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Pronunciation of the Dáil

  • 08-02-2008 10:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭


    I know there was a similar thread on the Gardai and not sure if this was
    done already but the pronunciation of the Dáil is getting on my goat.

    When I was in school, many moons ago, it was always pronounced "Dall"
    (like tall but with a d) but from hearing it on the news it seems to have added
    in a few letters and sounds like Doyle!

    Was I taught wrong all these years, or is it a D4-ing of the word!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It's the accent on the a. Dall or Doyle are acceptable. Depends on your twang. You should hear how they speak Irish in Tír Chonaill!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    I've only ever heard it pronounced as d-all?!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i would have said d(t)all.. but probably learned the 'doyle' one..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I seem to remember learning a bit about pronunciation in school...... Something to do with the i following the á.......

    I'd go with the 'Doyle'-sounding pronunciation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    it's the I after the A that gives it the twang, if it were spelled "dál" it would be pronounced "dawl", but because i's "dáIl" it's pronounced "daw-eel", or "doyle"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Somewhere between Dall and Doyle imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    zuutroy wrote: »
    Somewhere between Dall and Doyle imo

    I've always pronounced it D-all, and until recently only ever heard it pronounced
    D-all, but a while back a cousin who is in school came home giving out about
    some teacher he has who is from England and pronounces it "Doyle".
    He reckoned it was her English accent.

    But since then, I've noticed them pronounce it with an "o" sound on the
    news.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I had some guy with an English accent stop me a while back and ask for directions to what he though was a pub called The Doll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    What are the ettics on how to pronounce it.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    The BBC use the 'doyle' pronunciation. They haven't got a great track record in pronouncing Irish words so I've always gone with 'dall' myself.


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  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Em, yeah because of the I, it should be pronounced "Daw-ill". When pronounced quickly or in TV/Radio presenter-speak it comeas out as Doyle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    i've always said dawl.
    Piste wrote: »
    it's the I after the A that gives it the twang, if it were spelled "dál" it would be pronounced "dawl", but because i's "dáIl" it's pronounced "daw-eel", or "doyle"

    would there not be a fada on the i if this were the case? same thing is in tiomáin but we don't pronounce it tiom-oyne.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    Em, yeah because of the I, it should be pronounced "Daw-ill".

    No it shouldn't. The i is there to indicate a slender L sound. So it's pronounced broad D - aw - slender L.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    i've always said dawl.



    would there not be a fada on the i if this were the case? same thing is in tiomáin but we don't pronounce it tiom-oyne.

    We don't? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    I'd always been told 'Daaall'.

    But the christian brothers could have been wrong, they often were :(


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