AH getting too strict

MIN2511

Very true, people are being banned and cautioned for comments.
Are we turning AH into PI?????

Boston

Yes, yes we are.

estebancambias

I was banned for saying poor people are generally scumbags; AH has always been ''strict'' well at least in the past year. If you want a non strict forum go for the Atheist forum.....

Dudess

You got it the wrong way round: scumbags are generally poor. And you KNOW what you said was offensive and trollish, there's no way you can argue it wasn't.

OP, maybe it's not that AH is getting stricter, maybe it's more that AH posters are getting nastier and more obnoxious...

AARRRGH

After Hours used to be a lot more strict. I once got banned for something someone else said! That used to be acceptable mod behavior.

IMO Dudess is being fair.

Saying women deserve to be degraded if they're a bit "slutty" should be unacceptable talk.

Iago

Threads on Sex or Sexuality
- There is a seperate forum to discuss this now, this forum requires a subscription for access. Any threads on these topics will be locked on sight. Repeat offenders will be banned

I've posted this on the thread in question in AH. In my opinion
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055233712

and possibly

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055234191

should both be locked and deleted from the after hours forum. As a public forum it's open to being viewed by younger viewers and users of boards, and the whole point of the above element of the charter was to prevent this.

Ruu_Old

It is tough to get the balance right sometimes but the mods only step in when a post has been reported by others most of the time.

S&S is for mostly serious chat so I wouldn't have moved them.

estebancambias

Dudess wrote: »

You got it the wrong way round: scumbags are generally poor. And you KNOW what you said was offensive and trollish, there's no way you can argue it wasn't.

OP, maybe it's not that AH is getting stricter, maybe it's more that AH posters are getting nastier and more obnoxious...

If someone is using Boards, I very much doubt they could find it offensive to be honest. My logic is you could walk through my area without being hassled, you walk through the working-class estate next to mine and there is a good chance someone will start on you.

Red Hand

Duddess and Terry do a good job.


Incidently, I think they'd make a lovely couple. The eventual kids could mod AH too!:p

AARRRGH

Should all threads with sexual content be closed? If they were, people would be going crazy saying the mods are way too strict.

So the mods allow threads with some sexual chat, and then certain people take the piss.

Posting on boards.ie is like shouting in public - you're telling the world your opinion on things.

Do you honestly think it's acceptable to tell the world the hilarious story of how you degraded a girl? This is scumbag behaviour and should not be tolerated or, ffs, applauded like so many boards.ie users seem to be doing.

estebancambias

I agree DublinDude, the mods do a good job. Having read that thread some of the comments were a joke.

Boston

estebancambias wrote: »

If someone is using Boards, I very much doubt they could find it offensive to be honest. My logic is you could walk through my area without being hassled, you walk through the working-class estate next to mine and there is a good chance someone will start on you.

I find you offensive.

Sherifu

I don't know about moving the thread to S&S, it was light hearted and entertaining. But i'm glad they split out all the BS that was going on in it to another thread. Take that argument to humanities as far as i'm concerned. The warning given was deserved.
The AH mods are doing a good job.

Karl Hungus

MIN2511 wrote: »

Very true, people are being banned and cautioned for comments.

Hang on, banned and cautioned "For comments"? Is there a new rule in AH that says "No comments under any circumstances"? Is there a new infraction for "Posting a comment"? :rolleyes:

MIN2511

I read the thread and replies twice just so I made sure I was reading properly, after Mairt posted the discussion changed and replies were a tad bit too serious for AH. The thread was to take the piss, he posted, and you don't like his reply-get on with it! Let’s not turn it into a debate, we all know Mairt (bouncer, martial arts, a bit racists e.t.c.) Was that a shocking reply from him? I don't think so, I am not surprised! That said Dudess and Dublindude kept ranting about morals e.t.c.
We are different individuals and we have different views on life, as long as we don’t impose it on others there shouldn’t be a problem!

estebancambias

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Hang on, banned and cautioned "For comments"? Is there a new rule in AH that says "No comments under any circumstances"? Is there a new infraction for "Posting a comment"? :rolleyes:

The Hungus wit is out in full force today, isn't it?

AARRRGH

Yes the problem is Mairt IS enforcing his morals on others. He physically degraded a girl.

Dudess and I are saying that isn't acceptable. We are not physically forcing anyone to do anything.

Boston

He's physically degrading someone through the Internet on after hours? He didn't force that girl to do anything. I call moral high horse on this one. People have meaningless casual sex with people they don't respect or know all the time.

MIN2511

The story could be a tale for all you know(i am not choosing sides), if it's not then it's his story and experience. And when DaveMg commented a Mod warned him e.t.c
jeez, you would think we were in prep school/work/boarding school.

AARRRGH

Boston wrote: »

He didn't force that girl to do anything. I call moral high horse on this one.

Have you read his post?

He forced the girl (she had no choice) into doing a sex show in front of a group of guys.

Boston

Did you read the post? I see no mention of physically forcing anyone to do anything.

AARRRGH

She did not choose to participate in the sex show. She was not given the option to say no.

You don't have to physically hold someone down to force them to do it. She was forced into the act by lack of choice.

arybvtcw0eolkf

dublindude wrote: »

Yes the problem is Mairt IS enforcing his morals on others. He physically degraded a girl.

Dudess and I are saying that isn't acceptable. We are not physically forcing anyone to do anything.

Now the thread doesn't bother me, neither do Dudess's comments. I

But suggesting that I forcefully done anything physical to a girl is something I take extrem exception to and I'd appricate you either clearing that up or retracting the statement.

Personally I think some people chose to take offence in that thread, and yes Dudess did and I think that clouded her judgement as a Mod. It wasn't only me she turned on, other's got it too (disposing of condom's and respecting other people's property).

The threads IMO should be locked or deleted, too many people are going to fall out with each other. Its not worth it guys.

arybvtcw0eolkf

dublindude wrote: »

She did not choose to participate in the sex show. She was not given the option to say no.

You don't have to physically hold someone down to force them to do it. She was forced into the act by lack of choice.

LOL, your another one who loves to take things out of context.

Re-read the bloody thing, some 'licence' was taken with the story :rolleyes:

annie19

Hry, who decides what is not acceptable??? i got banned for saying somethig general about teachers!!!!!!:rolleyes:

AARRRGH

Mairt wrote: »

But suggesting that I forcefully done anything physical to a girl is something I take extrem exception to and I'd appricate you either clearing that up or retracting the statement.

Did you ask the girl before you forced her to participate in the sex show?

If you did, I apologise, but your original post never stated anything close to that.

Mairt wrote: »

The threads IMO should be locked or deleted, too many people are going to fall out with each other. Its not worth it guys.

I agree.

Mairt wrote: »

Re-read the bloody thing, some 'licence' was taken with the story :rolleyes:

You should have mentioned that initially!

Boston

dublindude wrote: »

Did you ask the girl before you forced her to participate in the sex show?

If you did, I apologise, but your original post never stated anything close to that.

Thats what we call a loaded question. Forcing someone to perform a sexual act is a crime. You're making criminal accusations in this thread. I suggest you go lie down for a while.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Well the thread has went from a light hearted topic to bullying.

I feel now that no matter what I say I'll be bullied.

I'd like to leave it now guys.

AARRRGH

I don't think Mairt sexually assaulted the girl (I have never said that) so please don't put words in my mouth. I said she did not agree to participate in the sex show. I have no idea if that's legal or illegal. It's certainly wrong.

Mairt wrote:

I'd like to leave it now guys.

OK. I've said all I can say on the matter anyway

Dudess

MIN2511 wrote: »

The thread was to take the piss

Yeah, and then people started posting about what horrible things they did in order to get their hole and people act as if it's normal when they know it's not but they'll look uncool if they say that, so I pointed it out. Threads go off on a tangent like that all the time. Someone started a thread "what criminal activities did you get up to when you were a kid" a few months ago and people were posting appalling stuff and others were calling them scumbags etc, but it's ok to be inconsiderate and even to damage property in this case because you're getting to have sex... :rolleyes:

Dudess and Dublindude kept ranting about morals e.t.c

Actually no, I never once mentioned morals. I don't think sex and morality should have anything to do with each other. It's not the sex in this case, it's the disregarding of people's property. And yes, the sex between young children I find problematic too, but that's because it is really sad and I'm finding it's becoming too normalised - this loss of innocence so early.

Boston wrote: »

People have meaningless casual sex with people they don't respect or know all the time.

Course they do - lots of us have. But we don't secretly show it to a bunch of mates for the laugh. And we don't refer to those people in a derogatory, nasty manner afterwards. In particular, we don't feel disgust towards them for doing something which we gladly complied with.

Boston

I never said sexual assault.

Dord

Boston wrote: »

I find you offensive.

Same here. If I had my way you'd be site banned a long time ago. Unfortunately I don't and it's up to the mods/admins.

You seem like a stuck up little p***k though! :mad:


BTW this was directed at estebancannabis, just so you don't think i'm dissin' you Boston.

fits

I think its about time something was done about the amount of misogynistic crap thats posted in after hours.
There are some really terrible attitudes towards women and sex from some of the posters.

AARRRGH

The problem is generally with Irish women.

If a Polish girl gave a lad a blowjob in the toilets after 10 minutes, she'd probably be considered deadly.

Dudess

fits wrote: »

I think its about time something was done about the amount of misogynistic crap thats posted in after hours.
There are some really terrible attitudes towards women and sex from some of the posters.

I'm trying to do something about this by highlighting it, but apparently I'm on my moral high horse etc...

estebancambias

Joe Robot wrote: »

Same here. If I had my way you'd be site banned a long time ago. Unfortunately I don't and it's up to the mods/admins.

You seem like a stuck up little p***k though! :mad:


BTW this was directed at estebancannabis, just so you don't think i'm dissin' you Boston.

I'm not stuck up at all. Also, I don't know you. I find being called a prick far more offensive than any generic comments I made.

Also I could have been site banned along time ago, frankly since September I have done nothing which even warrants a ban.

fits

Dudess wrote: »

I'm trying to do something about this by highlighting it, but apparently I'm on my moral high horse etc...

I know you are. Its not going to be popular but you're in the right.

Jackz

She aint right. Young girls this, cosmo the other, she is crazy. The bra burning is done and dusted each person earns respect on merit.

Boston

Dudess wrote: »

I'm trying to do something about this by highlighting it, but apparently I'm on my moral high horse etc...

Should have chosen your battles more carefully, defending the honour of someone who has no self respect was always going to be a loosing battle.

estebancambias: Grown ups are talking, time for bed time.

Dudess

You just spend most of your days gleefully pouncing on people to bitch at on Feedback don't you? You're no different to esteban really.
Are you in a terribly unhappy place that you feel you must make yourself feel better by posting snide remarks at people ALL THE TIME?

Jackz wrote: »

She aint right. Young girls this, cosmo the other, she is crazy. The bra burning is done and dusted each person earns respect on merit.

Jackz, read through my posts before calling me crazy. There is certain crap that's just accepted. No harm in trying to deconstruct what's perceived as the norm.

Boston

Getting personal now I see. I'm sorry, your right you're the victim here, in fact everyone is the victim, now we're all happy.

You're on a moral high horse, pointing the finger at other people telling them how they should treat others, and its not the first time.

fits

Jackz wrote: »

She aint right. Young girls this, cosmo the other, she is crazy. The bra burning is done and dusted each person earns respect on merit.

In this particular case, I believe she is in the right. This is nothing to do with bra burning, its to do with antiquated attitudes towards women (from some) in after hours.
I personally am sick of the 'all women are bitcthes', 'irish women are stuck up', 'irish women are too slutty/ugly/frigid', 'foreign women are better', 'girls who have sex drives are sluts' threads.... and a lot of people actually seem to believe what they are posting.

Dudess

Boston, I have an opinion - we all have. It's rich that you take exception to me getting personal. I wasn't saying I'm a victim either - more that certain posters are too pigheaded to admit certain stuff they do is inconsiderate to others so they twist things in order to make it look like I'm the ogre.
fits: What's really disappointing is how these attitudes contradict each other. I'm probably considered a prude now because I don't consider it right for 13-year-olds to be shagging in a playground, but I actually have a very liberal attitude to sex and do what the fukk I want as long as it doesn't infringe on others (I'm an adult though) so the same people would probably consider me a slut in a different thread...

Boston

Dudess wrote: »

Boston, I have an opinion - we all have. It's rich that you take exception to me getting personal.

How so? Have I got personal with you, have I insinuated anything about your personal life or the manner in which you conduct yourself on the site, no. Why is it you feel its ok for you to do so with me. This issue is obviously personal to you, as I see no other reason why you would bring up your sexual nature.

Try being semi unbiased and objective.

Dudess

I mean it's rich because I've seen you get personal with other users. Constantly.

Nevyn

Mairt wrote: »

Now the thread doesn't bother me, neither do Dudess's comments. I

But suggesting that I forcefully done anything physical to a girl is something I take extrem exception to and I'd appricate you either clearing that up or retracting the statement.

Personally I think some people chose to take offence in that thread, and yes Dudess did and I think that clouded her judgement as a Mod. It wasn't only me she turned on, other's got it too (disposing of condom's and respecting other people's property).

The threads IMO should be locked or deleted, too many people are going to fall out with each other. Its not worth it guys.

IF the girl was did not give informed consent and was not given the option of doing so and was not made aware of other people viewing until it was too late then yes I would think that she and her right to refuse and her right to privacy during a sexual act were violated and that was a nasty stunt to pull on any one.

To me the gender of the people involved does not matter, it could have been a guy blowing a guy or a guy giving oral to a girl and then had the persons friends arrive to have a look, lack of informed consent is wrong end of it shows lack of consideration and respect.

Boston

Dudess wrote: »

I mean it's rich because I've seen you get personal with other users. Constantly.

I fail to see how that entitles you to get personal with me. If I'm wrong you're also wrong. Either way I've demonstrated a level of respect towards yourself which you have not returned.

Dudess

Fair enough. I apologise.

Boston

accepted.

Nevyn

fits wrote: »

I think its about time something was done about the amount of misogynistic crap thats posted in after hours.
There are some really terrible attitudes towards women and sex from some of the posters.

Yep there is, I think a lot of is a reaction to the post girl powar ladette shíte in the late 90s and a lot of angry young men out there.

RuggieBear

i love sociology.:)

tbh i saw much worse things in the Bective when I was 16.