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Players Living On Past Reputations.

  • 11-02-2008 11:56PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭


    Alot of them around but Owen has to be the worst

    Can't believe what a poor player he is now, of course he thinks hes great, Captain of Newcastle and all....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Paul Robinson, a undoubted star for Leeds.
    Goes on to be No.1 for England and Spurs, but this year has been a disaster. He is still a big name player though.

    Awaits someone include Harry Kewell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Be fair he has had lots of injuries. i.e Michael Owen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    In fairness to Owen, he's scored 2 perfectly good goals against Man Utd and Boro which were disallowed. We could be seeing a much more confident player if they weren't taken away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    Owen is still quality, he just needs to avoid those injuries

    anyway Andrei Shevchenko :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    i think its harsh on owen, he has had some awful injuries, but when hes playing he scores goals no matter where he goes......?!?

    Harry Kewell has had his fair share of injuries but when he is playing the last few seasons he has been awful!
    Id put John Arne Riise in same boat also, he has been very poor the last season and a half, living on past reputation in his own head as he launches pointless shots almost every week living on glories of past great goals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    anyway Andrei Shevchenko :)

    definatley, he has been sh!te since he moved to chelski! so horribly over rated!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Nicky Butt and Alan Smith. If they hadn't of played for United they'd be nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Bit harsh. Nicky Butt is still a good player. Sure Pele even picked him out as Englands best player a few years ago, and he's like, Pele for crying out loud!

    John O'Shea - One amazing season, destined for great things........and then nothing.

    Andriy Shevchenko - Has really tarnished his career with a move to Chelsea. Fair play to him for trying it out in a new league, but he should not still be at that club.

    Robbie Fowler - Not saying it cos I dislike the chap - I'll be the first to say that in his heyday, he was one of the best players to play in the premiership. Injuries did him in a bit, but at Leeds and Man City, and his later spell at Pool he was not an effecitve player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Robbie Fowler - Not saying it cos I dislike the chap - I'll be the first to say that in his heyday, he was one of the best players to play in the premiership. Injuries did him in a bit, but at Leeds and Man City, and his later spell at Pool he was not an effecitve player.

    My turn to disagree -

    2001–2003 Leeds United 29 games, 14 goals
    2003–2006 Manchester City 79 games, 21 goals

    108 games and 35 goals. That's a goal every 3.08 games. Hardly disgraceful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,537 ✭✭✭joe123


    Archimedes wrote: »

    Robbie Fowler - Not saying it cos I dislike the chap - I'll be the first to say that in his heyday, he was one of the best players to play in the premiership. Injuries did him in a bit, but at Leeds and Man City, and his later spell at Pool he was not an effecitve player.

    Hel always be "god" in our eyes :rolleyes:


    Owen still looks a good player just needs some confidence.

    Id say Harry Kewell, Shevchenko, Alan Smith...they are what spring to mind. Im sure there are loads others.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,402 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    joe123 wrote: »
    Hel always be "god" in our eyes

    I'll always remember the day I got to ring my brother (Liverpool fan) and tell him that God now wears white. He was disgusted, but I was delighted. It was a shame he had so many injuries during his time at Elland Road, I would have loved to have seen what he could really have done when fully fit. that said, his record wasn't too shabby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭themont85


    Luis Figo- best player in the world for a couple of years but has shown very little since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    Del Piero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Morf wrote: »
    Del Piero

    Again I disagree.

    In the eight seasons before 2001 he scored 68 goals in 190 games in Serie A. Goals/game ratio of 2.8.

    In the six and a half seasons so far after 2001 he has scored 95 goals in 195 games up until January 23 this year. Goals/game ratio of 2.05.


    If anything he's gotten better and more consistent.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Ryan Giggs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭semibluff


    ryan giggs was voted player of the month for december, by the supporters during a very succesful period for man u - so it proves he still has it

    boa morte - whatever name he has left

    D Bent
    K dyer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    semibluff wrote: »
    ryan giggs was voted player of the month for december, by the supporters during a very succesful period for man u - so it proves he still has it
    And i think sometimes he is getting these awards just for being Giggs. Seriously, if we had just signed him we'd be thinking we had just wasted some money. Haven't seen Giggs be consistently good for a long time now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Damien Duff.

    Hasn't played well for Ireland for a few years now, yet people still include him in the "world class" players for Ireland list, along with Shay Given.

    Duff is living off a decent enough showing at WC2002 (game of the tournament place and all) and a couple of medals with Chelsea.

    He's constantly injured, and imo, is living off that WC performance among Irish people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Laurent Robert


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Nicky Butt is still a good player........

    Robbie Fowler - Not saying it cos I dislike the chap - I'll be the first to say that in his heyday, he was one of the best players to play in the premiership. Injuries did him in a bit, but at Leeds and Man City, and his later spell at Pool he was not an effecitve player.

    Nicky Butt is lucky Newcastle are about.

    Regarding Fowler, I would hardly call playing for a mid table championship team 'living on past reputations'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Robbie Keane. Current Ireland career based entirely on good club form mixed with memories of the good old days with Ireland and faint hopes he will bring it back.

    Its been 3 odd years since I saw him play a blinder in a green jersey.

    Well, bar friendlies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭flanzer


    Most of the Newcastle team. Viduka, Owen, Butt, Smith, Duffers (to some respect. I think Newcastle need to give him a good kick in the ar$e) Though I am hopeful there 2/3 more years of magic in him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    flanzer wrote: »
    Though I am hopeful there 2/3 more years of magic in him
    What?

    In Duff?

    He hasn't been "magic" in two or three years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Dubit10


    Ryan giggs,harry kewell,shevcenko,sol cambell,beckham.Think the micheal owen comments are wide of the mark.He is still a great finisher although he has had some terrible injuries and i admit has lost a little pace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    Dubit10 wrote: »
    Ryan giggs,harry kewell,shevcenko,sol cambell,beckham.Think the micheal owen comments are wide of the mark.He is still a great finisher although he has had some terrible injuries and i admit has lost a little pace.

    Think sol campbell is a bit of a harsh call, true he should not be in the england team, but hes growing old quite gracefully with pompey and is still pretty decent!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,714 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Sol Campell is still the business tbh.

    I think Nicky Butt is the finest example of what people are looking for in this thread. There was an expectation that he would become a dominant force for a midtable / top six team after he left Utd. However, it turns out that the likes of Scholes or Keane can cover up for your shortcomings very nicely indeed. He has regressed very quickly since he left and, being entirely honest, he has too many games a season where he is a non entity.


    Kewell would not have served out the full length of his contract at Liverpool if it wasn't for the explosiveness of his years at Leeds. He should have been offloaded during 2005 - 2006 but Benitez clearly kept him around in the hope that he would come good again. He never has come close tbh.


    Fowler owes nothing to no - one. He never reached the peaks he enjoyed during the first spell at Liverpool during his time at Leeds, City or during the second coming. But that isn't to say that he didn't always apply himself; that he didn't maintain a decent goalscoring record; that he wasn't an asset to those teams. He is currently playing at an appropriate level.


    Other players worth mentioning are the likes of:

    Ronaldinhio
    Ronaldo
    Adriano

    Are they really as advertised these days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,121 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    shane86 wrote: »
    Robbie Keane. Current Ireland career based entirely on good club form mixed with memories of the good old days with Ireland and faint hopes he will bring it back.

    Its been 3 odd years since I saw him play a blinder in a green jersey.

    Well, bar friendlies.

    Keane deserves his place in the Ireland squad based on league performances.

    Without Keane in our team where do you see the goals coming from?

    He creates goals too you know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Players Living On Past Reputations

    You could almost make an XI with Newcastle players alone. What a joke of a club.

    Disagree with the Keane nominations he's a better player now than he has ever been. Fair enough he's not doing the business for Ireland atm but thats more to do with everything around him (both on and off the pitch).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,585 ✭✭✭patmac


    Steven Carr, how he still getting a game at Newcastle is beyond me, the best thing he has done in the last 3 years was International retirement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Personally I think Shevchenko is starting to show signs he is adjusting to the premiership and Chelsea way.


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