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Ze Premiership Weekender Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Shocking from Boro.
    Still Liverpool doing what they always do, can't get it together against small teams, largely because they don't have a system that gets anywhere near the best out of their players.

    Magical from Torres though, some player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Fulham v West Ham is a shocker in case anyone cares. Two teams playing the exact same tactics and cancelling each other out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    just like it was never a goal for Walcott after Abedayour fouled the keeper

    Ah come on. 50-50 ball which the keeper lost and Walcott finished off.
    Is there a rule in which u cant go for a ball without touching the keeper?

    You cant take the keeper out of it with another player which happened in the first half but the first goal was fine.

    Van Persie will be back sooner then later in think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    No, but when you whack the keeper in the face with your arm, then it gets into foul land.

    I do think keepers are way overprotected, but not in that case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Great spot from the ref for the handball, still the way Liverpool and Boro are defending anything could happen in this match


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Nunu wrote: »
    Bull ****!!

    That was awful professionalism...if he did that under Ferguson he'd be stripped of the captaincy.


    Sure he would.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    PHB wrote: »
    No, but when you whack the keeper in the face with your arm, then it gets into foul land.

    I do think keepers are way overprotected, but not in that case.

    Adeboyer was holding his ground. The keeper was the one moving out. If an arm did hit him then it wasnt adeboyer's fault. Taylor should have jumped higher. In fact Taylor didnt really look for it cause he knew he ****ed up. He got a knock alright but was it a foul? NO.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    That was awful professionalism...if he did that under Ferguson he'd be stripped of the captaincy.

    Like cantona and keane??:rolleyes:

    Isnt it great how we have different rules for different people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Actually Taylor did look for it, after he realised what happened, because he was kinda confused after getting hit in the pace.

    I really don't see anything wrong with what Gallas did. He was just furious, and rightly so, at letting the lead slip. I don't think he could accept it for a while, which is why he's such a good player and imo a fantastic captain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    well there's two ways of not accepting things: petulantly or professionally


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    well there's two ways of not accepting things: petulantly or professionally


    Shows passion, that said he has a responsibility to the rest of the team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    What the fupp was Tuncay doing he had a near certain goal chance and arms the ball in. Pool damned lucky to be ahead frankly. Torres is the only player worth his price tag wearing red.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Shows passion, that said he has a responsibility to the rest of the team.

    Passion? And how would such passion be conducive to a team in the last minute with a decision that they cannot reverse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    mike65 wrote: »
    What the fupp was Tuncay doing he had a near certain goal chance and arms the ball in. Pool damned lucky to be ahead frankly. Torres is the only player worth his price tag wearing red.

    Mike.

    I dont know. Gerrards been very poor, but we didnt pay anything for him. I'd say he's worth every penny on todays performance. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    You gotta factor in wages :P

    I think Tuncay was actually trying to shoulder it in, and he came very close to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    PHB wrote: »
    You gotta factor in wages :P

    I think Tuncay was actually trying to shoulder it in, and he came very close to it.

    he just panicked. he clearly has no faith in his own ability to head the ball, even the first goal he barely get the needed touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    PHB wrote: »
    I think Tuncay was actually trying to shoulder it in, and he came very close to it.

    Still stupid. He should have headed it. Even shouldering it theres a risk of the linesman or ref thinking you handled it. I reckon he bottled it thinking Reina was coming at him and didnt want to risk messing his hair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Passion? And how would such passion be conducive to a team in the last minute with a decision that they cannot reverse?

    Shows he cares, and 99.9% of refs decisions are never changed yet players still react, but as captain he has a responsiblity to the rest of the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    read the full post!, shows he gives a ****, and 99.9% of refs decisions are never changed yet players still react, but as captain he has a responsiblity to the rest of the team.

    Relax, I did read your full post, I was merely responding to one aspect of that post. I don't mind reaction, it was just the manner, I mean ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Relax, I did read your full post, I was merely responding to one aspect of that post. I don't mind reaction, it was just the manner, I mean ffs

    sorry :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Ye think the FA will act on taylor after what Wenger said?
    Doubt it but he has a point in saying that these challenges have been going on for ages now and nothing was done about it.

    Might make players think twice in going in so rash, which is only a good thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    jank wrote: »
    Ye think the FA will act on taylor after what Wenger said?
    Doubt it but he has a point in saying that these challenges have been going on for ages now and nothing was done about it.

    Might make players think twice in going in so rash, which is only a good thing.

    Or we could just go the way the FA seem to want and ban tackling altogether. Theres not really a way to ban clumsy tackling because it's not deliberate. Sure look at when a keeper is going up for a catch. If an opposition player looks at him it's a free out. Crouch has it worse because he automatically gives away a free even when he is fouled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Indeed, I'm perfectly happy with Roy Keane getting banned for life for his tackle on Haaland, but the question is about intent imo, and then it's gets into very dodgy areas of players being suspended for life due to intent. I don't really think that Taylor meant to do anything like that to Eduardo, it was just a reckless tackle, that some other day would have just resulted in an impact injury.
    Seriously malicous tackles however, like Keane's, need to be stamped out of the game for good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Or we could just go the way the FA seem to want and ban tackling altogether

    Where did i say this?
    So you think studs up tackles is just another tackle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,803 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    posted in Utd thread too:

    Official Confirmed Team

    GK: VDS

    RB: Brown
    CB: Ferdinand
    CB: Vidic
    LB: Evra

    RM: Ronaldo
    CM: Carrick
    CM: Fletcher
    LM: Nani

    CF: Tevez
    CF: Rooney

    Subs: PIG, O'Shea, Scholes, Anderson, Saha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    jank wrote: »
    Where did i say this?
    So you think studs up tackles is just another tackle?

    Where did I say you said that?, You left out the part that says "the way the FA seem to want". I dont agree that lifting you studs should be an automatic free or card. You can be blocking the ball with the bottom of your boot. Is there a close up video of the tackle? You boot has to land somewhere and unfortunately, sometimes thats onto another player, not nessecarily interntionally. You cant retract your studs when it look like they are going to make contact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Also considering the efforts of Arsenal players to deliberately injure Nani last week, Wenger really has some nerve.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭Noelie


    PHB wrote: »
    just like it was never a goal for Walcott after Abedayour fouled the keeper.

    come off it, the keeper jumped into Ade, Ade jumped straight up and the keeper jumped into him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,803 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    He always sees the incidents when its arsenal who are wronged, never seems to see it when its his own players who are guilty....

    the tackle was awful from Taylor, hate to see that injury to any footballer.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    You cant retract your studs when it look like they are going to make contact.

    Exactly my point. Players should think twice about making those types of tackles. Remember this happened in the 2nd minute of the game. Taylor obviously was up for it and decided to show Aresnal who was boss. The result of this we all know.

    You think this was just a clumsy tackle?
    http://www.4thegame.com/media/gallery/3379.jpg

    We also know that there is a conception out there that to beat Arsenal you have to kick them and put it up them. This conception fuels the notion to go in hard. Again I have no problem with hard tackling once its fair clean and the risks to players are minimal.

    Tackling is part of the game but if your studs are up then you risk doing SERIOUS damage to others. If you do a studs up tackle, then i dont think a 1 or 3 match ban is applicable.

    Not saying for one minute that Taylor ment to do this and should serve a life ban, but it should run more then 3 days imo.


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