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Large Hadron Collider

  • 09-02-2008 9:13pm
    #1
    MooseJam
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    The Large Hadron Collider - will it produce totally new particles - particles that don't or haven't existed before because the energies involved don't exist in nature ?


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  • #2
    Spear
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    MooseJam wrote: »
    The Large Hadron Collider - will it produce totally new particles - particles that don't or haven't existed before because the energies involved don't exist in nature ?

    No.


  • #3
    marco_polo
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    MooseJam wrote: »
    The Large Hadron Collider - will it produce totally new particles - particles that don't or haven't existed before because the energies involved don't exist in nature ?

    I am no physics expert just an interested layman :), but I believe that the hope is to discover theoretical particles such as the Higgs boson that have not been observed by Science before. But the fact that they have not been observed does not automatically imply non existence.


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    seamus
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    Or will it result in the end of all existence?

    Actually, I'm kind of hoping that it'll bring us a giant leap closer to microsingularities and zero-point energy, but then I'm the eternal optimist.


  • #5
    monkeyfudge
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    New Scientist this week has an article suggesting that it could create wormholes and this would mean that 2008 would be year zero for time travel as it be the earliest point in human history that you could travel back to.

    Certainly a fun read.


  • #6
    marco_polo
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    seamus wrote: »
    Or will it result in the end of all existence?

    Actually, I'm kind of hoping that it'll bring us a giant leap closer to microsingularities and zero-point penergy, but then I'm the eternal otimist.

    Tis grand, all them pesky mini black holes will feck off again straight away apparently. ;)

    I will very interested to see what comes out of there over the next few years.


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  • #7
    ZorbaTehZ
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    To quote Son Goku from this thread:
    Son Goku wrote:
    CERN's collision energies will never exceed the energies of muon collisions on top of snow capped mountains. Those collisions have been running ever since the Earth formed and nothing has ever happened.


  • #8
    Son Goku
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    MooseJam wrote: »
    The Large Hadron Collider - will it produce totally new particles - particles that don't or haven't existed before because the energies involved don't exist in nature ?
    It is hoped that it will produce particles that haven't existed for a long time in this neck of the woods, because our local environment has been too cold for them to exist for billions of years.


  • #9
    marco_polo
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    Son Goku wrote: »
    It is hoped that it will produce particles that haven't existed for a long time in this neck of the woods, because our local environment has been too cold for them to exist for billions of years.

    Is it thought that these particles could still exist in other less hospitable parts of the universe (black holes and other such nasty places :) ), or that they could only have existed in conditions such as those found in the aftermath of the big bang?


  • #10
    Son Goku
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    marco_polo wrote: »
    Is it thought that these particles could still exist in other less hospitable parts of the universe (black holes and other such nasty places :) ), or that they could only have existed in conditions such as those found in the aftermath of the big bang?
    They would still exist occasionally in very violent regions of the universe. There are places where energies get up to 100 million times greater than the LHC, so there's extremely wierd stuff going on in these cosmic processes. This is why some have argued that we should build a detector in space, because it may be our only real chance of gathering information about these super-high energy processes.


  • #11
    davej
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    Interesting article: looks like the physicists get to eat French patisserie cakes and booze from the afternoon onwards every day.

    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article3403949.ece

    davej


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  • #12
    great unwashed
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    marco_polo wrote: »
    I am no physics expert just an interested layman :), but I believe that the hope is to discover theoretical particles such as the Higgs boson that have not been observed by Science before. But the fact that they have not been observed does not automatically imply non existence.
    Interested layman here too.

    There are a number of youtube videos on the 'LHC', the Higgs Boson and so on and in one of them they were saying that there may be something called the 'Higgs Field' which is responsible for making matter material. What does this mean? I can only picture it like this: a ping-pong ball, a tennis ball and a bowling ball are all falling at the same speed (in a vacuum). You have no real decent idea of the weight or mass of any of them until they all hit the ground. This Higgs Field is the ground and a Higgs Boson is evidence of the ground. :confused:

    And it might not even exist. Anyone know anything?


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