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XBox or PS3 for GTA

  • 14-02-2008 12:13am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭


    Okay - so been a big fan of GTA from way back.

    Currently trying to decide whether to purchase a PS3 or XBox for GTA IV.

    Some back-ground - have had one PS and two PS2s - (mother gave one away when I was out of the country) and been happy with them

    Can anyone give their opinion on the pros and cons for each?

    Also if anyone has any info re special prices/bargains that would be super.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭eoin2nc


    Xbox will have 'exclusive downloadable content' for GTA IV. Not sure whatt that means though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    If you are getting the console solely for GTA IV, then I suppose the XBox360 would be the best bet as it will have 'exclusive downloadable content', as above.

    But honestly, I don't think you can judge what console to get, based on one game. Weigh up the options fully before deciding.

    My 2cents...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,304 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Wasnt this exact same question asked aabout a week ago? Anyway, as the others have said, the 360 will be the best for GTA, at least until the exclusive eventually turns into a timed exclusive, and is released on other formats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    i loved the first two but i dont see what so good about these new GTA's from 3 onwards it just wasent the same.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    If you're going to buy a console just for this game, it's probably better to wait untill nearer the time it's released when reviews and comparisons for both systems are available


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    The 360 has a superior game library at the moment but the PS3 seems to be improving in that respect a lot recently. I'm sure Gran Turismo will sell a pile of consoles for them.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Top Gear track tbh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    just a simple question,but rather ask in another way.

    OP(self talking):do i like Final Fantasy series or Metal Gear Series?

    for the future i can only see very few big titles exclusive for ps3(mostly will be multiplatform),check those games out and you have your answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,611 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    gta seems to be better developed on 360. gamesmaster magazine has said the ps3 version is a week behind and all the trailers of gta4 have been taken from 360.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    How can you say that GTA is better developed on the 360? Who exactly has played both to say which is better?

    The XBOX 360 will have downloadable content but will it be free?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,295 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    The XBOX 360 will have downloadable content but will it be free?
    Highly doubtful!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Branoic


    Mossy Monk wrote: »

    The XBOX 360 will have downloadable content but will it be free?


    Why would that matter when you compare it to the PS3 version which won't have the content, free or not? I for one have got no problem spending a wee bit on downloadable extras for games through Live if I think it's worth it. TBH though I'm betting the "exclusive content" will end up being a new outfit or something. To hell with that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    Ok folks just to clear up a couple of things - it won't be solely for GTA IV but that would be the main purpose.

    Will probably check out the other games I might have an interest in.

    On a related matter how exactly does the online connection work for both models?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Xbox live works extremely well - very slick but the downside is you have to pay for it. I don't have a PS3 but as far as I'm aware PSN is free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭Benzino


    Dont choose which console to get based on the downloadable content. Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 will be getting downloadable content, However the 360 will be getting 2 extra missions.

    Now, is it worth buying a 360 just for 2 extra missions? No.

    I really think you should base your decision on the other games on the each console (both out now or coming out).

    By the way, PS3M played/seen the PS3 version of the game, and they didn't mention anything about poor frame rates etc. So don't base your decision on that either, as nobody as seen both versions running side by side (except Rockstar ofc), so nobody can claim that one version is "better" than the other.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,701 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I'd probably buy the 360 edition first as I prefer the controller, but if there is an issue of graphical fidelity between the two platforms then I'll go for which so ever is better looking, as I am quite quite shallow.

    It is high time to put a deposit down on one too, my friends in Gamestop tell me they are taking a good number of said deposits every day now.




    Personally I'd rather play a conversion of GTA SA on the Wii, with a new storyline perhaps, Hmmmm....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    It is high time to put a deposit down on one too, my friends in Gamestop tell me they are taking a good number of said deposits every day now.

    Buy online, cheaper too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 383 ✭✭DILLIGAF


    eewwww GTA on an XBOX.....weird! :/ I'm not sure of 3 made it to the original XBOX did it? Anyway, I'll always associate the series with the playstation platform and/or controller. And as for exclusive content, well that's just another sign that xbox has always been slightly behind taking a large portion of the market for what is probably one of the best selling series of games ever. So they cut themselves a small deal for a mission or two in order to be "in" with the developers and seem somewhat closer or more controlling over the title. It's bragging rights and nothing more if you ask me. Playstation can be quietly confident that their black beauty will deliver as their machines always do! The playstation WILL deliver in general! Silent Hill 5, Gran Turismo, MGS4 etc etc. Yeah the shelves of the 360 section of games stores have buckets of titles, but quality and quantity are still important concepts to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    As we've seen in the past, a particular game can play very differently on the 2 consoles, Half life orange box being a case in point.There are a few things to take into account in terms of gta4.

    Size: It's assumed that would be a fairly large game to squeeze onto a disk.The ps3 has a huge advantage in this field.A blu-ray can hold about 25gb.A dvd can hold just 4.7gb.That is a huge difference..It probably created a dilemma for rockstar.They had to make the two versions the same.They surely had to SQUEEZE it to the limit to fit it on a dvd for the xbox360.How good a job they did of fitting it remains to be seen????

    Performance: Mass effect(360), apparently increased the risk of a 360 console gettin the rrod.Gta4, presumably would ask as much or more of a system as mass effect.Could lead to problems.....Ps3 should be able to handle it

    The delay:Apparently, the reason gta4 has been delayed 6 months is because of the ps3 version.Why is this??Was the problem rectified properly???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Makaveli


    eewwww GTA on a console. The game will always be a PC game to me.

    As has already been said you should weigh up each console based on the type of games you like. Look at the exclusives (current and future) for each machine to see which appeals more.
    Zonda999 wrote:
    It's assumed that would be a fairly large game to squeeze onto a disk.The ps3 has a huge advantage in this field.A blu-ray can hold about 25gb.A dvd can hold just 4.7gb.That is a huge difference..It probably created a dilemma for rockstar.They had to make the two versions the same.They surely had to SQUEEZE it to the limit to fit it on a dvd for the xbox360.

    Surely the Xbox can read dual layer discs?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    Performance: Mass effect(360), apparently increased the risk of a 360 console gettin the rrod.Gta4, presumably would ask as much or more of a system as mass effect.Could lead to problems.....Ps3 should be able to handle it
    Apparently Dead Rising, PGR 3, Halo 3, Gears of War and Crackdown also does this. Almost every game on the 360 will be using 100% of the CPU/GPU cycles constantly, a notion that one game is worse than another at causing RROD is bull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    Makaveli wrote: »


    Surely the Xbox can read dual layer discs?

    It does'nt to the best of my knowledge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭eoin2nc


    Zonda999 wrote: »

    Size: It's assumed that would be a fairly large game to squeeze onto a disk.The ps3 has a huge advantage in this field.A blu-ray can hold about 25gb.A dvd can hold just 4.7gb.That is a huge difference..It probably created a dilemma for rockstar.They had to make the two versions the same.They surely had to SQUEEZE it to the limit to fit it on a dvd for the xbox360.How good a job they did of fitting it remains to be seen????

    Performance: Mass effect(360), apparently increased the risk of a 360 console gettin the rrod.Gta4, presumably would ask as much or more of a system as mass effect.Could lead to problems.....Ps3 should be able to handle it


    Hasn't been a problem with any game yet, cant see how Mass Effect made any more use of the 360 CPU than a game like Gears of War, and Ive played those two games and I havent got the rrod yet. I agree with Ciaran that, that statement is bull.

    The two versions of GTA IV will be almost identical, as is the case with most multi-platform titles IMO


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    It does'nt to the best of my knowledge

    Of course it does. Even the old Xbox did (there are a few games out for that > 5Gb on one disk). Every DVD player that I've ever seen does. How else would they play movies (most of which come on dual layer disks).

    To the OP. If you only want the console for one game get the cheapest console + game. There's not going to be much difference between the two. If you want either console to play more games then we need more info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭eoin2nc


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    It does'nt to the best of my knowledge

    It does, check wikipedia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    :rolleyes:
    Of course the 360 can read dual layer discs. Sure games like Gears, Mass Effect, COD4, they're all over 6 gigs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    Fair enough.Surely then , the ps3 can read 50gb dual layer BD's???Please dont think i'm biased toward the ps3.I own both consoles and rate the 360 a lot higher as a games machine


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    Fair enough.Surely then , the ps3 can read 50gb dual layer BD's???Please dont think i'm biased toward the ps3.I own both consoles and rate the 360 a lot higher as a games machine

    You'd imagine the games would be much more ahead of the 360 then if disk storage was all that mattered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭eoin2nc


    Yes I would imagine they can read dual layer Blu-Ray


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,611 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    How can you say that GTA is better developed on the 360? Who exactly has played both to say which is better?

    The XBOX 360 will have downloadable content but will it be free?

    its definitely better developed than the ps3 version at the moment. as i said, ps3 version is behind schedule compared to 360 and its been confirmed by rockstar that all the trailers are from the 360. why, because the ps3 version aint as ready. dont get me wrong, they will both end up practically the same gamplay and graphics wise bar those 2 extra 360 missions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    Not a huge fan of MS or Sony so I'm not too biased either way. From what I've seen, in nearly all the dual next gen format games, the version on the 360 has nearly always been superior in some way (usually graphics). There are lots of articles comparing the same games on the different consoles. 360 is very cheap just got a brand new one from the UK for 160 Stg! Sonys Blu Ray is a big big feature though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 383 ✭✭DILLIGAF


    I lived in a house last year where all we did was play computer games and drink in our spare time! Good times, good times! Anyway, we had a 360 at our disposal and a 32"HD over the fireplace to boot! I always had a strange distance with the machine. If it was the controller, XBOX Live or just the splash screen that alienated me is anyones guess! What I do know, is that everyone has their comfort zone. My comes in the shape of a dual shock controller. So that's why I'll be getting GTA for the PS3 I bought instead of the XBOX 360 that I didn't! The fact that XBOX live player get some gimmic missions(we don't know if their even free yet) and that fact that the screenshots so far are from a 360 engine,in no way whatsoever,even in the smallest proportion, that Rockstar are going to release a game that is different on one console then it is on the other, when BOTH machines are capable of reaching the same power and performance.

    They need to get public interest out, so it's a case of picking which screens look better right now.

    It's like "**** we need some PR material.Someone gimme a 30 second long clip I can give these guys.Pick whichever one looks best right now.yeah that'll do cheers."

    Not, "The playstation version is going to looks terrible, better pretend it's only coming out for the 360" :D

    Basically guys, yeah I'm biased. Sony have been slow in getting games out for their console, but I have to say, and I've only owned mine for over a week, that the games I've played so far are of such a high standard, that after a year of the 360, I'm not sure there are many more for that console that I can say grabbed my attention quite this well.

    So far,PS3 faves :
    Drakes Fortune(no spoilers im not finished it)
    Devil May Cry 4
    Warhawk

    360 faves:
    Halo 3(finished in one((long))sitting on legendary...meh)
    Gears Of War(great then but is already looking dated)
    Crackdown

    Yeah that's about all I can think of! Bang on even too! What I'm saying is, how many 360 ONLY quality games have been out so far?Not enough to substantiate claims that the machine is doing any better,performance or production wise then the more or less new born PS3!The engine hasn't been available as long as the fully supported 360 has for developers to really get their claws into creating games on it. So while Sony's team continue to improve the software given to developers to make the creation process quicker and more efficient, so will the 360 always be that little bit ahead in this area and it is something that I'm sure will balance out in time to come.

    GTA 4 will be exactly the same across all formats,Rockstar have been doing this long enough to know that if they let one side down(including the 360,let's not rule out it's already evident performance issues) then it could spell the end of a large happy group of devout followers to the series.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,304 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    DILLIGAF wrote: »
    Yeah that's about all I can think of! Bang on even too! What I'm saying is, how many 360 ONLY quality games have been out so far?Not enough to substantiate claims that the machine is doing any better,performance or production wise then the more or less new born PS3!
    Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Ace Combat 6,
    Halo, Gears of War (How it GoW looking dated?? Its the Unreal 3.0 engine :confused:)...nope, no good games there :rolleyes: (and i'm not saying that the PS3 has none...just alot less so far)

    If someone has both consoles, there is no reason to get the PS3 version (that i can see). Maybe if they just prefer using the PS3. But with the exclusive content (which will probably only be some missions, and definatly wont be free), its got more to offer the the PS3 version.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    The extra content will definitely not be free. The money paid by Microsoft to Rockstar was an advance on estimated earnings from the content.

    http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6023&Itemid=2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭Benzino


    Kiith wrote: »
    If someone has both consoles, there is no reason to get the PS3 version (that i can see). Maybe if they just prefer using the PS3. But with the exclusive content (which will probably only be some missions, and definatly wont be free), its got more to offer the the PS3 version.

    Or if they want to play it online without paying... Which, as a student, is a pretty big deal for me.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,304 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Benzino wrote: »
    Or if they want to play it online without paying... Which, as a student, is a pretty big deal for me.
    That i can understand. So assuming there is a proper multiplayer (which i'm sceptical (or possibly ignorant) about), this is a + for the PS3 version.

    edit...just saw that this does have limited multiplayer. So ya, the PS3 is better, if only for the fact that it is free. Still think Live is better though, but lets not open up that can of worms again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Benzino wrote: »
    Or if they want to play it online without paying... Which, as a student, is a pretty big deal for me.

    You could have saved even more money by buying only one console :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭Benzino


    You could have saved even more money by buying only one console :D

    hehe, I have both consoles and didnt pay a penny for them :p


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Will either version be region-free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭talking_walnut


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Will either version be region-free?

    I think that's more of a console feature than an option to the developer i.e Microsoft and Sony require all games to be region locked. I could be wrong on this but I really don't think I am :). I love that Nintendo ditched this. It makes no sense.

    As for the PS3 havin Blu-Ray vs 360's DVD. I can't see how this could make a difference. They'll both be based on the same game engine. The graphical improvements the extra space can offer will be minimum.

    Now if only I could afford either console :(


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    PS3 games are all region free. I think MS leaves it up to the developer so some are, some aren't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭talking_walnut


    stevenmu wrote: »
    PS3 games are all region free. I think MS leaves it up to the developer so some are, some aren't.

    My mistake. Haven't followed things like this cause my Xbox1+XBMC is all I need :) (plus I'm too broke to buy either :( )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    I love that Nintendo ditched this. It makes no sense.

    Actually, the Wii is the only one of the three that's (totally) region locked. The DS is great for region free games, but the Wii is the complete opposite.


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