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9 out of 10 Irish men have more estrogen then women

  • 12-02-2008 1:23pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 6


    More men in Ireland have feminine traits in Ireland than 15 years ago.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭declanoneill


    It would explain why so many irish men have boobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭CrazyTalk


    ................What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Source?

    -Funk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    I always knew they were all big girlies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    Ha.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Or that could read the majority of Irish women now have less estrogen than men...

    Any links? What are "feminine traits"? Long hair? makeup?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭derek27


    I sincerely doubt they have more oestrogen than women, but there is a concern at present about the levels of oestrogen mimicking chemicals getting into the irish food chain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    More men in Ireland have feminine traits in Ireland than 15 years ago.


    There are studies that link this directly to the ammount of bottled drinks that people are consuming be it water or carbonated.

    The plastic the bottles are made of after being sitting for a certain ammount of time start leeching estrogen like chemicals into the liquids.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130092108.htm
    Bisphenol A (BPA) is the chemical and BPA is one of many man-made chemicals classified as endocrine disruptors, which alter the function of the endocrine system by mimicking the role of the body's natural hormones. Hormones are secreted through endocrine glands and serve different functions throughout the body.

    The chemical--which is widely used in products such as reusable water bottles, food can linings, water pipes and dental sealants--has been shown to affect reproduction and brain development in animal studies.

    "BPA is just one of many estrogen-like chemicals people are exposed to, and scientists are still trying to figure out how these endocrine disruptors--including natural phyto-estrogens from soy which are often considered healthy--collectively impact human health," he says. "But a growing body of scientific evidence suggests it might be at the cost of your health."

    http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Monomers/BPA-Risk-Bottles13apr05.htm

    Evidence is mounting that a chemical in plastic that is one of the world's most widely used industrial compounds may be risky in the small amounts that seep from bottles and food packaging, according to a report to be published this week in a scientific journal.

    The authors of the report, who reviewed more than 100 studies, urged the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to re-evaluate the risks of bisphenol A and consider restricting its use.

    Bisphenol A, or BPA, has been detected in nearly all humans tested in the U.S. It is a key building block in the manufacture of hard, clear polycarbonate plastics, including baby bottles, water bottles and other food and beverage containers. The chemical can leach from the plastic, especially when the containers are heated, cleaned with harsh detergents or exposed to acidic foods or drinks.

    The chemical is the focus of a contentious debate involving industrial compounds that can mimic sex hormones. Toxicologists say that exposure to man-made hormones skews the developing reproductive systems and brains of newborn animals and could be having the same effects on human fetuses and young children.

    Since the late 1990s, some experiments have found no effects at the doses of BPA that people are exposed to, and others have suggested that the chemical mimics estrogen, blocks testosterone and harms lab animals at low doses. Plastics industry representatives say the trace amounts that migrate from some products pose no danger and are far below safety thresholds set by the EPA and other agencies.

    In the new report, to be published online in Environmental Health Perspectives on Thursday, scientists Frederick vom Saal and Claude Hughes say that as of December, 115 studies have been published examining low doses of the chemical, and 94 of them found harmful effects.

    In an interview Tuesday, Vom Saal, a reproductive biologist at University of Missouri in Columbia, said there is now an "overwhelming weight of evidence" that the plastics compound is harmful.

    "This is a snowball running down a hill, where the evidence is accumulating at a faster and faster rate," Vom Saal said.

    "You can't open a scientific journal related to sex hormones and not read an article that would just floor you about this chemical…. The chemical industry's position that this is a weak chemical has been proven totally false. This is a phenomenally potent chemical as a sex hormone."



    http://www.worldandi.com/public/2001/October/ee.html

    Women who are on the pill ( or other hormoanal contraception ) have a lot lower level of estrogen due to the fact they are not ovualting and thier hormoanes are being artifically regulated to trick thier body into thinking it is already pregnant.

    So yes I would there that there is somthing to the study.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    derek27 wrote: »
    I sincerely doubt they have more oestrogen than women, but there is a concern at present about the levels of oestrogen mimicking chemicals getting into the irish food chain.


    With that and all the cocaine on the bank-notes, we'll all become transgender coke-heads! Should be some freakshow in a few years time.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    More men in Ireland have feminine traits in Ireland than 15 years ago.

    I laughed my tits of when I read that. :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭jdivision


    Alcohol playing a part


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