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porcupine Tree

  • 16-02-2008 10:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭


    Anyone else a fan? i am totally hooked on this excellent band right now.:cool:
    In Absentia, one of the best Albums i've ever heard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    Yep, excellent band.

    Their most recent album, Fear Of A Blank Planet, is rather good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    blastman wrote: »
    Yep, excellent band.

    Their most recent album, Fear Of A Blank Planet, is rather good too.

    love that album as well, also got Lightulb Sun and Deadwing, Signify and the Sky Moves Sideways. plus a friend sent me recordings, 1 and 2 as well as XM. and XM 2
    My next Band on my need to see live list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Wow, a friend just told me that a lot of the tracks on In Absentia are about the Wests, Fred and his wife, reading the Lyrics of Strip the Soul seems to prove it.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Man it seems like we have a thread at least once a month about these guys .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Man it seems like we have a thread at least once a month about these guys .

    Apologies, i missed the other threads


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    The pre-signifiy stuff is excellent, if you can get into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    mp3guy wrote: »
    The pre-signifiy stuff is excellent, if you can get into it.

    Agree, it did take longer for it to click.
    Can't get my hands on their first album though, apparently some of the earlier stuff had limited release, but most of it is due to be re-released later this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭1408


    my brothers into them, im indifferent, theyre nominated for a grammy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Tommy the Cat


    Gavin Harrison is class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    I'm listening to them cos they playing a festival I'm going to. Really really like the stuff I've heard. Gonna buy an album or three. Any recommendations(gonna get Fear of a Blank Planet anyway, loving that song).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Mushy wrote: »
    I'm listening to them cos they playing a festival I'm going to. Really really like the stuff I've heard. Gonna buy an album or three. Any recommendations(gonna get Fear of a Blank Planet anyway, loving that song).

    Good choice, and you'll definitely need In Absentia.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    Yep, absolutely savage band. What's there to say that hasn't been said?

    Anyone heard Blackfields? It's Steve Wilson's side project with an Israeli musician. Pretty cool stuff, more mainstream than PT.

    As for three album to buy, get Fear of a Blank Planet, the Nil Recurring EP (OMG I love 'Cheating The Polygraph'), and Deadwing. Good for starters. I have the entire discography now, weighs in at about 3GB on my PC. I think there's about 30 albums.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Ziltoid


    Nil Recurring was just leftovers of Fear of a Blank Planet and I definitely wouldn't recomend it. Porcupine Trees best albums to me would be In Absentia and Signify. Deadwing definitely has some of their best songs but it doesn't flow as well as AI & Sig. Fear of a Blank Planet is an awesome experience as well ever though it has a few ify moments. One of the best bands around at the moment.
    All you peeps should buy Marbles by Marillion, Dogman by Kings X, Images & Words by Dream Theater, and Ocean Machine by Devin Townsend!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    Ziltoid wrote: »
    Nil Recurring was just leftovers of Fear of a Blank Planet and I definitely wouldn't recomend it


    I'd say the opposite really, normal and cheating the polygraph on it are brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    I agree, those two songs I actually find better than the first two songs on FOABP, as well as What Happens Now. Leftovers they are not, the only reasoning behind the exclusion from the album would be Wilson's adherence to the album's consistency and mood, these songs, while excellent, don't work with the overall album; they are however excellent as an EP. As for those other bands, I don't like Dream Theater very much at all, mostly LaBrie's vocals and the overall simplicity with added "cheese factor" don't appeal to me. Marillion are just cheese lavished with several brands of cheese (not to mention repetitive) and King's X are alright, but nothing to write home about IMO. Supposedly great live though.

    If you want some prog recommendations, definitely get King Crimson, Camel, some Yes, Cynic, Coprofago (for that metal twist), Opeth (Wilson produced two albums for them and drew inspiration from them) and Gordian Knot. There's plenty more where that came from, if anyone wants more, but I'm sure these groups are reiterated throughout the dozens of prog related posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Demeyes


    I had On the Sunday of Life and Up the Downstair but I didn't really get into them at all. Then a few people told me to try something newer so I got In Absentia. Thats a really deadly album. I've been listening to it a lot since I got my hands on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Demeyes wrote: »
    I had On the Sunday of Life and Up the Downstair but I didn't really get into them at all. Then a few people told me to try something newer so I got In Absentia. Thats a really deadly album. I've been listening to it a lot since I got my hands on it.

    Incredible Album, the earlier stuff, esp the first two albums are very different indeed,i find it hard to get into them as well, but it was In Absentia that got me hooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I love In Absentia and Lightbulb Sun... Trains is one of my all time favourite songs.

    For the collectors, try and find XM1 and XM2 (Full sessions recorded for XM Satellite Radio) - I believe they were released to the fan club only, and Out Absentia (unauthorised bootleg of tracks that were cut from In Absentia)

    On a side note, I had a snippet of Fadeaway as my ringtone on my last phone. I gave my phone to my brother when I upgraded, and he says he has been asked by a good few people what the music is from...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Ikey82


    Yes. one of the great band. I like them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Anyone who has posted on this thread who doesnt own the "Arriving somewhere..." dvd should buy it. today.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Ziltoid


    I agree, those two songs I actually find better than the first two songs on FOABP, as well as What Happens Now. Leftovers they are not, the only reasoning behind the exclusion from the album would be Wilson's adherence to the album's consistency and mood, these songs, while excellent, don't work with the overall album; they are however excellent as an EP. As for those other bands, I don't like Dream Theater very much at all, mostly LaBrie's vocals and the overall simplicity with added "cheese factor" don't appeal to me. Marillion are just cheese lavished with several brands of cheese (not to mention repetitive) and King's X are alright, but nothing to write home about IMO. Supposedly great live though.

    If you want some prog recommendations, definitely get King Crimson, Camel, some Yes, Cynic, Coprofago (for that metal twist), Opeth (Wilson produced two albums for them and drew inspiration from them) and Gordian Knot. There's plenty more where that came from, if anyone wants more, but I'm sure these groups are reiterated throughout the dozens of prog related posts.


    Some of what you said may be true but the specific albums I mentioned are hard not to dig. You've obviously never heard Marbles. Also Opeth are far more repetitive than Marillion. Gordian Knot are great though! I don't know where you got the whole simplicity/Dream Theater connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    TBH, most people dismiss Marillion without even listening to anything they've done in the last twenty years or so. It's blatantly obvious LightofDarkness hasn't heard Marbles, or Brave either, I'd say.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 68,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    I'm a big Marillion and Fish fan and have meant for quite a while to check them out, what would I start with??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    For Marillion, start with Marbles, one of their more recent releases but reckoned to be among their best. There's a couple of longer songs on it, but in general it's very easy to get into and has a good variety in the songs. Then try Afraid Of Sunlight, a bit older but still very accessible. For something a bit more proggy, Brave is generally acknowledged as their masterpiece.

    Fish's solo stuff I'm not as familiar with, but he has a best of called Bouillabaisse which is very good and an excellent intro. Fellini Nights and Raingods With Zippos are two albums which garner a lot of recommendations from what I've heard.

    For Marillion info: http://www.marillion.com

    For Fish info: http://www.the-company.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    Most of that post was just in response to Ziltoid's post about Nil Recurring, just to show how easy it is to write something off with stereotypical criticisms (leftovers?). Sorry, I just don't like that epic, operatic/theatrical, over-the-top sort of thing. Or the ballad type stuff, for that matter. Like I really don't like Metropolis Pt. II by Dream Theater. It just sounds ridiculous to me, I can't take it seriously. I used to like that stuff, more for the technical playing, like John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy. I still like some Liquid Tension Experiment. But I'm much more into the jazzy side of things these days, and these guys don't make interesting enough music for my tastes any more. Not saying I'm intellectually superior or something, I just don't like it. And I only mentioned Opeth because they are connected to Wilson. I still kind of like Opeth, but not half as much as I once did.

    I have heard Marbles, and it really just didn't appeal to me. I'm not going to apologise for that.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 68,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    blastman wrote: »
    For Marillion, start with Marbles, one of their more recent releases but reckoned to be among their best. There's a couple of longer songs on it, but in general it's very easy to get into and has a good variety in the songs. Then try Afraid Of Sunlight, a bit older but still very accessible. For something a bit more proggy, Brave is generally acknowledged as their masterpiece.

    Fish's solo stuff I'm not as familiar with, but he has a best of called Bouillabaisse which is very good and an excellent intro. Fellini Nights and Raingods With Zippos are two albums which garner a lot of recommendations from what I've heard.

    For Marillion info: http://www.marillion.com

    For Fish info: http://www.the-company.com

    Will do, cheers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Found a new PT EP lately called We Lost The Skyline. Its a live recording in front of a small audience - Steve Wilson on his own with a guitar playing some PT songs, with John Wesley joining him for a few tracks. Just 8 short tracks (including The Sky Moves Sideways, Trains, Lazarus and Waiting), but its really good. Worth hunting down. Check here for a review.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Cheers Mr E.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Anyone else a fan? i am totally hooked on this excellent band right now.:cool:
    In Absentia, one of the best Albums I've ever heard.
    Yes a brilliant band there latest album Fear Of a Blank Planet is superb.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Just got into PT since last week. I like Up the Downstair, although my criticism of it would be that its a little bit too indebted to Pink Floyd.

    Fear of Blank Planet is quite good too. Tracks 3 and 7 are my favourites. I like the way Wilson adapts his influences and puts his own interpretations on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Lads, Porcupine Tree doing a European Tour in October...what are the chances of an Irish date? Would love to see them over here!

    http://www.porcupinetree.com/news.cfm#1550


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    Apparently they played here before to a disappointing turn out, so I'm not sure they're too keen on coming back.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 68,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    No , there wasn't many at their last gig here which was disappointing, was talking to a Kiwi friend who seen them last week in Auckland and said they were excellent!! Fingers crossed they might give us a second chance!:rolleyes:

    P.S - From the earlier posts, I'd like to give a thumbs up to Marbles, thought it was great!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=61819211

    Here ya go guys...look for the thing "Bring PT to Dublin" petiton and sign up. I'd love to see it happen anyway. What happened last time? I'd drag people this time anyway, if it wasnt too expensive. All I know is, its less than a motnh till I see them:D


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 68,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    168 signed up, lets get it upto a 1000 by the end of the week!!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Gridlock wrote: »
    168 signed up, lets get it upto a 1000 by the end of the week!!:D
    Not bad going, it was about 9 when i signed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Got a phone call today, from a mate in the UK, he got me a ticket for porcupine Tree in october in London, same mate got me a Led Zeppelin ticket last year.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭anti-venom


    Have any of you heard another of Steve Wilson's side projects called I.E.M. (Incredible Expanding Mindfcuk) in which he plays all instruments himself? This is a more experimental, psychedelic/space rock sort of thing and not really in the vein of Porcupine Tree but well worth a listen though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Nea


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Got a phone call today, from a mate in the UK, he got me a ticket for porcupine Tree in october in London, same mate got me a Led Zeppelin ticket last year.:cool:

    Lucky hoor.
    I am heading over to London that weekend and am trying to source tickets. Scandalous prices on ebay at the mo:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Nea wrote: »
    Lucky hoor.
    I am heading over to London that weekend and am trying to source tickets. Scandalous prices on ebay at the mo:eek:

    I know a few people from the UK through the Rush fan club going to the gig, i'll ask around if there's any spare tickets available.:cool:PM if i find anything.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Think I'm lucky to have seen Porcupine Tree twice before. They're truly exceptional live, that's for sure. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Think I'm lucky to have seen Porcupine Tree twice before. They're truly exceptional live, that's for sure. ;)

    This will be my first time, should be an excellent night.:cool:
    Imagine if we got them to play Galway Art's Fest next year:eek: It will never happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Nea


    YAY, Looks like I will be going.
    A big bualadh bos to galwayrush.
    Excited like a child!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Nea wrote: »
    YAY, Looks like I will be going.
    A big bualadh bos to galwayrush.
    Excited like a child!!!
    Cheers :)

    :cool: It'll be a fantastic Gig.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭:Keith:


    Lucky you. Would love to see them live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Nea


    Wow what a great gig.
    Dont think I have ever got goosebumps as much at the one gig!
    I wanted Open Car and Way Out of Here and got my wish, worth the ticket price alone.

    Indigo is a great venue, sound was terrific.

    They said they were starting to write for a new album so hopefully they will play here next time round!

    Big up to galwayrush for sorting us out with tickets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Nea wrote: »
    Wow what a great gig.
    Dont think I have ever got goosebumps as much at the one gig!
    I wanted Open Car and Way Out of Here and got my wish, worth the ticket price alone.

    Indigo is a great venue, sound was terrific.

    They said they were starting to write for a new album so hopefully they will play here next time round!

    Big up to galwayrush for sorting us out with tickets


    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 krimson765


    saw them recently in Tilburg,very enjoyable,excellent venue 013..Played the entire FOABP,Would have preferred to have heard just a few songs from it..but they did play some older songs like 'sever' and 'sleep of no dreaming' which was interesting.Gavin Harrison was terrific as always

    fear of a blank planet
    my ashes
    anesthetise
    sentimental
    way out of here
    sleep together
    normal
    stars die
    what happens now
    wedding nails
    dark matter
    sever
    half light
    open car
    blackest eyes
    ----encore--
    sleep of no dreaming
    halo

    what was the english set list like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Nea


    Quite similar, I presume the whole of FOABP was played for the DVD recording

    Normal
    Drown With Me
    Stars Die
    What Happens Now?
    Anesthetize
    Open Car
    Dark Matter
    Wedding Nails
    Prodigal
    Strip The Soul
    Half Light
    Way Out Of Here
    Sleep Together
    Encore:
    Fear Of A Blank Planet
    Halo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 krimson765


    yes the first night they did only,the 2nd night they played more from In absentia i heard.strip the soul,3., and prodigal as well as cheating the polygraph..
    im sure they played fear of a blank planet again as wilson accidentally knocked over the mic stand the first night.!


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