International Poker Open 2008

carfax

Hi all,

Little help needed;

Would you prefer?

Option A: 1,000 runner event starting on a Saturday morning with 100 players coming back for play on Day 2.

Option B: 1,200 runner event with 600 players starting on a Friday (Day 1A) and another 600 players starting on a Saturday (Day 1B). Day 2 would be Sunday and a winner would be declared before the end of the day.

I don't want to influence the vote too much but basically option A means a lot of hassle as regards finding 120 staff (not impossible but close to it) to run Day 1.

Option B allows us to provide players with a standard that they could compare with the EPT etc as we would staff it with at least 85 people for the 600 players. It also means that up to 600 players will need to take a day off work.

Opinions please and remember that the whole purpose of this tournament is to open up and make accessable a big field poker tournaments for players that normally have a max buy-in of €20-€50. Its not really aimed at people that normally have a minimum buy-in of €200.

rag2gar

Option A seems better, its cool seeing 1000 players in one room!

carfax

Errr....Thought I posted a poll here, have to call for help.

Ollieboy

why not have day 1A on Saturday, day 1B on Sunday, that way your only putting out 100 people on the Monday and there all in the money.

Also, a buy-in of 200 at least!

best of luck with it.

I also think option 1 is a nitemare for you.

Goodluck2me

Option B

I`d go for Option1 but only if its feasible to do it properly, if its not then limit it to 800 or w/e you can manage effectively.
I think €200 this year too. 175+25 I think.

ditpoker

is there a bank holiday around then, work it into that weekend maybe!?

i'd say keep the buy in at 150, remember while everyone on boards (and he student market of boards ) are a year older and wiser and supposedly richer, your target market's budget hasnt changed,so while i originally thought "yea, im with joe, 200 sounds good" with a bit of thought i know two years ago that would have put me off. i will play 200, but alot wont. 150 worked last time, if it aint broke, dont fix it.

3 day allows for more time to generate rake at cash tables.

3 day allows people like myself play day 1, deal day 2, or vice versa.

RasTa

Whatever happens just make sure that all players are under the same roof when we get to the money and no phones are used etc etc.

CourierCollie

Ollieboy wrote: »

why not have day 1A on Saturday, day 1B on Sunday, that way your only putting out 100 people on the Monday and there all in the money.

Also, a buy-in of 200 at least!

best of luck with it.

I also think option 1 is a nitemare for you.

I totally agree with Ollieboy. Nobody would mind pulling a sickie on a Monday if there in the money. Taking a day off on a Friday, for what could be 1 hours playing, sure yed only get students. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

dK1NG

Agree that people would be much less inclined to take the fri off.

I'd vote for option one.

Get In There

CourierCollie wrote: »

I totally agree with Ollieboy. Nobody would mind pulling a sickie on a Monday if there in the money. Taking a day off on a Friday, for what could be 1 hours playing, sure yed only get students. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I agree also...

winstons pt

Ollieboy wrote: »

why not have day 1A on Saturday, day 1B on Sunday, that way your only putting out 100 people on the Monday and there all in the money.

Also, a buy-in of 200 at least!

best of luck with it.

I also think option 1 is a nitemare for you.

Hi Stephan, i think ollieboy is right, if players have to come back on the Monday, it will be only 100 or so,and they have some money, players will have peace of mind on the saturday and sunday, i seen how busy you were last year, its not worth it man, this would be a lot easy for you and you could give more att to players when they need you, plus buy in €175 + €25
Anyway i wish you the very best of luck with it.
If you need any help let me know........Paddy

newbie2

Ollieboy wrote: »

why not have day 1A on Saturday, day 1B on Sunday, that way your only putting out 100 people on the Monday and there all in the money.

Also, a buy-in of 200 at least!

best of luck with it.

I also think option 1 is a nitemare for you.

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mdwexford

Yeah Ollie's suggestion sounds good, if not then option B as self deal tables sucked last time. Getting 100+ dealers is impossible.

green123

yeah ollie made this suggestion before , and it sounds like a good idea

Tinytony

Like Ollies option too.

Think you should leave the buy-in as it is as you will definitely lose the more casual players if you up it to €200 and as you've said this is your main target area for this tournament.

carfax

Tinytony wrote: »

Like Ollies option too.

Think you should leave the buy-in as it is as you will definitely lose the more casual players if you up it to €200 and as you've said this is your main target area for this tournament.

Agree with is alright but the thing that everyone has missed so far is that Day 2 players cannot have made the money before the start of play on that day.

i.e. Day 1A might have 100 players remaining and Day 1B might have 200.....Therefore 300 are now coming back for play, do we then re-structure the prize-pool to pay all 300?.....

Our whole point this year is to make sure that players get a proper service for the €25 reg, so option B it is......We want to steer clear of bank holidays so I think that anyone wishing to play will have to either register early to ensure their seat on day 1B or simply take a Friday off work to play on Day 1A (think about it though if you plan even two months in advance its not going to be a problem to take a Friday off, is it?).

I've had dozens of emails already from overseas players that are planning to bring their families over for the weekend so a Friday for Day 1A will be perfect for them as it will allow them to spend time with their families on the Saturday whether they are still in the tournament or not. I know we will be taking a risk with it but I think it is better than relying on 200 odd players taking a sickie on a Monday morning (remember lots of poker players work for themselves and therefore can't take sickies).

Stephen.

Ste05

Poll added (slightly incorrectly by me ), then poll closed, then thread locked, then some other Ste05 messing, finally all posts moved to a new thread, basically some uber mod skills showed and a great display by me to correct a tiny error.

But it should all be done now.

Public Poll added.

carfax

Cheers Ste.....I think if we get 100 votes it will give us a good overall idea although all of the posts so far have been very constructive.

Blip

carfax wrote: »

Agree with is alright but the thing that everyone has missed so far is that Day 2 players cannot have made the money before the start of play on that day.

i.e. Day 1A might have 100 players remaining and Day 1B might have 200.....Therefore 300 are now coming back for play, do we then re-structure the prize-pool to pay all 300?.....

Just play down to 50 runners on each day,

Can we add Ollie's suggestion to the poll?

carfax

Its a close thing in the poll so far.....Very interesting

carfax

Blip wrote: »

Just play down to 50 runners on each day,

Can we add Ollie's suggestion to the poll?

This is more of just a guideline for uswhen organising it (we basically have our mind made up but want to make sure we aren't doing something that nobody will play in.....

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As regards playing down to 50 on each day my point is that you simply can't forecast exactly how many players will be left by a given level and you have to play the same amount of time for both Day 1A and Day 1B, otherwise when you come back for play on day 2 half the field could be at 300-600 and the other half at 500-1,000.

carfax

Wow, ok funny how these polls can start out all even and then you start to get a majority.....

Think its looking like option B, quality....Might be harder to promote, i.e. Saturday will probably fill before the Friday but in terms of running the tournament it means we will be able to enjoy it more.

WayneD1982

Option B gives u the chance to make sure every player is looked after and is happy with the the fact proper dealers are in front of them...Last year i was on a self dealt table and even though it wasnt for that long it didnt feel like a proper tourney,more like a pub game....In the end it was a very good day nut defo Option B this year


When are u planning to have it this year Ste?

ZZR1100

aggree with olly. definatly needs to be a 200 entry.
Also make sure it doesnt clash with connies festival in Oct as this will take a large chunk of people out of your tourney although it is a 500

carfax

WayneD1982 wrote: »

When are u planning to have it this year Ste?

It will be around the same time as last year mate....We'll be able to announce everything soon enough.

carfax

ZZR1100 wrote: »

aggree with olly. definatly needs to be a 200 entry.
Also make sure it doesnt clash with connies festival in Oct as this will take a large chunk of people out of your tourney although it is a 500

Cheers for the advice we'll take that on board.

mickc

Whats the difference in structure between the 2 options?

carfax

mickc wrote: »

Whats the difference in structure between the 2 options?

Blind structure??? More or less the exact same just less of a marathon-in-a-day if option B

mickc

thanks..

mcaul

dK1NG wrote: »

Agree that people would be much less inclined to take the fri off.

I'd vote for option one.

A 3pm start on Fiday would mean a half day at most for those who can't take the day off. A late finish is compensated by a Saturday morning lie-in whereas the Saturday players would have early start & early finish meaning less tired players on the final day.

ditpoker

mcaul wrote: »

A 3pm start on Fiday would mean a half day at most for those who can't take the day off. A late finish is compensated by a Saturday morning lie-in whereas the Saturday players would have early start & early finish meaning less tired players on the final day.

most sensible post so far...the man talks sense!

i'll play the friday so all the sharks know to avoid me and so at least 1 person shows up on friday...