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Delaney attacks Keane

  • 17-02-2008 08:30PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭


    Delaney lashes out at Keane
    Sunday, 17 February 2008 17:40
    Roy Keane has been handed a dose of his own medicine via a stinging rebuke from Football Association of Ireland Chief Executive John Delaney.


    Keane has often been critical of the FAI and their methods, and in particular recently slated the association for doing 'everything backwards'.


    Delaney feels that in attracting Giovanni Trapattoni as Republic of Ireland manager this week, Sunderland boss Keane can have no grounds to now point an accusing finger.


    And Delaney has decided to snap back at Keane in a rare bout of public anger.


    'The only criticism I'd have of Sunderland would be their manager giving his weekly report about Irish football, Cork hurling and all that he does,' lashed Delaney.

    'We don't comment on the players he's bought or where they are in the league.


    'So I think he should get on with managing Sunderland and stop commenting on a regular basis about the FAI.


    'He looks very good on deflecting from his own issues. I think what he should do is concentrate on what he has to do.


    'If anything we have been supportive of what they (Sunderland) are doing with the Irish connection in that regard. From my point of view he should get on with his job.'


    Delaney added: 'The inaccuracies that come out from him are what bothers me, like last week he said we cut corners.


    'But Liam Miller was injured (in the friendly defeat) against Brazil, and he should remember that only two or three countries insure their players, and we're one of them.


    'So we do our business properly in that regard. It's the constant looking to the past and not understanding what we're about today. That's one simple example of where he gets it wrong.'


    Good point tbh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Fair point, but I dont think John Delaney is in a position to be criticising anybody tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Fair point, but I dont think John Delaney is in a position to be criticising anybody tbh.
    Agree.Delaney is in no position to rant.


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Delaney makes a good point but at the same time he needs t address the fact that hes viewed as a running joke.

    Tbh why does everyone put "tbh" after everything they say on this board? Tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    **** that ****, finally somebody who is respect in the football media bitching about the FAI. This is just Delaney trying to do anything he can to avoid criticism, but luckily he can't shut Keane up :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    They just do tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Tbh why does everyone put "tbh" after everything they say on this board? Tbh

    I didn't tbh:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I really really really hope Sunderland go down this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Thata boy Jonnno, always liked him!

    So if Delaney stays in the job can we deduce from this that Keane won't get the manager's position? Delaney for life so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    PHB I agree with you that someone high profile giving out about the FAI is a good thing, but Keane's comments are somewhat diluted by the fact that he seems to comment on everything these days. If he just commented on things worth commenting on, he'd be much better off imo. tbh.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    PHB I agree with you that someone high profile giving out about the FAI is a good thing, but Keane's comments are somewhat diluted by the fact that he seems to comment on everything these days. If he just commented on things worth commenting on, he'd be much better off imo. tbh.

    it is true that he will coment on almost everything, then again hes only answering whats asked of him. I think he is kind of becoming the New Mourinho in this aspect because be it him talking about Wags or the FAI he is deflecting attension away from his Sunderland players and leaving them to concentrate on their football.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Everyone knows that the FAI aren't the most professional bunch but coming from Keane, it just seems bitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    PHB I agree with you that someone high profile giving out about the FAI is a good thing, but Keane's comments are somewhat diluted by the fact that he seems to comment on everything these days. If he just commented on things worth commenting on, he'd be much better off imo. tbh.

    he comments on everything coz ythe media keeps askin for his opinions, and whe nyou ask the man what he thinks he's gonna tell you, he's not one of those "no comment" arse bandits, which is what i like about him!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    gosplan wrote: »
    Everyone knows that the FAI aren't the most professional bunch but coming from Keane, it just seems bitter.

    Eamo has a name for Keano. Rhymes with "bitter" iirc.. tbh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    If the Sunderland 'team' was English I wonder would Keane get the light of day to discuss Cork GAA and Ireland etc - I think not;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Thata boy Jonnno, always liked him!

    So if Delaney stays in the job can we deduce from this that Keane won't get the manager's position? Delaney for life so.
    :eek:

    I do hope you are joking.
    darkman2 wrote: »
    If the Sunderland 'team' was English
    The Sunderland team is English. It's an English team with Irish players. Like other teams in England have some Irish players.

    To be honest, any criticism of the FAI is ok in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    DesF wrote: »
    :eek:

    I do hope you are joking.

    Of course I'm joking, although I do think he should be kept as far away from the job as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Of course I'm joking, although I do think he should be kept as far away from the job as possible.

    At the moment I agree.

    But, if he gets the time to maybe make SundIreland a mid-table Prem team, then goes and manages someone like Villa/Spurs/Blackburn and is relatively successful with them (UEFA Cup spot/pushing for CL Spot) and then maybe goes abroad/manages United and is successful there (titles, decent CL Run etc), say if he has a good 20 Year managerial career, would you still let personal grudges stand in the way of thinking he should get the job?

    Anyway, lot of ifs and buts there, I hope Sunderland fail, I hope they go down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    DesF wrote: »
    At the moment I agree.

    But, if he gets the time to maybe make SundIreland a mid-table Prem team, then goes and manages someone like Villa/Spurs/Blackburn and is relatively successful with them (UEFA Cup spot/pushing for CL Spot) and then maybe goes abroad/manages United and is successful there (titles, decent CL Run etc), say if he has a good 20 Year managerial career, would you still let personal grudges stand in the way of thinking he should get the job?

    Anyway, lot of ifs and buts there, I hope Sunderland fail, I hope they go down.

    That all depends really. If he keeps shooting his mouth off then it's not the sort of attention I'd like drawn to the job. This defence of 'Well he was asked a question" doesn't wash with me. How many manager's have declined to comment on issues that don't really concern them? Just because you are asked doesn't mean you have to answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    How many manager's have declined to comment on issues that don't really concern them? Just because you are asked doesn't mean you have to answer.
    How many times has Arsene Wenger been slated for saying he hasn't seen an incident, or just a plain "no comment".

    I do agree with you though, Keane would do well to keep his mouth shut on matters that don't concern him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    DesF wrote: »
    How many times has Arsene Wenger been slated for saying he hasn't seen an incident, or just a plain "no comment".

    Difference is though they are incidents concerning his own team.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Difference is though they are incidents concerning his own team.

    Exactly.

    Fundamentally John Delaney is right here. Why should he sit there and listen to a lecture from some manager of an English club struggling to stay up after spending a fortune? It was obvious that Keane had no inside track and was oblivious to the fact that Trappatoni was imminent.

    Not only was Keane wrong, he isn't exactly credible on this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Exactly.

    Fundamentally John Delaney is right here. Why should he sit there and listen to a lecture from some manager of an English club struggling to stay up after spending a fortune? It was obvious that Keane had no inside track and was oblivious to the fact that Trappatoni was imminent.

    Not only was Keane wrong, he isn't exactly credible on this one.
    so the only difference between Keane and all the people saying pretty much the exact same as him on here, is that keanes views get read/heard by more people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Tauren wrote: »
    so the only difference between Keane and all the people saying pretty much the exact same as him on here, is that keanes views get read/heard by more people.
    Exactly. The irony of people on an internet giving out about someone else giving their opinion on something else is delicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Tauren wrote: »
    so the only difference between Keane and all the people saying pretty much the exact same as him on here, is that keanes views get read/heard by more people.

    Here's the first United fan in :D

    Tbh honest yes that is the only difference, but it's a pretty big one. No one gives a sh1t about what you or I say but people listen to him, whether he's right or wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    *IF* roy keane becomes a success as a manager then yes id listen to him a bit more but at the min he's not so he should concentrate on Sunderland and their fight for survival.

    I dont often agree with Delaney but i think he's right here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Agree with xavi's earlier post, the "he was asked" excuse doesn't fly.

    Yeah he's asked, but he doesn't have to give such frank responses to issues that have nothing to do with him, that he hasn't particularly looked into, and that he doesn't particularly care about. I like the outspoken thing at times, but only if its something he actually cares about. All thats happening now is that anything decent he says, that he really genuinely gives a fck about, will just be seen as yet another Keane rant.

    Right now he's just news fodder. If someone needs a story, ask Keane a controversial question and boom, news.

    And on the thing of him being Mourinho-esque, would he even be in the spotlight if it wasn't for these things? He's not deflecting attention away from anything. He's far more in the news then say Hodgeson, Bruce or Jewell. All this does is give people an excuse to actually look at his position and say "yeah keep your own house in order there Roy".

    IMO at the moment he, and Sunderland, would be better off if he just kept his head down and worked on getting the results to keep them up.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Qs


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Agree with xavi's earlier post, the "he was asked" excuse doesn't fly.

    Yeah he's asked, but he doesn't have to give such frank responses to issues that have nothing to do with him, that he hasn't particularly looked into, and that he doesn't particularly care about. I like the outspoken thing at times, but only if its something he actually cares about. All thats happening now is that anything decent he says, that he really genuinely gives a fck about, will just be seen as yet another Keane rant.

    Right now he's just news fodder. If someone needs a story, ask Keane a controversial question and boom, news.

    And on the thing of him being Mourinho-esque, would he even be in the spotlight if it wasn't for these things? He's not deflecting attention away from anything. He's far more in the news then say Hodgeson, Bruce or Jewell. All this does is give people an excuse to actually look at his position and say "yeah keep your own house in order there Roy".

    IMO at the moment he, and Sunderland, would be better off if he just kept his head down and worked on getting the results to keep them up.

    Pretty much what I was going to say. Fergie, Wenger, etc all get asked about the English team but they answer in a more respectful way, they never criticise the FA or the managers. There are ways to deflect these questions. Every time I see Keane make statements about Irish football and the FAI I cringe, his media handling and general professionalism is terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Here's the first United fan in :D

    Tbh honest yes that is the only difference, but it's a pretty big one. No one gives a sh1t about what you or I say but people listen to him, whether he's right or wrong.

    Hah - speak for yourself! I'm sure my opinions are very respected in world football!

    Yes, people listen to him, right or wrong, but that is part of the issue. He may be wrong, he may be right; it is up to the people that recieve his views to make up their own minds based on all the available infomration. Roy Keane is giving his opinion on matters he is asked of. He may 'only' be the manager of a struggling premiership team, but people seem to be discounting the fact he played for Ireland, so would have had dealings with the FAI directly as a player for years. He is now the manager of a number of Irish players, so more dealings there. I'm sure Roy Keane is more clued in about the workings and dealings of the FAI than the average Irish punter is.

    As for Trappatoni being appointed and thus showing he has no inside track - i guess we have to just stop reading every paper - as there were a number still touting El Tel for the job in the days leading up to the appointment.
    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    And on the thing of him being Mourinho-esque, would he even be in the spotlight if it wasn't for these things? He's not deflecting attention away from anything. He's far more in the news then say Hodgeson, Bruce or Jewell.
    Is he really though - could it be we just hear more of him because he speaks on Irish topics, unlike the other 3 managers. I certainly see enough of Bruce on the TV weekly. I'm not sure there is any more quantity to Roy's media apearences, just they get more coverage over here becuase of the subject matter and who he is. Most of the stuff I see on TV with Roy consists of him being asked questions, and answering them, at press conferences. Conferences every clubs has before matches. Its not like he is inviting the SIndo reports round for tea and biscuits by the fire while he rants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Exactly. The irony of people on an internet giving out about someone else giving their opinion on something else is delicious.

    1: Believe it or not, my handle here isnt my real name.

    2: This is a forum for random opinions on various football related issues. A sunderland press conference is not.

    3: Roy Keane has previous with the FAI, my internet name does not.

    The issue is threefold. One he was wrong. Secondly he should have other things to worry about than giving a running commentary on other teams and indeed sports. Thirdly he should have enough cop on to stay out of FAI politics.

    Tauren, have you heard any other manager answering questions about other sports at post game press conferences?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Tauren, have you heard any other manager answering questions about other sports at post game press conferences?
    Yes.

    England winnign the rugby world cup - commented on by most english based managers at the time.

    SCORE 1!

    Besides, so freakin what. Roys only reason for being at a press conference is to answert he questions the media put to him. If it happens to be on the state of the Cork County Board, and Roy Keane can answer teh question and give his opnion, why not just answer it?


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