in sales or can become a cult classic that few people played.

Think of the likes of electroplankton on the DS. Genius-like innovation and accessibility and I doubt more than a handful of people know about it.

Gizzle

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

Can explode in sales or can become a cult classic that few people played.

Think of the likes of electroplankton on the DS. Genius-like innovation and accessibility and I doubt more than a handful of people know about it.

Ah, but electroplankton was more of a relaxation tool than a game!

Still, I agree with the preceding statement.

roadruner

Guys does anyone know of someone who finished GTASA 100% ??

Explosive_Cornflake

A guide on GameFAQ's will tell you how to do it. I didn't get there myself, might be something to do today ...

zuchum

i still maintain hope that spore will pull a 'sims' on this...and get girls/adults involved

S.I.R

theres compatition to beat GTA IV ?? spore looks rubbish.... hope gta is even half as good as previous games