Vrt

elsimate

Just wondering does anyone know

1 - how long you can have a car in Ireland w/o paying the VRT?
2 - Can you insure a car with an English reg in Ireland?
3 - What the damage is if you are "caught" driving an unregistered "yet" car in Ireland?

Basically I am buying a mates car from the UK - but want to hold off until July to get it registered so as to pay less tax.

All help appreciated

:rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito

elsimate wrote: »

Just wondering does anyone know

1 - how long you can have a car in Ireland w/o paying the VRT?
2 - Can you insure a car with an English reg in Ireland?
3 - What the damage is if you are "caught" driving an unregistered "yet" car in Ireland?

Basically I am buying a mates car from the UK - but want to hold off until July to get it registered so as to pay less tax.

All help appreciated

:rolleyes:

I assume your an Irish resident?

1 - 1 working day (well 2 really, has to be at the VRO by the end of the following working day)

2- yes, for how long though I dont know. Some companies might not do it permenantly.

3- They can/will impound it (depends on who stops you, customs will impound it).

Why he sarcasm at the end?

veloc123

elsimate wrote: »

Just wondering does anyone know

1 - how long you can have a car in Ireland w/o paying the VRT?
2 - Can you insure a car with an English reg in Ireland?
3 - What the damage is if you are "caught" driving an unregistered "yet" car in Ireland?

Basically I am buying a mates car from the UK - but want to hold off until July to get it registered so as to pay less tax.

All help appreciated

:rolleyes:

2. Quinn Direct will insure a British reg in Ireland indefinitely. They did for me!! If the car has British tax on it still you will be fine on Irish Roads.

Anan1

veloc123 wrote: »

If the car has British tax on it still you will be fine on Irish Roads.

If only...;)

craichoe

veloc123 wrote: »

2. Quinn Direct will insure a British reg in Ireland indefinitely. They did for me!! If the car has British tax on it still you will be fine on Irish Roads.

Only if you have it registered to a UK address.

Irish resident has to switch it over in 1 day

Biro

The penalty for getting caught is they can impound the car, and if they do, it'll cost you 10% of the OMSP to get it out, plus the VRT on top.

veloc123

craichoe wrote: »

Only if you have it registered to a UK address.

Irish resident has to switch it over in 1 day

That's correct!! But what i am saying is it will buy you a bit of time until you re-register!! Anything longer than 12 months you are considered permanently resident. And also make sure you send the purple slip to the DVLA stating the export date otherwise you will be liable for tax renewal in the UK.

craichoe

veloc123 wrote: »

That's correct!! But what i am saying is it will buy you a bit of time until you re-register!! Anything longer than 12 months you are considered permanently resident. And also make sure you send the purple slip to the DVLA stating the export date otherwise you will be liable for tax renewal in the UK.

Nope, its 156 days... moved to Holland with an Irish car

veloc123

craichoe wrote: »

Nope, its 156 days... moved to Holland with an Irish car

12 months unofficially in Ireland what has Holland got to do with it!!

Guy:Incognito

veloc123 wrote: »

12 months unofficially in Ireland what has Holland got to do with it!!

What has unofficially got to do with anythign when there are official laws.

craichoe

veloc123 wrote: »

12 months unofficially in Ireland what has Holland got to do with it!!

I have to be in Ireland for 156 days to qualify as a resident and vice versa with here, in other words, once i register here with the authorities i have 6 months to register my car here, same if I go back to Ireland.

No unofficially or Officially about it, checked with the Motor Tax office and Belastingdienst here.

CPG

craichoe wrote: »

Only if you have it registered to a UK address.

Irish resident has to switch it over in 1 day

Incorrect, I had an English reg car registered much longer than that.
They did not contact me after one day.

Guy:Incognito

CPG wrote: »

Incorrect, I had an English reg car registered much longer than that.
They did not contact me after one day.

They dont ring people at random. They dont know you have the car in he country till you tell them/they catch you.

craichoe

CPG wrote: »

Incorrect, I had an English reg car registered much longer than that.
They did not contact me after one day.

Of course they didnt contact you, the onus is on you to contact them, if you get stopped at a customs checkpoint they'll seize your vehicle

flintash

stopped twice in two weeks. Had 3 checkpoint in last 3 years. But now driving english car, and here we go. Both officers threatened, one of them took my details, as name and adress.Got cleared the car. Can't afford to loose the car even for a day. i had Hibernian insurance, probably didnt take the car because of this.

jammie

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whizzbangmcgui

90% of this info is available on the revenue website, lazy b******s......

But to the originator of the thread:-



Q1. How long can you have a car in Ireland without paying the VRT?
(answer available on revenue website)

A. Legally, assuming you are an Irish resident importing a foreign car, 24 hours.

In reality, this is ridiculous. You are supposed to present the car and the logbook/portion of logbook at the nearest VRO (vehicle registration office) within 24 hours of driving the car onto ROI shores. Can't do it at the weekend, can you? Can't do it if your insurance company says your not insured for a couple of days? Well, you could drive uninsured to the VRO office. Not advisable, given the amount of L(unatic) driivers on Irish roads today.

Anyway, that's how long. Mind you, I know people that have driven around for 2 years before importing/paying the VRT. Generally, if your insurance company will keep insuring you, go for it. But, if the customs nab you, you will end up paying extra for it.

Q2. Can you insure a car with an English reg in Ireland?
(answer available from your insurance company)

A. Of course you can insure an English reg car in Ireland. Do you think all those yellow number plated high spec cars are being driven around uninsured. Not a chance. See answer to Q1.


Q3. What the damage is if you are "caught" driving an unregistered "yet" car in Ireland?

A. Depends on what you mean by caught. Also, it depends how long you have left it to register. Most Gardai are sound enough, especially if you have the documents with you that show it's recently imported (by about 4/5 months I'd say). The customs gestapo won't take such a kind view. They would probably impound it on the spot, unless it was very, very recently imported. I think they must work on commission, b*****ds.

My advice:- Drive it for as long as your insurance company will insure you for!!!

I recently had an issue with a car I imported where the log book was lost and I technically couldn't import it until the issue was resolved. There was no problem with any officials who stopped me, or with the insurance company. In saying that, I did have to plead my case to the insurance company to keep me insured for the duration, which was only 2 months.

Also, craichoe, I agree with veloc123. What has importing a car into Holland FROM Ireland got to do with it. Dutch laws don't apply here. Didn't see any "coffee" shops opening up recently here, did you? And as far as I'm aware, the Dutch don't have the (illegal) VRT tax. Pity, all the same (about the coffee shops, not the VRT)

Hope this helps someone.

W.

Henry Ford III

whizzbangmcgui wrote: »

.....Can't do it (VRO presentation) if your insurance company says your not insured for a couple of days? Well, you could drive uninsured to the VRO office. Not advisable, given the amount of L(unatic) driivers on Irish roads today.....

What insurance cover would one have had whilst physically importing the car day 1?

Esel

whizzbangmcgui wrote: »

Well, you could drive uninsured to the VRO office. Not advisable, given the amount of L(unatic) driivers on Irish roads today.

Not advisable, ever! :mad:

Guy:Incognito

It's register by the end of the next working day is it not? ie weekends dont count.

craichoe

Also, craichoe, I agree with veloc123. What has importing a car into Holland FROM Ireland got to do with it. Dutch laws don't apply here. Didn't see any "coffee" shops opening up recently here, did you? And as far as I'm aware, the Dutch don't have the (illegal) VRT tax. Pity, all the same (about the coffee shops, not the VRT)

it has SFA in that respect, but when i go back i'll have to re-register it in Ireland when i go back TO Ireland.

The dutch DO have VRT (unless you can prove you've owned the car for 6 months)

Why do people think of Coffee shops when they think of Holland ? Their not even legal or illegal ... just decriminalised.

VRT here is an absolute RIP, registering a car from Germany here whacks on 30%.

Guy:Incognito

whizzbangmcgui wrote: »

Also, craichoe, I agree with veloc123. What has importing a car into Holland FROM Ireland got to do with it. Dutch laws don't apply here. Didn't see any "coffee" shops opening up recently here, did you? And as far as I'm aware, the Dutch don't have the (illegal) VRT tax. Pity, all the same (about the coffee shops, not the VRT)

Hope this helps someone.

W.

You know that sticking the word illegal in he middle of a sentence, in brackets or not, doesnt make it true. As above, the Dutch do have VRT, and at a higher rate than Ireland, as do a few other EU countries.

whizzbangmcgui

Apologies,

Yeah, it's register by the end of the next working day.

Just goes to show you, you shouldn't rely on information from message boards written by drunk b*****ds on a Friday night, when it's all there on the revenue website, or on the end of a phone connection to the VRO office.

Also, the guy I bought my car off drove it down to me from Antrim, so I didn't have to have insurance on day 1 to get it to my door.

I don't think the legal status of coffee shops was in question at any time, but thanks for the info.

I'm still not so sure about the Dutch having the "illegal" (look, no brackets) VRT, and at higher rates than Ireland. Surely not? Car prices were always way cheaper there than here, at least while I lived there. I know LHD are cheaper, but not that much cheaper.

I don't know why people think of coffee shops when Holland is mentioned. Why do people think of fiddly diddly, pints of guinness drinkers falling around the pubs riverdancing, 40 shades a green, spuds and red hair when Ireland is mentioned? Because the country is full of them, perhaps? What do 90% of Irish people who visit Holland have as an item high up on their agenda?

Actually, I've seen more red haired Dutch people than Irish!

Must go wash my clogs, crank up the windmill, turn on the red light and watch some porn, go for a cycle, swim the canal, plant some tulips..............

Tot straks,

W.