Tom McGuirk

Tim Robbins · 08-02-2008 11:21am #1

Just listening to Tom McGuirk on Gerry Ryan. Wow, what a woeful understanding of Rugby.

jacko · 08-02-2008 11:39am

Whats even more woeful is that you'd actually listen to Gerry Ryan. The guy has to be the biggest a$$hole on radio.

But yea you're right, McGuirk's understanding of the game is dubious

Tim Robbins · 08-02-2008 11:41am

jacko wrote: »

Whats even more woeful is that you'd actually listen to Gerry Ryan. The guy has to be the biggest a$$hole on radio.

But yea you're right, McGuirk's understanding of the game is dubious

:-) Newstalk has too many ads.

buck65 · 08-02-2008 12:18pm

Gerry Ryan is the biggest nob this side of ......Nobworth

chicoben · 08-02-2008 1:33pm

Tom McGuirk is a hero! He gets Popey, hooky and O' Shea all riled up before during and after matches. He asks them really odd questions and all.

JWAD · 08-02-2008 3:05pm

chicoben wrote: »

Tom McGuirk is a hero! He gets Popey, hooky and O' Shea all riled up before during and after matches. He asks them really odd questions and all.

He's as bad a rugby pundit as he is a political commentator in the Biz post.
Having him as a rugby expert is a time-start joke.

As for his anchoring, the p***k never lets anyone finish. As well as that, his teeth look like he's chewing a pile of yellow tictacs.

Timothy Bryce · 08-02-2008 8:55pm

JWAD wrote: »

He's as bad a rugby pundit as he is a political commentator in the Biz post.
Having him as a rugby expert is a time-start joke.

As for his anchoring, the p***k never lets anyone finish. As well as that, his teeth look like he's chewing a pile of yellow tictacs.

Yes but on the up-side he's got good swimmers. He has an utter litter of chizzlers knocking around

08-02-2008 10:52pm

It seems to be RTÉs formula for sports punditry.

A thicko and 2 or more pundits. The thickos job is to lob stupid or controversal questions or statements to rile the pundits up.

Shan75 · 09-02-2008 12:26am

McGurk is the biggest waste of license payers money on RTE.He is a disgrace as a presenter because he never allows the panel to finish what they are trying to say.This is especially so when they are trying to give decent and informed analysis or opinion.When they are laughing and joking he doesn't seem as inclined to cut them off.If he is not interested in the rugby views of the studio "experts" he should not bother asking them questions.Why he hasn't been sacked before now is beyond me.I didn't realise that a necessary trait of an RTE presenter was to be an ignoramus.

berliner · 09-02-2008 12:40am

Tom McGuirk is a legend.I love the coverage RTE give rugby.Remember the awful coverage of the world cup on TV3 ...makes you appreciate rte and McGuirk.

gcgirl · 09-02-2008 12:44am

and to think this guy use to give Miriam O'Callaghan one? did she make him wear a paper bag over his head!:D

il gatto · 09-02-2008 5:21am

RTE's format, including two ad breaks at half time, hardly makes for good punditry. It's a stupid way to make money, because most people switch to BBC during the ads. McGurk isn't there to analyse anything. he's the "everyman" straight guy who asks the questions. He's a fan, but he never tries to be the expert.
Much worse is George Hamilton commentating. He's sh1te. He comes across as someone with only the most passing interest in the game. He consistantly misinterprates what's happening and uses phrases associated with soccer. He even makes Royle Nugent sound good.

JWAD · 09-02-2008 11:41am

il gatto wrote: »

cGurk isn't there to analyse anything. he's the "everyman" straight guy who asks the questions. He's a fan, but he never tries to be the expert

Thats why he's on TV on another programme opining that professionalism in the sport is one of the reasons Ireland struggle and is on the Gerry Ryan show as a rugby pundit then?

He's a ignorant buttnugget. Any panel anchor who ends a show with 'you know where you can stick your chariots' is no better than the wally standing at Croke Park in a Celtic soccer outfit saying 'No To Foreign Games'

aidan24326 · 09-02-2008 4:48pm

berliner wrote: »

Remember the awful coverage of the world cup on TV3 ...makes you appreciate rte and McGuirk.

Well this is it, we have to be thankful for small mercies. The RTE coverage isn't perfect but god forbid that TV3 ever get the rights to it. Pope is good and Hook is entertaining, McGurk is only there to play the Bill O'Herlihy 'man on the street role'.

IT Loser · 09-02-2008 5:19pm

ronoc wrote: »

It seems to be RTÉs formula for sports punditry.

A thicko and 2 or more pundits. The thickos job is to lob stupid or controversal questions or statements to rile the pundits up.

Yep. Did you hear Darragh Maloney during the boxing?? My God...what a doofus.

aidan24326 · 09-02-2008 5:34pm

IT Loser wrote: »

Yep. Did you hear Darragh Maloney during the boxing?? My God...what a doofus.

To be fair how many people are experts on boxing? He was probably asked to do it and could hardly say no, they pay his wages after all. He's a decent commentator on soccer and gaa.

IT Loser · 09-02-2008 5:40pm

aidan24326 wrote: »

To be fair how many people are experts on boxing? He was probably asked to do it and could hardly say no, they pay his wages after all. He's a decent commentator on soccer and gaa.

No he isn't he ****e on them too. He's even worse on the boxing. And as for Peter Collins........:eek::eek::mad:

IT Loser · 09-02-2008 6:12pm

Hookie insist that the truck be backed up!

Orizio · 09-02-2008 6:33pm

No I agree. Really, the only people who should be allowed analyse sport are ie Boards posters.

Everyone else is stupid, ugly or both.

EdgarAllenPoo · 09-02-2008 9:37pm

Well In McGuirk's case that's true, the man is a clueless infuriating tool.

zuutroy · 09-02-2008 9:45pm

So in summary, everyone hates everyone. Having a setup like RTE for sport is so much better than the emotionless 'yes-men' that appear on every channel. They may be in your opinion talking out their arses, but at least they're voicing an opinion instead of just recounting what happened ala Shearer, Lineker and the rest of the drones from Sky, TV3 and Setanta

EdgarAllenPoo · 09-02-2008 10:10pm

An opinion is grand if you know what you're talking about which McGuirk doesn't most of the time and he cuts across people who do know what they're talking about to make stupid comments designed to get a raise out of people.

Shan75 · 10-02-2008 12:29am

GDM wrote: »

An opinion is grand if you know what you're talking about which McGuirk doesn't most of the time and he cuts across people who do know what they're talking about to make stupid comments designed to get a raise out of people.

Spot on.McGurk's only interest is in seeing how much he can get Hook to lose the plot.This is pretty sad.With a decent presenter it would be much better watching Hook and Pope and Conor O'Shea as they could actually get a
chance to finish their points as sometimes the thrust of what they're saying is lost due to that incompetent clown.Even with him in attendance though it's better than having to endure the insufferably boring Guscott or the ridiculous ramblings of Jonathan Davies or the bland Inverdale.Even Keith Wood at times seems shorn of his personality.Maybe they take it off you in the morning and give it back after you leave.

Something that shows RTE's thinking is the fact that George Hamilton is the top paid commentator.This is nothing short of a sick joke.He is a bad soccer commentator.He is a downright disgrace as a rugby one.Before he got the job with RTE I doubt he'd even seen a rugby ball.Mind you, what alternative commentators have RTE got?

bleg · 10-02-2008 12:49am

in fairness if mcgurk didn't cut across hook he's keep talking the whole time

Brockagh · 10-02-2008 10:26am

Has anyone mentioned Ken Early? He's just a smug student who copies his ideas from the Guardian.

McGuirk is supposed to be a nasty piece of work in real life too.

rockman15 · 10-02-2008 12:53pm

i got to be honest...im living aborad and the commentary is absolutly ****e in italy....they only talk about 3 players every game........cream themselves over johnny wilkinson.......no tactical analysis.....they break every 3 mins for an ad........id give anything to be back home for Hooky and his rants.....they make half time entertaining. In fairness to the BBC lads, they are probablly told to behave themselves and not give out about stuff thats really contraversial. God forbid the poor players heard something they didnt like from Guscott and played ****e....again!

Perhaps some kind of Super Commentary Panel could be made??? Who would you pick for it????

komodosp · 10-02-2008 1:30pm

I didn't hear the interview on Gerry Ryan, but if he was supposed to be there giving and intimate analisys of the game, then they got the wrong guy on (or couldn't convince a real rugby expert to come on) and the fault is with 2FM, not Tom McGuirk... His job isn't to analyse the game... he's like Bill O'Herlihy, his job is just to keep the pundits talking, and IMHO does a decent job of it... he only needs to have a basic understanding of the ins and outs of the game so he can ask about them.

Tim Robbins · 11-02-2008 11:03am

komodosp wrote: »

I didn't hear the interview on Gerry Ryan, but if he was supposed to be there giving and intimate analisys of the game, then they got the wrong guy on (or couldn't convince a real rugby expert to come on) and the fault is with 2FM, not Tom McGuirk... His job isn't to analyse the game... he's like Bill O'Herlihy, his job is just to keep the pundits talking, and IMHO does a decent job of it... he only needs to have a basic understanding of the ins and outs of the game so he can ask about them.

I like Emmet Byrne on Setanta. Easily the best pundit imo. For humour I think Trevor Brennan is well ahead of George Hook, although the two of them would be a dream ticket.

gcgirl · 11-02-2008 9:57pm

Tim Robbins wrote: »

I like Emmet Byrne on Setanta. Easily the best pundit imo. For humour I think Trevor Brennan is well ahead of George Hook, although the two of them would be a dream ticket.

somehow i think Trevor and George would end up killing one another!

Latchy · 11-02-2008 10:04pm

Mcguirk ...... was he the guy who once interviewd Shirly Mclaine on rte at some ungodly hr and it was obious that she hadn't a clue what he was on about

Saw him once in a dublin pub staring into space for about an hr

JWAD · 12-02-2008 9:36am

Tim Robbins wrote: »

I like Emmet Byrne on Setanta. Easily the best pundit imo. For humour I think Trevor Brennan is well ahead of George Hook, although the two of them would be a dream ticket.

Emmet Byrne just repeats what the previous pundit says and adds a sentence. Hardly original.
As for Trev over Hook, well at least Trev has played the game at the highest level. Hook has done nothing but grow chins and hurl flowery adjectives about on screen.

Tim Robbins · 12-02-2008 9:55am

JWAD wrote: »

Emmet Byrne just repeats what the previous pundit says and adds a sentence. Hardly original.

No way. He makes the most technical comments, especially about front row, lineouts etc. I've never learnt anything about Rugby from any pundit recently other than him.

redved · 12-02-2008 10:57am

Liam Toland always talks a lot of sense on Setanta. good knowledge of the game. Works well with Emmet Byrne

Tim Robbins · 12-02-2008 3:12pm

redved wrote: »

Liam Toland always talks a lot of sense on Setanta. good knowledge of the game. Works well with Emmet Byrne

I think he has a narrow view of Rugby. Thinks Rugby is only about working through short, simple phases. I personally have an aversion to that type of rugby.

Podge_irl · 12-02-2008 7:56pm

I think Emmet Byrne is a fantastic pundit. Doesn't over-simplify things and seems to have a very good knowledge of multiple aspects of the game (and not just front row stuff).

Junior · 12-02-2008 8:08pm

What do people make of Reggie now he's doing some work for Sky ?

Shan75 · 13-02-2008 12:03am

Junior wrote: »

What do people make of Reggie now he's doing some work for Sky ?

I think he's in the right place because he talks a lot of nonsense.

Crash · 13-02-2008 12:25am

Comes across much better than I would have expected him to, to be honest. cleans up well

JWAD · 13-02-2008 10:22am

Shan75 wrote: »

I think he's in the right place because he talks a lot of nonsense.

Give an example of this "nonsense" that Reggie Corrigan allegedly speaks.......

Shan75 · 13-02-2008 1:40pm

JWAD wrote: »

Give an example of this "nonsense" that Reggie Corrigan allegedly speaks.......

Giving man of the match to Joubert when Munster destroyed Clermont in Thomond Park.It appears he did this because he got slagged by the Munster crowd before the game.This is pretty sad if true.If that's not the reason then I'd have to question whether he bothered watching the game.

JWAD · 13-02-2008 5:07pm

Shan75 wrote: »

Giving man of the match to Joubert when Munster destroyed Clermont in Thomond Park.It appears he did this because he got slagged by the Munster crowd before the game.This is pretty sad if true.If that's not the reason then I'd have to question whether he bothered watching the game.

Thats it???

Riskymove · 13-02-2008 5:13pm

JWAD wrote: »

Thats it???

Well for me it was just a great sense of humour moment, he did it for the laugh to wind up a lot of Munster fans.....and he certainly succeeded!!;)

JWAD · 13-02-2008 9:10pm

Riskymove wrote: »

Well for me it was just a great sense of humour moment, he did it for the laugh to wind up a lot of Munster fans.....and he certainly succeeded!!;)

I was at that game surrounded by branch refs and everyone just broke balls laughing

Shan75 · 14-02-2008 12:34am

JWAD wrote: »

Thats it???

No that's not it.I can't be expected to remember all the rubbish he spouts as you usually tend to forget it soon afterwards.You asked for one example and I gave one but I suppose I could just as easily say to listen to his drivel and the whole lot is one big example.The next time I come across him I will try to post up one or two of his comments.

Tom McGuirk

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